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This point I wish I could highlight into the dam sun. The patriots have drafted more QBs then us. I my opinion any new regime should draft a new QB in round 1 or 2 within 3-4 years even if they have a quality starter just because you never know.

A lot of people have been commenting that perhaps McD and Beane should be relieved or at least one changed by seasons end. Here is a look at how long coaches have had to put their program in (for better or worse): 1996-97- Marv sees Kelly retire and follows suit next season after Todd Collins doesn't pan out 1998-2000 DC Wade Phillips steps in and the team trades for Rob Johnson to be the future while adding longtime vet Flutie. Without rehashing Ralph basically forced Wade's at QB hand to the point it was easier to leave then stay. During this time Jerry Butler runs the show with a pretty strong staff including AJ Smith who turned later helped turn the Chargers around with Butler. (3 years) 2001-2003 Tom Donahoe is brought in to be the new GM after Butler resigns. Donahoe at the time was highly regarded for his work in Pittsburgh and hire's hot DC candidate Greg Williams to be the new head coach. At the time it was believed Williams could bring the defense more success while helping to smooth out the QB situation. Johnson flames out but the Bills get Bledsoe from NE. Williams in the end is relieved but was able to bring his program in. (3 Years) 2003-05 Donahoe brings in Mularkey who has some relative success both never gets a chance to put together a full team due to QB controversy and mgmt change with Donahoe being replaced by Marv. (2 Years) 2006-2009 Dick Jaruon gets the longest chance of any Bills coach with over three and half years to get his team and QB with Edwards being the guy he thought could work. (3 and 1/12 years) 2010-2012 Chan Gailey gets his shot but never gets enough talent on defense nor a chance to pick a QB of his liking. EJ was after Chan by Nix/Whaley (3 years) 2013-2014 Doug Marrone chooses to leave after building a decent program 2 years in despite Manuel's flame out (2 years) 2015-2016 Rex is given a roster with a lot of talent but still chooses to remake it as his own. Taylor being brought in is a plus given prior QB problems but his defense never gets a chance to be fully established due to injury and being relieved just 2 years in (2 years) Overall only Jauron and Williams ever really got a chance to put their true program and QB out there. The rest the cord was pulled before they got a chance or they left. The biggest thing with this you see is how many times the deck had to be refreshed and altered because of a new coach. I really think McD and Beane should get four years just for the fact I want to see a coach for the first time in over 2 decades to truly put his stamp on a team for better or worse.

It still is a private business and I really don't care what support it does or doesn't get from who. This isn't native to Buffalo either if you check across a lot of professional teams they have denied access to reporters. It's part of the business at this point.

Not surprised and frankly don't blame the Pegula's. While I am not fans of the ownership thus far by Terry and Kim, both of them took shots and criticism that went past analysis and were uncalled. If Tim Graham, Vic, Joe B, etc... can criticize the team without crossing the boundary so can those two. With sports teams especially its a privileged not a right to get press access. I remember at one point Terry was criticized by Jerry Sullivan for his contributions to Penn State hockey because of the Sandusky atrocity which was far before Pegula came in. It made literally zero sense and just felt cheap.

lol I love when people say something set a team back 5-8 years yet in the NFL literally a QB can make a team a contender overnight

