BullBuchanan

99% of the this fanbase is completely clueless, so whatever they hate is usually the right move.

There wasn't a player like this in FA that's capable of being a Minkah Fitzpatrick type. IMO, that multi-faceted DB could put our defense over the edge.

98, 00, 05, 10, 15, 16 were every bit as bad and 11, 12, 13, 14 weren't that great either.

I mean, I guess if you make things up, anything can be true.

If he goes there, sits and learns like Rodgers did, and then is able to play the game his way, maybe he has a successful NFL career. Easily one of, if not the, most grossly mismanaged Bills prospects in my lifetime.

I can. We do these terrible draft day maneuvers to move up or down a handful of spots. Whenever we move up it seems we have to overpay and whenever we move down it seems we get the minimum. We gave up a 4th rounder to move up two spots to select Elam, Moved back twice in the second round for a total of 6 spots getting two 6th round picks. We gave up a 4th rounder to move up two spots to get Kincaid. Even though it looks like he'll be a good player, i still hate that value. If two 6th round picks can get you 6 spots int he second round, just try to do that or move up int he 3rd every year. If we can get 3 starting caliber players out of a draft and once in a while get one stud every two years, that's a good standard bar. If we want to build a SB roster while paying a $55M cap hit for a QB, we're gonna need 3 studs every two years.

Ko Simposn had a big rookie year for us and Whitner, while a bit of a disappointment, was a day 1 starter who played for 11 seasons. Far from our worst draft. The thing that everyone always overlooks on bust drafts picks, is that in the vast majority of cases (unless you're Jacksonville, the Raiders or New England) that guy who was a massive disappointment for your team, was getting drafted in the next couple of picks if you didn't take him. The draft is just as much luck as it is skill. If we didn't draft sammy watkins #4, he was going in the next couple picks. Same for Mike Williams, Ej Manuel, JP Losman, etc.

He's made $233k per tackle over the course of his career. Not a bad way to earn a living.

All of them.

That's Florida.

Good. It's the smart thing to do.

No, no they won't. Did you forget about Toronto which is bigger, more affluent, and more sports inclined than LA? As long as the team keeps winning, they won't have any problem selling out. It will just be different people in the stands.

They wouldn't, and NFL owners don't want those people. They drive down the perceived value of the brand. There's a reason they reduced capacity in the new stadium. The NFL wants to create an exclusive atmosphere - not an accessible one. The poors can watch on TV while the affluent get VIP meet & greets with TSwift next year.

I'm only trading a 1st round pick to get MHJ. Anythign else is a waste. History has shown you can get the same caliber of WR from the mid-late first, all the way to the early 3rd round.

There have been brief glimpses of it. A couple of years ago there was a period where he was throwing dimes on his deep balls and hitting players in stride down the field. I thought he has finally turned a corner there but it didn't last. This year there were so many wasted big plays where he didn't hit a wide open target or when he did they had to slow down or speed up which prevented a touchdown. I was also encouraged by what I saw of Dorsey reigning him in early this year. You could tell Josh was struggling with it, which I think was good. It got him out of his comfort zone of playing hero ball. He was taking the checkdowns and it was working. What also worked really well, and honestly what always has, is the hurry up. Josh tends to play his best in a 4 minute offense and I chalk that up to him not having to/not being able to think so much about what he's doing. He zips through his reads and fires. When he doesn't have as much pressure, he processes too slowly and incorrectly. My hope with what Dorsey was doing was that we could turn him into early years Brady or late years Manning and Elway where we don't ask him to do too much, and then he just makes the one or two big plays when he has to. I think he has that capability and he'd absolutely win a Super Bowl playing that way. Peyton Manning lost a lot of playoff games trying to be the hero, and I thought maybe McD would have learned from that, but it appears he was only willing to give an alternate approach a handful of games. Allen isn't gonna do it on his own.

He's busting his ass working on his short game. Never too early to prepare for next February.

I think it was the best offensive line we've had in a very long time time, yes. I also think that in a salary cap world, it's about as good as you can hope a line to be unless you have multiple all-pros on rookie deals elsewhere on your roster so you can pay a group like Dallas did - which didn't help them btw.

Why do so many people get this completely wrong? The strategy hasn't failed, the execution has. They've drafted and acquired underperforming players. It's not liek they're getting to Mahomes and still losing because of other reasons. Their lack of being able to do that one thing is what's causing them to lose. They built a great offensive line this past year, and while it certainly helped in the regular season, it really didn't seem to matter very much at the end of the day, because you're only as good as you're weakest link, and against KC that weak link has been defense for 4 years running. +1

We've tried that. Even when we play perfect it doesn't work. Against us, Kelce is always open and Mahomes has as much time as he wants when we play him. You can't beat a team that always scores when they need to. Lots of teams have gotten to Mahomes. He was pressured a lot more than Allen this year. jacksonville, Miami, Buffalo (reg season), LV and NE all had double digit pressures on him. In games where he was sacked 3+ times he went 1-3 and if NE had a QB maybe it's 0-4. The key to beating KC in the playoffs is holding them to 24 points. Something we cant seem to do when it matters. I have no doubt Allen can score 24+ points with the weapons we have. He doesn't get to stop Mahomes himself though.

