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Brady would still have more rings. When Brady has had a full offense he has put up numbers better then Brees anyway, but they both do what their teams ask of them to and are magnificent QB's to watch. To me I do look at the post season and Brady has been masterful there. Brees has been good in his chances but truthfully I would bet Vikings this weekend over Brees and the Saints. If Brady was the QB it'd be NOLA. Also elements do matter Brady is good outside, inside, good weather, bad weather etc.. Brees does have a bit of regression outdoors. In the end it just is preference. Some Bills fans will never give Brady his due because he is on our rivals and will find any criticism they can against him the same way Falcon or Panther fans probably do with Brees and that is straight up preference/bias. Personally I think Peyton Manning while one of the all time greats is actually below Brady and Brees but many others would have him ahead of both. It really just comes down to what you value to decide your hierarchy. I do value post-season performance and stats together, others only one or the other. If you were asking straight up who is the best QB in terms of perfection to the position I would say Aaron Rodgers, but he only has one ring and I would argue his team/mgmt holds him back in that regard.

Haha I have friends who are Vikings fans and they are as tortured as us so I have sympathy.

In regards to most hated I probably will surprise a lot of people but I hate the Steelers more then anyone. I would rather the Bills only win one SB title and the Pats win five more in my lifetime if that meant the Steelers never win again until the day I die. I find Steeler fans to be the most pompous arrogant entitled group of fans that exist. They will tell you all about how great they are, 6 titles whenever even the most have zero clue who Lynn Swan is, how they are "different" then other teams in terms of conduct, and the media loves to blow its wad about them at any point. Mix in that their "worst period" of in the last almost 50 years was the 80s when they only made the playoffs 4 times, won one division crown, and made the AFC title they can have a decade or two with no relevance. In regards to teams I like the Packers are fine and depending on the year I can pull for them because they are small market like us. Vikings are cool they are the NFC version of us so if they are doing well I will pull for them to get their chance. The Cardinals I have a bit of a thing for because of Larry Fitzgerald and they are a fun team a lot. The Raiders are the one AFC team that I do actually like because I grew up loving Gannon and the black and silver is straight bada**. Other than that if the Bills are out of it I cheer more for individual players or perhaps a cool story like the Saints after Katrina.

thank god While I agree about keeping games here I have to admit watching Football from 9am until 11pm where I can drink and eat food all day was quite nice.

OMG THE GUY HASN'T PLAYED A SINGLE DOWN THAT MATTERS AND WE ARE ALREADY PROCLAIMING HES DREW MOTHER F*CKING BREES. CALM THE HELL DOWN PEOPLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Sorry but this is a pretty poor take for a few reasons the biggest being McD does not call the defense anymore he stopped after week 3 or 4 and Frazier really does run the show. He has said himself it was too much and his job is the coach of the team not one specific side. So he isn't just specializing in one area as a coach. He may have more skill with defense but his focus is the team and the defense is Frazier. Second Gailey didn't have his number #1 WR traded before the season which resulted in his #2 WR retiring in frustration. That is 100% not on McD that was all Beane and they still made the playoffs. Before the trade the Bills were lauded for what they had to the WR corp by having Watkins & Boldin and Jones to learn from them. Would the offense have been that much better with them? Probably not in terms of being a Top 10 type unit but even as a lower 20s passing game that would've been much better. Third Gailey never got the team over 7-9 and never won a big game when it mattered. Yes the Patriots was nice in 2011 but that looks more like a fluke in retrospect. Gailey's squad couldn't beat a crappy Rams team at home in December. Say what you want about the offense but he had them do enough that the team made the playoffs. Comparing him to Gailey is just a really poor stretch, I get what your trying to do but McD making the playoffs with a rag tag roster minus Shady/TreWhite puts him in a whole different place compared to any drought coach. The offense does need to improve he and Beane said as much yesterday and the focus should be on what pieces potentially will be slotted in for this next season.

To be a 100% honest I'd rather move up for Roquan because I think he is more of a sure thing and would cost far less.