We keep operating under this bubble that the HC picked these players and the GM had no role while knowing they had to shed contracts to fix the cap things would be fine on offense. If you want to criticize their decision making on the QB and going with Peterman that is valid or that they could've drafted a WR earlier. They could've and should've brought in a veteran like Matt Moore who could've shielded them from their current spot. But in the grand scheme their goal was to fix the defense, draft a QB for the future, and fix the cap so moving forward which they have all three. 2019 is a massive year for Beane and McD's future, but they will be able to dictate for better or worse who they bring in and what they bring in with no restrictions. There are warning signs on what they are going for that I see from talent e v a l on offense to the willingness to overspend draftpicks for players when they could wait and have filled more holes. But no team has a shot in hell firing coaches and front office every 2 years. Coaches need 3 years to get their guys in otherwise your just shuffling one guys parts in for another. Additionally what coach in his right mind wants to join an NFL team that fires a coach bi-yearly? That is the opposite of job security and you will not get the best candidates. Mahomes and Goff are super sexy I get that and the allure. Mahomes also walked into a ready made position with one of the best NFL coaches over the last two decades that had tons of skill guys and cap to add a player like Watkins. McVay took over a team that had drafted what they felt was the top QB 1st overall and also added weapons like Robert Woods and Andrew Whitworth at OL. Neither of these situations were present for McD when he took over and this was Beane's first true year on the job. Before you say I am a defender of the team or unrealistic I get your criticism. I think they are to a certain extent really tone deaf with how they managed certain things especially with how they handled Peterman and how they didn't cut him after week 1. If your going to wipe the slate clean there are ways to do so without embarrassing yourself and adding garbage to navigate. It's great that the defense is set ready for a contender, but having a solid vet QB, drafting a WR, and paying for some OL help wouldn't have broke the bank while helping to lower the flak you'd receive in what was expected to be a rough season. They picked the other path and now face deserved criticism that they could've avoided, it is what it is. But Buffalo hasn't allowed a coach/front office to come in pick their QB and build a team to their vision since truthfully Donahoe took over. That was over 15 years ago I am willing to let them see it through. If it does fail guess what we will have a top 3 pick with a new group to go with a new QB which moves the team that further ahead then cutting bait half way in.

1 - Peterman - I am not as mad that they named him starter. Anyone watching preseason would say it looked like he improved and deserved at least to be on the roster. The issue is that he is still on the roster. It is incredibly unnerving they won't cut him and admit they messed up something they should've happened after Baltimore. 2 - Trubisky - Agreed. He isn't the trainwreck he was last year, but I see a very average guy long term who might do slightly better thanks to his good coaching and scheme. 3 - Execution - The Rex stuff is exhausting. The 2015 team was the most talent Buffalo had since 1999 and they went 8-8. Rex was said to have relished the spotlight but not the true X's and O's studying and video needed in todays NFL. The defense is certainly better and the offense just lacks talent straight up. I will wait one more year before I really make a true judgement. But I will say the goodvibes of last year are gone 2019 is a majorrrr prove it year in every sense for McD. 4 -OK 5 - Read-Option Defense - Not as worried here they didn't even gain 200 yards total, Edmunds was out, and in general everyone is RPOing now it will take time for defenses to find a solution to copy cat. 6 - Special Teams - Agreed. Crossman's special teams have generally been bad during his time here minus one good season. They are just bleeding bad plays when they have zero room to. 7 - Dawkins - I think for Dawkins he went from an incredibly solid group with strong veteran leadership to a bunch of scrubs that are actually playing above skill set given what I have seen. I think its just a matter of learning how to play with less talent. Still high on him long term. 8 - Evaluating Talent - I'm fine if they are in talent judge mode. I don't worry about effort because it is soo easy to lose your job in the NFL and be replaced. Regardless of record guys know they need to be at their best. 9 - Another Blow-Out - There are two streets you can take here. 1. They knew they'd be bad this year and the talent would expose them so this is what it is. That's the hopeful path but it cannot ignore how bad they've been in blowouts. 2. This team really has some true flaws being exposed when luck, an easier schedule, and better talent isn't there to help. I think its a mix of both truthfully, but as someone there yesterday I am at the point of asking why even go. I love the tailgate, energy, atmosphere, etc.. its amazing..BUT why spend $80 to see us routinely curb stopped when I could stay at home and do the same. 10 - Daboll - 10 carries. McCoy had 7 carries and it was 21-0 before the end of the second half. At that point you can't run when your down that much and the defense is going to stack the box because they don't fear McCoy. I have had no issues with Daboll because he has no talent and his rookie QB is out. I've actually liked his scheming and this season I really can't judge much on Allen or Daboll given the lack of parts for either to work with.