I still expect us to win 10+ games and maybe even win the division again. I'll still be happy when we win, but I'll be less excited in general, much like I was this year. I'll basically be watching the games to enjoy the future potential of our young players instead of lying to myself about thinking we're a contender. I've kinda stopped caring about the results of games before December. I like watching to see if we do interesting things from a gameplan perspective that could help us in Jan/Feb, but over the last few years, we haven't had much of that.

100%. If you can't get to mahomes, you can't beat Mahomes. Without a significant upgrade on our front 4, I'm writing off the season as a growing/rebuilding year. It doesn't need to be an edge if we can get the production from DT, but we need to get to the QB with 4 rushers.

there still are. The kid is a headcase.

To further back up my point, here are all the points teams allowed KC to score in games they lost over the last 3 years including playoffs 2023: 20 9 17 17 14 2022: 17 20 24 2021: 24 35 24 20 3 31 The bills have beaten KC all three years in the regular season by holding them to 17, 20 and 20 points. They've lost twice in the playoffs giving up 27 and 42 respectively. KC hasn't lost a game where they've scored more than 24 points since 2021. That's how Cincinnati got to the Super Bowl. They didn't do it by dropping 40 on them.

The "facts" you are using don't support your argument. That's the problem. You're trying to say that because they invested in players, that should prove that the strategy is flawed. No one is denying that they've made investments. How many of those players have been playing like all-pros? How many of those players make huge plays that one time you need them to int he playoffs? Certainly not enough of them and I'd argue none of them. Looking at their top 100 picks over the last few years, you'll find few players who are game changers. 2023: Dorian Williams (non-factor thus far) 2022: Kaiir Elam (Bust) Terell Bernard (looks good year 2 but too early to say if he'll be a playoff factor due to injury) 2021: Greg Rousseau (non-impact starter) Boogie Basham (Bust) 2020: AJ Epenesa (terrible for two seasons and then good not great for two. Rotational player) 2019: Ed Oliver (Underachieved most of his career until 2022 season. Non-factor against KC) Notable Recent Free Agent signings/Trades Rasul Douglas (Looked like a beast until the KC game, but was injured and clearly hampered) Von Miller (has been ineffeective/unavailable the last year and a half since injury) Leonard Floyd (Early season beast with 10.5 sacks but only 1 in his final 8 games. Non factor in the playoffs) We Don't have a Chris Jones, Lararius Sneed, or even a George Karlaftis on this team that are there to make the play you need to have. With a healthy Douglas and Milano maybe we aren't that far away but we probably still need a game-wrecker that's better than all of them if you ever hope to stop Mahomes when it matters. The investments that they've made on offense to surround Allen have borne far more fruit: Diggs (top 10+ player every year of his buffalo career. Top 5 prior to this season) Cook (Top 10 weapon out of the backfield) Kincaid (could be a top 5 TE by the end of next season) Gabe Davis (limited player with inconsistencies but still put up big numbers. We needed to upgrade here and we already have) Khalil Shakir (Sophmore season would have been called a breakout if he had more targets. On Affense you have 3 legitimate game breakers in Allen, Diggs, and Cook with Kincaid a high chance to be a 4th and Shakir possibly a step below that. I don't know what you want. I won't turn my nose up at one more weapon, but realistically that's all there's room for there. On defense we can can conceivably upgrade at nearly every position. Now they probably won't try to go and get a Chris Jones or a Fred Warner, or even a Lajarius Sneed, but all of those guys would make our team better than they are right now in a possibly meaningful way. If you can find one guy in the draft that can shut down Kelce, maybe that's all that's missing. If you can find one DL that can bring the extra juice to force Mahomes into a bad decision on 3rd down, maybe that's enough. If you're resigning yourself to "well mahomes is always going to score", then you're already resigning yourself to losing, because Allen isn't that level that's going to score every single time either. He can do it once in a while, like we saw in 13 seconds, and then we still lose because our defense can't stop Mahomes. The math on that looks terrible. KC wins every time Josh doesn't go perfect and they also win every time Josh does go perfect but KC goes last. I already made the point earlier that you casually ignored, but no amount of open receivers against KC completes the 3rd down pass that Josh didn't make that ended the game for us. Even bigger than that, is no amount of WR help there would prevent Mahomes from marching down the field and scoring again (as you are agreeing with me here that he would do) had Josh completed that pass. The right play there was throwing to a wide open Diggs for a first down, running out the clock and scoring without giving KC a chance to win. But that's not how we roll, and until we do, expect the same results.

That's not the argument I'm making and you know it. It's obvious they've invested heavily in defense in the draft. The difference is they've had more success with their investments on offense. They haven't been able to find those difference makers on defense. Von was supposed to be that guy. Douglas looks like that guy, and hopefully Milano can play a game in January sometime, but that's still not enough. Don't move the goalposts.