So I'll cover this and then my thoughts on long term Bills New York’s Jets 2015 - 10-6 2nd place AFC East. Missed PO.2016- 5-11 4th place AFC East. Missed PO. 1st season was a veteran team with high cap that was relying on Ryan Fitzpatrick who played out of his mind. Frankly they just had their vets have career years and 2016 was more a regression to the mean. Miami Dolphins2016 - 10-6 2nd Place AFC East. WC Loss.2017 - 6-10 3rd Palce AFC East. Missed PO. Simple season one with Tannehill healthy you saw Gase run his offense the way he wanted. Tannehill's injury threw a major wrench in their season regardless of Cutler/Moore. That said they were still as much in it as Buffalo going into week 15 in regards to the Wildcard and many Miami thought they could run the table the same way we did. Buffalo Bills2017 - 9-7 2nd Place AFC East. WC Loss.2018 - ???????? Truthfully this Bills roster overachieved big time with major credit for McD coaching wise and got lucky in quite a few games. I believe that based off their advanced stats the Bills were actually more of a 6 win team in 2017 then 9 so frankly if they win 7-8 next year that would be an improvement on their metrics. How do they avoid slipping too far? To me it looks like this if they plan on building up from 9 wins: - Go 6-2 at home next season again. The Bills at home minus the NOLA game were incredibly hard to play against and finally used the crowd's energy to help them get back to being a very tough opponent for those on the road. If you look at the best teams year in year out their home record is a huge factor in them staying in the playoffs ie NE PIT GB for starters. 6-2 at home means you can go just 3-5 on the road and still have a shot. -With the secondary fixed strengthen the front 7. The Bills lack a top pass rush at LB or DE they need both frankly. Star Lotulelei would be a great add to the middle, but they need a DE and a true stud LB in the middle to play with Milano. The defense with the right additions can go from a good bend not break D to a Top 10 17 pts or less allowed type unit. If you have a defense doing that which starts getting back to being as good as 2014 and you will be in every game regardless of how awful the offense is. -QB who can distribute the ball decently and get the Bills up to 23-24 pts a game on average. The offense was pathetic at 18.9 ppg and whoever the QB is whether FA or Draft they better be able to move the ball passing better and get 22ppg minimum especially with the QB's Buffalo faces next year. -Have a RB who can take some carries from Shady to keep him fresh. Shady is a truely incredible player but age will catch him at some point. If the Bills can draft a guy like Nick Chubb who can be the future heir at RB but short term help to take some carries they really would extend Shady's shelf life another year while keeping him at his best.

For the very same reason you want Rudolph I want Jackson. His numbers are great, plays in a pro style offense that isn't nearly as talented as OSU, and in general has good size. Opinions will be all over for different QBs, I wanted Rudolph last year and came away frankly under whelmed after this season. But truthfully we have zero clue who will be good or bad its more or less a roll of the dice a lot of the time. We currently don't have an OC that can maximize the QB we have so that in itself is a problem which means we just need to hope that if a QB is drafted he is one who can do whats asked.

He might be available in the 3rd with how his mechanics are and the fact he is a spread system QB that scouts do not like

Agreed. That year you saw what he can do with good talent at WR, RB, & O-Line. He can be about above average. However I am not sure if he would ever replicate that because after that season defenses started covering his outside deep routes different making the throws far tougher to make and changed how they covered him in the pocket.