2019 Bills based off players currently on roster: Offense QB: Allen (Need true backup like bringing Fitz in for another go or someone who can actually move the offense a bit) RB: McCoy, Ivory & Murphy (Wouldn't be surprised if they draft a guy here, but not trading Shady tells you about their intentions for next year) WR: Zay Jones (Remake this from the fires below. Seriously need WR1, WR3, WR4. I think Zay can be WR 2 now especially with teams running 3 wide putting an emphasis on having a bunch of guys) OL: Dawkins, Teller, Bodine, & Ducasse (Need minimum G and new RT, two guards would be preferable plus possibly another center) TE: Croom & Thomas (Late draft pick on a guy or in FA. I think they give both of these guys a true chance) Defense DL: Star, H. Phillips, J. Phillips, (I could see them drafting Oliver if he is there otherwise sign solid DT for depth) DE: Hughes, Yarbough, & Murphy (Draft Bosa if he is there or sign best pass rusher possible) LB: Milano, Edmunds, Alexander, Humber, & Stanford (Need solid vet to rotate with Zo and for depth) CB: Tre White, T. Johnson, Lewis, & Pits (need CB2) SAF: Poyer, Hyde, Bush, & Neal (set no change) ST Kicker: Hauschka Punter: Schmidt or Borq Overall the defense basically needs a DE, DL, possibly CB2 and then just some depth. It is more or less pretty well set and young. The offense has about 5 starters out of 11 and needs 6 starters big time.

The 6 TD was kind of perfect situation. Trubisky started with good field position a bunch, had a good day, and played a Bucs defense I routinely pick QBs in fantasy to play against because they are so porous. Trubisky played well and not taking that away from him, but it was a very circumstantial type game in my eyes not standard for him early on.

So the Bears offense as many have said they do a lot of motion to try and confuse defenses but once the play starts its very straightforward. When the plays go as scripted they can have success as Nagy has shown this season and previously with KC. The key though is just to not buy into motion and not over pursue out of your lanes. Trubisky really struggles if their are tight windows and he can't move around. Like others have said spy him heavily and just play frankly the way the defense has was a their scheme being straightforward. Their defense is really good although Mack's ankle helps a bit and their secondary is not a strength the way ours is. As others have said this could be a game similar to the Titans where its a tight slugfest. Unfortunately not having Allen whose mobility allowed the Bills to get a few mismatches or chances for him to run will probably be the difference in my eyes.

I think this was more of a money decision then QB although that had an indirect role. Brown is betting that this off-season he will make more then he would've signing in Buffalo for 3 years and he most likely will. I think had Buffalo paid 9 million he probably comes here, but Flacco for 1 year offered better chance for more $ then the 7 million for 3 years. The Bills will probably have to overpay if they have any hope of getting some WR's with true talent given the current situation. They absolutely can get players but they need to be willing to spend the money.

I can tell you from a well connected source (not dunkirk don lol) that UB has been frustrated with the Bills because they take so much attention from their team and had the team moved the amount of money that would've been pumped in to push UB as the football team of WNY would've been ginormous. Obviously they are still trying hard and once the Pegula's bought the team it became a mute point for UB to think super big, but it is an interesting other universe question of how UB's football team which is dominating currently would be received and how it would've been promoted.

Yea you can't pass up game changers like that so I agree. But then after heavy O

Did you read the post at all where it specifically says with no regard to it actually happening just who you would want to see? I am clearly aware that if the team gets a TNF game that would be amazing at this point for next season.

The Bills show on WGR today had Peter King on who talked about how amazing Buffalo is for night games and that there should be a game every year in Buffalo. So if we were to have a night game in 2019 who would you want to see. (mind you this is not a poll on whether we should have a game, why the team sucks and doesn't deserve a game etc...) For my money I would love to see the Bills host Philadelphia I think that would be pretty electric. I truthfully think if we get a MNF game again it would be against Baltimore or the Jets with a resurgent Darnold led offense vs Allen and a Bills resurgent led offense.

Better then being known for snow like always lol

Agreed ,this year with Allen is all trial and error and any experience is good. Next year though he has to show true progress with hopefully improved weapons/line and the offense needs to be more in the middle.

