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Like it or not the long term future will require a future stadium whether at the Ralph or a new stadium to be updated and it will have some elements that cater to a richer and more family based crowd. The cost to renovate the Ralph is estimated right around $500 million so its a good serious question do you rebuild or relocate new? I get you and every other fan who will talk the tailgate environment and culture blah blah blah. They don't entirely care about that and if they can make a stadium downtown near everything else they own that will make more money while still maintaining some tailgate culture they will do so.

To this day probably one of the single funniest moments in training camp history

I'm pretty sure the RW statue gets more coverage from fans then a Bills WR downfield

Yep and actually not just the last 4 seasons but you have to go back to 2010 being the last time the Bills were hot garbage at midway point: 2010: 0-8 2011: 5-3 2012: 3-5 2013: 3-5 2014: 5-3 2015: 4-4 2016: 4-4 2017: 5-3 The only season were mid point they really were toast was 2010. The rest of the years they actually in a playoff spot, right on the brink, or at least close enough prompting our "in the hunt" jokes. The Bills have only started 0-2 once since 2010 and that was 2016 which they got to 4-2 pretty quick right after. The middle to end of the season has always been the issue. The thing I think that hurts is the lack of home games in Sept/Oct. The team has usually played pretty well at home since 2010, but we only get two games until the MNF vs NE. Kinda sucks and is super unfair in my opinion when you typically are only given about a 40% chance to win on the road as is before factoring in matchup.

I would say go BPA and rank the positions like this as currently constructed: QB: INC won't know until Allen gets a few seasons to see RB: B- Shady is going to age or leave at some point, with him your have a great player but you need to insulate with youth which we don't have WR: D- After Benjamin it is just soo many question marks and teams these days use 3 WR's formations regularly. OL: C But like I said so hard to know until Groy, Teller, Bodine play and we see what we have. LT hopefully is set with Dawkins DL: C+ The Bills really could use a guy that is a true disrupter off the edge. Even if Hughes, Lawson, & Murphy do well they could use a blue chip edge rusher to really solidify the edge. The middle is fine and I am high on Harrison Phillips, but we need another guy drafted there to help for depth. LB: B I buy the Milano & Edmunds combo hard and this grade could elevate if both play to the potential we've seen/said to have in each player. Just need a guy long term on the other OLB spot but still like this a lot. CB/SAF: A Need depth and at some point another true starter but they have a lot of great pieces to work with. So I would focus WR/OL/DL next draft pretty heavy.

If this game was in Buffalo I would favor the Bills, but being in Baltimore I do think they have the advantage. That said if the Bills win it looks something like this: 17-13 type game. Buffalo has to get two touchdowns and the defense needs to force a turnover to help out will limiting the Ravens from getting inside the 40 so Tucker can't hit like you said because the dude is a Cyborg haha. The rest of the game needs to be ball control/field position type game. The last time we played Baltimore the killer play was the deep pass Flacco to Mike Wallace and they have a similar guy now with John Brown. If the Bills defense doesn't allow any big plays Buffalo should win IMO.

Hahahaha yea that is gonna be a fun day

It's funny how people can't take criticism and respond without picking facts or throwing out absolute arguments without giving any reason to the other side. If you want a powder puff commentary on the Bills then you might as well leave the internet period.

First two weeks especially are incredibly difficult to read where a team is. As long as you are 1-1 everyone generally feels OK 0-2 is the death sign though.

Here are the things I am looking forward to with pre season games how about you: QB: I am very excited to see Allen against some real NFL talent and see how he is going. While I won't say its a good thing, uncertainty at QB always makes pre-season games far more interesting to watch. I am hoping to see better mechanics foot wise and of course how strong his arm is. I am also curious to see if Peterman has progressed and what McCarron can do. Offense in general: Yes O coordinators never show their full hand, but you can still get an idea of some of the concepts and things they are focusing on. I would love to see the Bills attack deep a bit more. I felt like we have drifted away from that the last two seasons. Defensive Chemistry: The defense has talent in a lot of spots how will they work together? Will this thing gel quick or will it take time? Can Edmunds show some of the potential he has when he runs 1st team and make some plays? Jeremy Kerley: I always liked him as a WR and he has went quiet throughout the off season IMO despite being a decent sized piece to this offense. I want to see what his athleticness does or doesn't look like and in general see how much tread he has on his tires. Football Itself: To me there are two seasons, football season and no football season. I am excited to finally have some games played again and to get my hopes up for better or worse. If Allen shows the potential we want, the defense shows some nice ability to be difficult, and the team in general looks as competent as it did at points last year it will feel good heading into September.

Haha I wish

-Seahawks finish with 5 wins shocking many who can't see how talentless the team is after Wilson and a few others prompting Carrol to leave and retire -Patriots win the division at a shaky 10-6 record and finally seem to start slipping after losing at home in the wildcard round -Andrew Luck returns healthy and leads the Colts to a 9-7 record and wildcard birth -But its the AFC South Texans at 12-4 who are the class of the AFC and go to their first Super Bowl -San Francisco goes 7-9 putting the hype train back a bit on Jimmy G -Pat Mahomes is the real deal but Mitch T is not as he throws more INTs then TDs showing his issues from last year are real issues now -DROY goes to... Dallas Leighton Vander Esch who becomes the lynch pin on an improved Dallas defense that helps them make the playoffs. Edmunds does just as well but Dallas playoff birth and attention overshadows Edmunds. -OROY goes to Calvin Ridley who in the Falcons offense explodes for a big season helping ATL to the best record in the NFC. -Dallas beats Houston in a battle of Texas in the Super Bowl. Tony Romo cries seeing his replacement do what he couldn't as he broadcasts..America wants to vomit

