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Whaley brought up Tre White, Hyde and Poyer.

I think we already saw him arrive last year. It was pretty clear he could handle volume then, he just didn't get it. I really like the kid, and have since we drafted him and I looked into how he played at Boise. Long term, I think he's a #2, but he could be one of those guys viewed like a 1B. With no other competition on the roster, I fully expect him to get at least very close to 1k if not exceed it. It remains to be seen what happens when he goes against #1 CBs instead of #3/#4, but he won't be focused all game.

there's no way I'd give up 5 potential starting players for a top prospect at any position unless it was QB. I'd much rather we just draft 5 WRs and take our shot that one or more of them are good. It's not like top prospects are a sure thing. They bust all the time.

I think we would have won at least 1 super bowl. Frasier/McD's candy ass defense has killed us in the playoffs.

Just tell us you didn't watch Stroud play. He already looks like a guy that's been playing for 5 years. It may not be this year, but I'll be floored if he's not a consensus top 3, if not top 2 QB within the next couple of years.

Of course it does, but he was a role player, and a very good one, just not some all-time elite player that folks make him out to be. He wasn't a top player when he played and he wasn't anywhere near Diggs level. I'm not the one that started this argument but all the folks who insist on turning it into a good thing that our #1 WR is now Curtis Samuel insist on digging the hole deeper. We'll survive without Diggs, but the narrative and agenda being created here is WILD. The whole thing is a joke honestly.

You could have just looked up the stats of his contemporaries. He was never elite even in his day. What got him to Canton was 4 SBs and an extremely long career (16 seasons) with high aggregate stats. During his career his was never higher than 5th in receiving and hit that mark only twice (89 & 94). He was over 1300 yards both of those seasons , but his next two highest are just over 1100 and just over 1k. He was never top 5 in TDs in a season. Andre Rison was a far better play who isnt in the HoF. So is Sterling Sharpe. Henry Ellard was arguably even better.

Well, Beane's track record isn't so great, so not sure I put much faith in him.

That's not the way it works. You have to pay t either way. One way you get something for it, the other way you get nothing. People are acting like he's washed up like Von Miller when he posted top 7-13 stats in every receiving category last year. The non-logic people are using to justify this deal is hilarious.

Good point? You'd have the player on the roster. That's like saying you can save $300 you planned on spending on groceries by lighting $250 on fire and then just not eating. The math only works if you ignore what the values represent.

If Reed didn't play in 4 Super Bowls, he wouldn't have one either. He never even had back to back 1000 yard seasons, only had 4 ever and only hit 10 TDs once in his career. if he played today, he might not be a top 30 player. Meanwhile Diggs has 6 consecutive 1k seasons, 2 seasons of 10+ TDs in 7 fewer seasons. Reed is near the top of the most overrated players of all time.

What a completely unhinged take that willfully ignores reality. Since Diggs got to Buffalo they've had extremely similar production:

The packers got a 1rst and a 2nd for Adams who's as close as comp as you'll get.

Anyone that grades a pick an 'A' where one team gives up a top 7 player at their position, $30M in cap space and two day 3 picks to receive a future 2nd round pick in compensation is delusional. For that to be an A, you'd have to be talking a first round pick or multiple early day 2 picks and a prospect with no other compensation going back the other way.

Or it could have been two seasons from now when his cap hit was meager. This braintrust also has other great contracts on the books like Von Miller. You think it's the "end of the story?" It's just the beginning, and it's not looking good.

Or, it's because you still have to pay for the player you don't have anymore while going out and getting another one. It's money you flushed down the drain with no return. In other words, you could have had Diggs for free had you just kept him and it would have saved you $3m.

Premier? They're gonna be lucky to get the 5th best prospect. They have no pathway to any of the top 3 without giving up 2 firsts and 2 second round picks. Did you like the Sammy Watkins trade, because that'll pale in comparison to what they'll have to give up to get "a premier prospect". Diggs was already a top 5-7 WR int he NFL. You're gambling to get someone even better in the late first?| Great plan.

It's happening because Beane created a hole where there wasn't one. This is NOT something that should be celebrated. Diggs + a Draft pick wasn't the strongest argument for making this team better, but removing Diggs and replacing him with a late first round rookie, makes this team worse in the short term with 100% certainty.

That's officially over. The window is slammed shut until at least 2026 now and that's if they draft a stud in the late first this year.

Reed wasn't half the player Diggs is.

With what money?

I thought this looked like a rebuild year before this trade and now it's 100% confirmed. Absolutely insane roster mismanagement. He might've been the only player left on the team that actually wanted to win a Super Bowl.

I'm not sure what's more wild, the Seahawks QB numbers or the Commanders iOL numbers.

Based on?

That's kind of why everyone is doing this thing, so yea.