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lol the scarfs they gave us ended up literally freezing into place. That was different

Thanks truthfully you are looking at 4 players in a nearly 20 year period that are WOF worthy. That isn't much especially compared to other teams who were remotely more relevant.

Pretty simple: R Brown- 9x Pro Bowler dude deserves to be in HOF not just Bills E Moulds- Stats are superb and on a team with more name power he would be viewed even better E Wood- ^ditto especially for lineman and being on a Bills team that was consistency bad and irrelevant. Also 2nd best center in team history K Williams- Respected league wide for his play and garner appropriate pro bowls for it. Killing of drought is also on resume After that the rest were good to at points great but in my mind never had the consistency or in the case of Schobel noticeable difference making where it makes sense to add him. Freddie is an easy no, had maybe four truly good-great years at best and you could argue he is behind Travis Henry, Lynch, & even McGhee in terms of production and skill ranking wise. Cracking into the OJ, Thurman, Shady group is tough sledding.

I just see this season at the 2013 year all over. Talent isn't there on offense at this point, but the defense is piecing to be a really strong unit. I see alot of close games where afterwards fans are frustrated because they couldn't score enough and take advantage.

Because we don't have an offense lol

WGR's issue is their best people IMO have left or are marginalized in their roles. Sal should have his show and replace Schoop/Bulldog. He is really insightful and does a good job balancing his role with a fans perspective whereas Mike seems threatened by any fan who god forbid wants to be a fan for a moment. Joe B was superb and the TV stations got him. A lot of their producers have been better then their hosts like Simon or Schoop. They just seem to settle with what they have far too much.

You don't have to be set for life, but if he is bringing in even 25-30k a year it gives him the ability to pick part time work he wants to bring in another 10-20k. For most people they can do well off that assuming they don't have a tremendous amount of debt.

If he told his buddies to go over and grab his stuff and they proceeded to beat her up then that is on them. If he told them to go there and hurt her then he is 100% at fault. 1st scenario would clear McCoy to the extent he didn't order a hit or anything and things got out of hand. NFL will suspend and its up to Bills if they keep him. The second he goes to prison. That's all I was saying and I agree any connection in anyway he is toast both NFL and potentially life wise.

Agreed. I could absolutely see he "sent friends over" to remove stuff from the house and then things got rough. One of those I didn't "authorize it" in anyway they just lost their control. Would be very hard to prove guilt and he probably would be suspended. But gotta see the facts.

Remember at this point the friend is the accuser not the GF. When people split one person also can go nuts and will find any reason to go after the other. The whole thing is just going to need time to sort out involvement etc..

I never doubted something happen I won't with DV until its absolutely proven false. Your right the big question is Shady's involvement. As shown with the Janoris Jakins thing it just takes a dumb*ss family member to create a stupid situation the player has no involvement with. It's not far to see Shady asked a buddy to take some of her stuff out of his house and instead the dude went ape. Also has to be questioned if Shady told the guy to?

Oh I am in no way trying to discredit this is incredibly serious. Just saying that usually there are other leaks etc.. with it that is all and if he knew you'd think his behavior would be different.

yea in no way do I want to discredit the victim. Someone had that happen and its god awful, but between no comments by the Bills, major media, or anything from Shady and his tweets its really really odd.

The other thing is its only been reported in one place and you have to think the Bills would be aware already and made a statement. But either way super awful.

Found it. This isn't going to go well even if he is cleared and its proven false, the picture is awful.

Do you have a link or anything. This is a sizeable statement without anything to back it up

The 56-10 game was a very cold but clear night no rain or snow. But very cold for November. The 2010 NE game was far worse snowed most of it, wind, etc.. We had a fire which I basically was standing in when we tailgated because it was so cold. Only colder game I can remember attending was the Steelers in 2016. Our beer for beer pong literally froze on top to the point the balls broke the ice and the cans were freezing. FUN TIMES haha

OUCH That's pretty decent. My wife and I went on a 10 game winning streak from 2011-2015 where we didn't see them lose. Of course the game that killed that streak was NE in 2015 when we tried to break the sound barrier. The funny thing is there were a bunch of games I straight up expected them to lose during our streak including KC 2012, CAR/BAL 2013, GB 2014, and IND 2015 where heading into those game the Bills were underdogs.

Thats the game I picked. We left late 3rd and on our way to the parking lot heard the FG go through. Shout song and all came on and literally you heard nothing from the stadium otherwise. Sooo bad.

That may be the all time worse for me watching wise. I went into that day soo freaking excited to the point had Bills sock and matching blue and red tie for work plus brought my mini Bills helmet. Got to our local bar we go to for night games which was pretty packed everyone was excited they had a special on Bills shots. It would've been the first time in my adult life I remember the Bills being 6-2 and genuinely feeling like the playoffs weren't a lie. AND.... then the game started. I ended up Gronk spiking my Iphone in anger after Tyrod's fumble in the 3rd and we left after because I knew it was time for me to go home. I think I had a three day depression after because it just reconfirmed like 17 years of doubt and fear in literally 3 hours. I really give McD and the team credit for coming back after the 3 game skid because it was impossible to not view it as another tease. God I remember watching that game in college and you weren't as much angered as just so utterly shelled that they were so hopeless haha

Funny thing is they were up 6-0 at halftime too

Anyone who attended this should be allowed paid therapy from the Bills for the pain they had to see

I have a feeling many people will respond similar. Worst game I have ever seen was that New England SNF game in 2007 when we lost 52-13. The tailgate was fun, but it felt like a blink of an eye and the game was 35-7. Just never even felt close at any point. After that the 2010 season I saw the Bills get smoked by the Jets at home in the rain which was awful and the home finale against NE they lost 34-3 on a frigid like 10 degree day with snow. The lot we parked in literally consisted of are group and a few other groups while otherwise looking like the barren wastelands of Hoth haha. Probably the most boring game I have seen was the Bills Dolphins TNF game in 2014 it was 3-3 at halftime and neither team had any interest in scoring.

Packers Texans with GB winning. Probably best Packer team on paper in a while as long as everyone is healthy. Defense added some nice pieces and Graham in the middle is a nightmare. Texans are the most talented team in the AFC on paper assuming they still injury free to their main guys and Watson stays at the pace he was.

You'll be fine in Miami. About 1/3rd of the stadium is Bills fans and I've been there twice once at night once during the day. That tailgating scene isn't crazy but there is something neat about being outside with palmtrees tailgating. My interactions with their fans were great and if you bring up mutual hatrid of NE things get civil real quick anyway. The new roof they put on covers 90% of the stadium minus the vistor sideline, but the fans get covered by shade within the first 45 minutes so by early 2nd quarter we were fine. Just drink water incase. Food and drink prices weren't bad I thought. The stadium has good sight lines the first time we were up for the TNF game in 2014 in 315 40 yard line about 5-7 rows up. Great sightlines and the noise was good but at the time the roof wasn't on. The second time we sat section 107 about 23 rows up and the sight lines were good for the most part. Ironically we didn't see the Landry hit on A Williams because it was toward the other sideline but you can see pretty well anyway plus the video boards are nice. Safest place I thought overall it was pretty fair, but somehow Bills fans seem to congrate in the 100 level endzones areas pretty heavily from what I remember. You'll have a blast I just hope you have better luck win wise, both times I've been the Bills blew leads they shouldn't have. 2016 was especially bad considering we were up 10 pts in the 4th. So many of their fans are in the club areas. When we went to the 2014 night game the stadium was literally 60% full until Miami took the lead and then it was like mice coming out of the woodwork...which lasted until 5 minutes to go in the fourth and they all left again haha.