I understand the want for a new QB drafted and as someone who didn't want EJ but bought his jersey after the second game I would be excited. New drafted QB's offer such hope and fun. BUT based off what McD/Frazier have said about the offense only needing to score 24 pts with the defense doing the rest and the holes that Beane created I just can't see the Bills going all out for a QB. I actually really like Mayfield also, but with how this group is focused I think its far more plausible that 2019 is the QB draft year and 2018 they strengthen the roster. Respectfully my $.02

Wayyy too early predictions: -Alex Smith is the starting QB after trading Glenn and a 4th to KC for him -Bills do not draft a QB in the draft instead solidifying DE, DT, OL, & LB in the first two rounds to add to the defense which also grabs Star Loutelli in FA. -Nick Chubb quietly is the steal of the draft for the Bills who get him in the 3rd round and have a true solid backup to Shady and future heir to the starting RB role -Paul Richardson is added in FA to a WR core making him the 2/3 guy behind Benjamin & D Thompson who is kept after a solid season. Jay Jones is put on notice to earn his wayy back into the Top 3 after far too many drops -Charles Clay is cut because Nick O'Leary does the same thing for cheaper. O'Leary is your starting TE with Logan Thomas ascending up to #2 -Preston Brown is also told to take a walk out along with Tolbert, Humber, & Brandon Tate -DeMario Davis & 1st rnd pick join Matt Milano as starting LB's. -EJ Gaines signs a 4 year deal to stay here at CB for 6 million, with a team option to let him go after year two or keep him -Kyle Williams & Lo'Alexander stay for one more run with the boys

I hate doing this when we don't know who our QB is, who other teams QBs are, roster changes, draft, FA etc... That said for the purpose of fun and with my belief the Bills are going to grab Alex Smith at QB and use the draft/FA to solidfy the roster holes I rate the schedule like this: Home: TEN- Win. 60/40 should win but tough team that runs well so that is a close game JAX- Win. repeat again 60/40 should win but tough team that runs well so that is a close game LAC: Loss. Talented defense, talented offense, and LAC plays well in BUF also for some weird reason. Only reason I go against LAC is if Rivers looks like he is regressing with age NE: Loss. I think we play NE tougher next year but I won't ever call it a Bills win until it happens while Brady is QB. NYJ: Win. They will be even tougher next year as they solidify their lineup and Bowles is a solid coach IMO MIA: Win. Same as Jets better team next year and Tannehill is back DET: Win. Honestly Detroit is maddening because they feel like a team that should every year break over the hump, but somehow don't and lose games with a top 10-12ish QB like Stafford that they shouldn't. BUF wins because DET for some reason losses these types of games. CHI: Win. They will be better and it will be closer then people like but overall CHI has a lot of work to do on offense. Their defense has some real talent though. Away: IND: Win. They need another season of adding talent to the roster and frankly need a year of Luck just getting back in rhythm. HOU: Loss. Watson looked like the real deal and they should be healthy across the board. Possibly the most talented roster in the AFC without injuries. BAL: Win. 60/40 game This is a roster that seems to be on the downhill age and talent wise. Frankly they blew it the last three seasons because their offense wasn't good enough and it ain't improving any time soon. NE: See above NYJ: Win. Buffalo avenges their loss in 2017 MIA: Loss. MIA gets their revenge on BUF and emerges as potentially BUF biggest challenger for WC. MIN: Loss. Incredibly solid roster and possibly this years SB Champs. BUF pushes them hard but can't overcome. GB: Loss. Buffalo probably makes a game of it but we are not beating Rodgers and crew in GB. Overall 9-7 to me feels safe, and I can easily see them at 7-9 also or 11-5. Few bounces make all the difference.

OP you make some really good points and this was well thought out. That said remember the Bills plan is if they score 24 pts they believe their defense can keep the opposing team under that. It's very similar to what Minnesota is doing and if you look at the Vikings I doubt you'd say Case Keenum is better then a host of the teams they've beaten this year but here we are. So it's very hard in general to tell next year because things change so much. I think the AFCE in general is going to be a buzz saw for all of the teams even NE just because of how everyone is adding pieces across the board. If Buffalo goes 6-2 again at home they will be in the playoff race until the end again, that may be the biggest thing really is to defend the dirt as McD says.

