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Forrest has been in the league for years and done nothing. I think he's far worse than Hamlin base don what I've read and his production. Hancock is currently a CB they want to convert to safety, so not a real threat to push anyone this year. I missed Ownes, so good catch on that. Significant is a wild overstatement on a guy who's done absolutely nothing in 3 out of 4 NFL seasons, and nothing in 2 years.

Camp body, but still weird to me to bring in an 8th pure DT. The fact that Beane has done basically nothing to increase competition at S is the most perplexing non-move of the offseason to me. I 100% agree with the approach to prioritize the front 4, but I would have brought in a couple UDFAs and brought in some cheap options there that have real potential.

Fitzpatrick, and not close. He's the only guy that could come in off injury (although his presence might ensure the starter has one) and rattle off a string of MVP worthy games, saving a season.

Still the greatest coach in the history of the sport. I wish him no ill will, because I would have cut off fingers to have him be the Bills coach.

We absolutely don't need him but acting like he's washed is silly. He was still a very capable defender last year: https://www.pff.com/nfl/players/jadeveon-clowney/8636 5.5 sacks, 4 Forced Fumbles, 9 TFL, 4 batted passes with a 64% snap count on an atrocious team isn't awful either. He was being paid $10M a year. I think he earned that.

I'd be shocked if the asking price was any lower than 2 1sts. From an in-conference rival who likely will be drafting at the back end of the round, I'd imagine the comp would be quite a bit higher.

They want Rodgers. They wouldn't even be considering that if they weren't in win-now mode. They have a lot of aging veterans, and just traded for Metcalf. Admittedly it's a weird state they're in with the QB. If they can't get Rodger, I'd expect them to make a run at Cousins, or perhaps they'll talk to Tannehill.

How does that logic work?

Pickens was a cancer to the team. Expect them to make a move for a #2. They're in win-now mode. Cooper, Allen, Davis and others are available.

1. Shakir 2. Kincaid 3. Coleman 4. Palmer 5. Cook 6. Johnson 7. Knox 8. Samuel 9. Moore

He'd immediately be no worse than the 2nd best WR on the team. However due to investment, he'd probably slot back in as the 4th. Unfortunately the Samuel cap situation makes it hard to dump him, but he'd be a massive upgrade there. I'd expect Davis to get a shot as a #2 on a needy team.

an inch shorter and 5 lbs heavier will make a guy look bigger. There no way in hell he's 220 at 6'4".

The alternative is retirement. Again,for a 5th round pick, easy gamble. They don't need him to be the guy. If he is and they got him for a 5th? Great! If Sanders sits and does nothing for 4 years in Cleveland, he'll probably have to sign a 1 year $2M deal with some dumpster fire of a team to try to prove himself in his age 27 season. He has absolutely zero leverage left in his career until he proves he's better than the 3rd string QB he is right now.

I don't understand what you're trying to say. It sounds like you're making the argument that his skill wasn't worth the draft pick a team would have to use on him concerning his character. if so, I think that's the consensus among NFL folks. However, I think it also came out that as a player he's not nearly as strong a prospect as others in the draft, so there are also real football concerns. Regardless, It's hard to understand how a 5th round pick could possibly be a meaningful distraction to your football team. He's not going to be getting interviews when he's inactive on game days, and veteran leaders int he lockeroom won't be pushing for him to get starting reps unless he comes out and tears it up. In which case, win for the Browns.

Why do they care how he feels about it? They have a 5th round pick invested in him. They could cut him out of camp and it wouldn't be a big deal. They had a higher grade on Gabriel, so you'd have to assume he's higher on the depth chart right now anyway. He's a rookie - any "noise" he makes would be completely shut down and/or ignored by the vets. This isn't a situation where you brought in competition for a middling vet. The most ikley outcome is Watson to IR, Flacco Starts the year, Gabriel is first man in, and Sanders only sees the field if Gabriel struggles. People are acting like they drafted Sanders in the 2nd or even 3rd. There's absolutely no downside to taking him where they did. His ego is now completely shattered. These trades don't happen much anymore because teams draft QBs that should go in the 4th round in the 1st round these days. The Market is so skewed to QBs that teams will do anything to try to get one, even when they're guys like Kenny Pickett. From the 2020 draft there are 0 QBs on active rosters drafted int he 4th round or later. That's crazy. It's possible that there may be no QBs from the 2021 draft after the 1st round still active int he NFL next year, as rookie contracts expire this year. What his brother said about their Dad representing them probably says a lot.