Disagree with 2-3 because that was near peak drought bad Bills moves. Peters wanted a contract to reflect his play and back then Buffalo was not paying like that. Lynch was universally at the time regarded as talented but needed a change of scenery potentially and you can blame the Bills for mismanaging that when they had Lynch and Freddie and decided they needed to draft CJ for some awful reason. 4-9-10 were a reflection of a Bills team universally cheap and mismanaged beyond bad. Knox had his team and Ralph wouldn't pay him as he should have. I don't blame McKenzie for leaving because of that either because you lost a great coach because your owner was too poor. Kelly its the same thing joke of a team and franchise I don't blame players from avoiding places that could destroy their career. If you want players to play for you run a strong respected organization and these issues are not a problem.

I wish it was that easy but patriotism is bedrock foundation to this country both good and at times bad which has gotten us into trouble i.e Vietnam to stop communism. There is vast amount of Americans who not only see the anthem at games as tradition, but a civic honor to those who fight and serve the country. This type of nationalism is put in those people from birth and regardless of any argument explaining the kneeling they see it as an offense to those people. In other countries it is not common for anthems like this, but remember the US was founded on this nationalist type of ideal. I went to school for Poli Sci so I have looked at this pretty heavily from an analysis standpoint. You effectively have one side pro flag standing defending the nationalist element and the other saying that protesting is apart of the fabric of the US and the cause they are for is just. I don't believe either side is necessarily wrong, but the division is so great there is massive fighting by both and reason won't be heard. In general we are also replicating the social civil war we saw in the 1960s all over again. History does repeat regularly this seems to be the next step. Stopping the anthem would eliminate both sides argument both ways with probably more outrage from the pro flag/anthem people. It would also probably be a hornets nests worse then last year which is why the NFL won't do it.

Dang it Yolo I was gonna post this you beat me to it. VERY interested to see how this goes week 1.

Teared up the first half and the second felt like a dam pump up speech I was ready to run through a wall. Great speech

They literally have no offense is Shady is gone and even with him they are going to be low scoring. The team benefited from turnovers last year and fumble luck which is going to swing against them. A 5-11 building season still can be good if Allen and other youngsters show promise and learn their chops.

Seems fair I don't have them past 5-11 so works for me. The rest seem solid happy someone else believes Bears are a bit over hyped same with San Fran and that Seattle is gonna crater. Jags seem more like a 9-7 maybe 10-6 team only thing I'd change.

I have a few: 2009-McKevlin Fumble NE game. Only time I have seriously contemplated throwing a TV and I was only really stopped by my housemates and GF (now wife) saying it wasn't worth wrecking. 2010-Stevie Drop vs PIT. I actually never saw the drop because the moment it hit his hands I jumped in excitement thinking we scored. We did not score and I was depressed about a week long. 2013-CLE TNF game. I was on the EJ bandwagon hard and that game he was playing pretty well and looked like the Bills were on their way to starting 3-2. He then proceeds to get his knee wrecked and I proceed to kill my entire growler of a Double IPA around 7.8%. Yea I got sick haha. 2014- McKelvin Fumble Chiefs game. In retrospect if they won this they made the playoffs. They still had the lead I literally got back to my house as he fumbled after watching the 1st half in Buffalo. I was so upset when they lost this I had to go in the basement and work on my train layout for 3 hours to calm down. I thought I was gonna have a heart attack I was so freakin mad he fumbled again when he didn't need to do anything. 2015- Jags London. It wasn't just that call, they lost to Blake freakin Bortles in a game they had no business losing. That game basically sealed my thoughts on their chances for the season and coming had with the entire day to sit and be angry was not a good thing. I took down all of my Bills decorations that I put out doors for the season. Since 2015 I have managed to keep things more chilled but also have lower expectations I guess. On a funnier note we have a massive Bills party at our house for the first game of the year or first after home opener. 2013 we had our first party which was the Pats last second heartbreaker. I was fine despite the result but I had a ton of family I was concerned about their health including my brother in law who was so hammered that anyone ripping the Bills on facebook was immediately de-friended. He went years not knowing he defriended both family and close friends lol.

lol the scarfs they gave us ended up literally freezing into place. That was different

Thanks truthfully you are looking at 4 players in a nearly 20 year period that are WOF worthy. That isn't much especially compared to other teams who were remotely more relevant.

Pretty simple: R Brown- 9x Pro Bowler dude deserves to be in HOF not just Bills E Moulds- Stats are superb and on a team with more name power he would be viewed even better E Wood- ^ditto especially for lineman and being on a Bills team that was consistency bad and irrelevant. Also 2nd best center in team history K Williams- Respected league wide for his play and garner appropriate pro bowls for it. Killing of drought is also on resume After that the rest were good to at points great but in my mind never had the consistency or in the case of Schobel noticeable difference making where it makes sense to add him. Freddie is an easy no, had maybe four truly good-great years at best and you could argue he is behind Travis Henry, Lynch, & even McGhee in terms of production and skill ranking wise. Cracking into the OJ, Thurman, Shady group is tough sledding.

I just see this season at the 2013 year all over. Talent isn't there on offense at this point, but the defense is piecing to be a really strong unit. I see alot of close games where afterwards fans are frustrated because they couldn't score enough and take advantage.

Because we don't have an offense lol