I will die if I have to watch this game my body cannot handle it

Yea Sal C. from WGR a while back had good information of how difficult it was to get home night games. I think the Pegula's are slightly more willing because they like the attention and exposure of night time games so with them it may happen a bit more for home games. But in general the organization is sensitive to the fact the team has a lot of people driving 1-3 hrs which is why you also don't see almost any games at 4pm beside the fact the team had been irrelevant for so long. I will have a pretty sizeable breakdown on the schedule and what to expect for 2018 after the Bills win the SB!

Overall attendance is hard to judge. IF all NFL stadiums were filled to capacity every week Buffalo would rank 11th in the NFL before standing room tickets just by basic capacity rankings. In general teams manipulate numbers all the time including BUF so it is very hard to judge because everyone is trying to look better then the next. I was at the snow game and they said 60k showed yet I felt like it was more low 50k but who am I to know. Bills fans I think are a very dedicated bunch and one of the big 6 fan bases that travel well and loyalty knows no fault (other five KC, DEN, PIT, CLE, & PHI). At the same point I think we and other similar football markets sometimes get a little full of ourselves because of devotion and markets like LA or Miami become easy targets when the stands aren't a 100% full despite the fact we have had similar this season. On the other hand the stadium has been for the most part this last decade pretty full or sold out regularly. This season people came in with far less high hopes and backed down on the madness. I know I myself went from season to going to 3 games.

Bills night time home games from 2010 on: TNF 2012 Dolphins TNF 2016 Jets That is it. One thing you do need to know is the way they setup the stadium for night time television the Ralph has awful infrastructure in terms of wiring etc.. that makes it a very difficult stadium to setup. I am not sure if during the renovation any of this was improved but in general because of its age it is a more difficult stadium to do at night. Mix in that the team really tries for home games to be at 1 pm Sunday as much as possible because of Canadian, Southern Tier, & Rochester markets and you have another major reason why we are not on TV as much. That said I predict 3 night games next season. TNF, SNF, & MNF with at least one home.

I will do a more true write up once the post season is over and we win the SB focusing on the Bills potential for night games. Thanks to the playoffs and some storylines already writing themselves like BUF v JAX in post season and playing in 2018 there is a very good chance the Bills play not only on TNF but also MNF and maybe finally a return to Sunday Night Football. Here are the facts on this last season of Sunday Night Football: -18 of the 32 NFL teams appeared on SNF. ATL, BAL, DAL , DEN, DET, GB, HOU, IND, KC, MIA , MIN, NE, NYG, OAK, PHI, PIT, SEA, & WSH -Every team that made the 2017 playoffs played on SNF -Every team except for KC hosted a SNF game at home and KC hosted a Saturday night game and MNF game at home. -The remaining teams that missed the playoffs BAL, DEN, IND, MIN, PHI, & WSH all have been in Super Bowl or won their division within the last 3 years. They also all are major markets for the NFL So I would expect the Bills at minimum to be on SNF and if they don't host at home which I think they will against the Jaguars earlier in the season, they will host on Monday Night Football instead.

There is pressure but with the drought gone they can just focus on building the best roster to win even if it may be more geared for 2019. The drought was such a noose for any coach/gm.

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You have to look at how Buffalo is building to see their plan for QB and it will not be to trade up for a QB if it means mortgaging the farm. This team has had a great first year with McBeane but the roster has some real holes on D in the front 7 and the Bills offense needs line help and at least a #2 WR plus backup RB and of course QB. If you have watched how calculated every move McBeane has made their goal will be to infuse the team with as much talent as possible this offseason to shore up these holes. If that means that for QB they have to grab Alex Smith or Keenum and wait another year so be it. The last thing they want to do is give the farm for a QB to a team that can't help set him up for success on both sides of the ball. In no way am I saying if they like Mayfield and he's available at 28 they wouldn't pick him or Rudolph in the 2nd etc.. but I just don't see this group in this draft pulling that kind of move. They have said they believe if their offense scores 24 pts that the defense can keep the otherside under that and win. That will only be emphasized more this offseason to strengthen that D.

Thats actually pretty cool can't lie.

Sorry you * Patriots which for 95% of Bills fans is they cheated, my bad.