I was thinking the exact same thing. Follow the old packers model of having a premier backup waiting in the wings on a rookie deal. I think a place like Buffalo owuld have been perfect for Sanders. All the hype could die down, he'd get to learn under an elite offense and just get his reps in. If Allen were to ever be injured for an extended period of time, I'd feel much better about a young player with potential salvaging our season, than a guy like Mitch Trubisky or Mike White. Those guys are ideal for a game or less. At a 5th round pick, you'd be risking very little, and if he showed up in pre-season, you could turn that into a high pick down the road, ala Rob Johnson, Matt Shaub, Mark Brunell, Matt Hasselbeck, etc.

I'd need two of Hairston, Sanders, and Jackson to play like DROY candidates and Bosa to have a career year to get me there. I like just about every change we've made, but we still don't have enough talent to overcome the teams above us, and some of those behind may catch up. I'll be on board in 2026 if we have another draft like this and we bring in key FAs to elevate the team.

What would make you think he's the starter? He has one year of starting experience in 4 seasons, and it was 3 seasons ago. He's a fringe NFL player. If there's a longshot to make the safety squad it has to be him. Hamlin has his limitations, but he's been a FAR more productive play in his career. Hamlin is at worst a #3 safety on most NFL teams. He's without a doubt an NFL talent.

Even if he does play, how excited does that get you? What problem does he fix about our group as a whole? What's a best case scenario?

Our 6th receiver competition is what was keeping you up at night about the WR room?

Cleveland is giving themselves as many kicks at the QB can as they can. I can't fault them for doing it as they clearly understand that without an answer, they are finished before they start. Every team that doesn't have certainty at the position should do the same thing.

I would see it like this: Pre-Suspensions Epenesa - Jones - Oliver - Rousseau - Early downs, high run probability, everyone fresh. Bosa - Sanders - Oliver - Rousseau - Obvious passing downs/gotta have it stops. Jackson is the 4th DE in, if Walker is ready to go and beats out Carter, he'll rotate in as the 4th DT, but I wouldn't expect to see a lot of him if everyone is healthy. Once the suspensions end, a lot will come down to the performance of Jones. If he has struggled at all, expect Ogunjobi to get a real shot at his playing time crack at his playing time. If that were to happen, jones could be bumped back to a reserve role where he plays primarily on short yardage run downs where they could load up on big men. I expect Jackson to become a reserve at this point with Hoecht's return, unless his play demands that he leap Epenesa. Something like: Hoecht - Jones - Ogunjobi - Rousseau and a 5th big man like Sanders/Walker could find their way in there. I will expect Hoecht to play a significant role in the defense lining up at basically every position and doing so often. I wouldn't be shocked to see him as the first guy in at most spots except for Bosa on passing downs. Even though Bosa has been a capable run defender, If their smart, they won't waste him on that when they have younger healthier players that can do it. So basically when everyone is healthy and back from suspension your group looks like Epenesa - Ogunjobi- Oliver - Rousseau - Early downs, high run probability Bosa - Hoecht/Sanders- Oliver/Hoecht - Rousseau - Obvious passing downs/gotta have it stops. I imagine it'll be hard for Jackson or Walker to get a ton of playing time unless we move on from Epenesa/Jones or someone gets hurt. I wouldn't be surprised to see two of Walker, Jones, Ogunjobi inactive on gameday depending on performance because of the flexibility Hoecht gives. In case you haven't figured it out by now, i think the key to the whole defense is Hoecht. He gives us something we've only had very poor versions of over the years, and if he's just getting to his best ball now, it could be the piece that transforms the way our defense works.

It's obvious, and not particularly close: Safety. Not sure how any other position is even in discussion. Punter would be a distant #2, but it's a lot less important.

Taking $21M in dead cap is a nuclear option when you only have to pay the guy an extra $3M to play all year for you. no chance that happens. He has 19 sacks over the last 3 years. Rousseau has 21 and plays a lot more.

He's uncuttable/tradeable until after 2026. I'd be shocked if he doesn't play out his whole deal the way it's structured.