BOYS WERE BRINGING THE WISHBONE BACK!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You mean like last year when they lost to the Phins on MNF after putting up 41 33 35 and 23? Not saying at all its happening my money is full NE but the past games have zero impact on present outcome nor do they guarantee what should happen.

Sooo 20-3 again is what your saying haha Your thinking of 2009, 2015 was the last time we played them on MNF I actually considered and at one point wanted to go to this. Thankfully ticket prices scared me off in July and then the season started cementing no reason to attend this at all.

This will not happen. Whether people want to admit or not the biggest issue the Bills have had is lack of congruity. The plan in the owners eyes is at minimum 4 years if not 5. When you turnover coaching and football operations that much it wrecks everything. It will look like this: 2017 Year 1 Analysis: McBeane sees their roster both good and bad tries building culture team lucks a bit into the playoffs 9-8 2018 Year 2 Teardown: Full blown tear down while finishing the defense for what it needs to try and be somewhat competitive in games. Goal is to reset everything from cap to draft picks while adding a QB you hope to be franchise. 4-12 maybe 5-11 because they have a habit at home of winning games they shouldn't 2019 Year 3 New Base Sets: Next year they should add a lot to the offense and Allen hopefully takes a step up to be competent where he at least isn't a problem even if he isn't the full solution yet. They need to be 8 wins minimum and be at least on the door step of the playoffs if not in 2020 Year 4 Contend: At this point Brady should be gone dead or aged and the team should be curated into the group they want. Division title and 11-5 I would expect to be their bar at that point. Anything less and McD will come under fire. The earliest I think you see any chance McD is gone is the end of 2020 if they are not in the playoffs. Even then I really think the Pegula's have backed away from massive changes routinely and have moved into more of a long term patient approach. Additionally if McD has the team right on the cusp in 2020 even if he misses I still think he is safe for two more years. He does have a playoff birth under his belt regardless of how it happens and how people want to discredit him. That will matter to the ownership.

There is no final straw I love watching regardless of product. BUT yesterday we were all cheering for Peterman to go in after Anderson's 2nd INT to see how much worse it could get and on the 3rd INT we were all pulling for the Colts to get a TD. Yea I've hit that point of just lose for draft reasons and if they win its like a nice surprise.

I give you kudos for admitting it. In the time leading up to the season I predict the Bills 6-10 and said they'd miss Taylor just because he was at least safe with the ball. People ridiculed and ripped it thinking it couldn't get worse. Well it can. Remember Taylor at QB they probably beat the Texans and yesterday its more like a 20-5 loss. I had no issue with the Bills wanting to be aggressive at QB and going for Allen it was frankly refreshing. I maybe would've kept Taylor for Allen to sit behind but I understood their logic. Whats annoying is people jumping off the deep end with Beane and McD. Don't get me wrong they deserve criticism and justly for the teams performance. I have said Beane failed by not being more aggressive for a WR this offseason or bringing in a more established vet at QB. McD's love affair with Peterman has hurt them twice. But the long view is the team needed a true reset. 95% of the time reset's where you move out bad money and restock hurt like hell. The defense is a good unit and set for a good number of years. The offense is going to be a work in progress and you may not see what its suppose to truly be until 2020. They should be playoff competitive next season anything less and yea bring the torches to put the pressure on.

There is legitimate pressure on IND to win after a bunch of close loses and then the Jets loss. On the other hand the Bills are a hot mess with a great D SOO: 24-10 Colts Defense keeps it close until late Luck gets a late TD to distance IND. Offense is marginally better but not much leaving a lot of opportunities out there. Anderson: 202 yds 13-21 McCoy: 95 yds 1 TD WR: Benjamin 85 yds 6 rec

Your stories would actually be quite fun to hear in an open setting. My uncle went to games at War as a kid and his seat was half blocked by a support beam but his dad got a good deal. He said the players knew if the game got bad the fans would throw bottles at them. Pretty funny stuff.