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2 playoff appearances with 0 Super Bowl Championships= 0% 7 playoff appearances with 0 Super Bowl Championships = 0% Unless just getting to the Super Bowl is the goal (which it really shouldn't be for an organization). -------------------- Personally, I'll take the 5 straight division championships and 2 AFC championship appearances and the confidence we'll be at least this good another 5 years over what the Bengals have done and will do. You're praising a team that very well may be firing their head coach.

Why are you throwing 15-20 yards down the field? If you're rushing for 5+ yards a carry, there's absolutely no reason to take high risk plays mailing the ball down the field. Tom Brady won a lot of Super Bowls using guys like Julian Edelman the way the Bills use Shakir.

What defenses play worse when ahead? What defenses have we seen stacking the box against Josh Allen? Tom Brady, Peyton Manning and Patrick Mahomes should have proven to everyone that's ever watched football that you don't win championships in the modern era by throwing the ball all over the field. You do it by controlling the clock, taking what the defense gives you, not turning the ball over, having sound defense, and having the ability to make a couple big plays a game. The whole reason that you want a "strong armed MVP" QB is not so you can throw a football over dem mountains 40 times a game, but so that you can have 100% confidence that for the 1-2 plays you need him to be superman, he will be. The rest of the game, he should be Clark Kent. A lot of those 20+ aren't what we typically think of as "deep balls" either. There's a big difference between 44% and 50% There's a big difference between completing the ball and completing the ball in way that enables YAC We were at the bottom of the league in YAC for most of Josh's career.

The only people talking about WR needs for the Bills are people that aren't employed in football. They're generally doing what they need to do. Would they be better with prime Diggs on the roster? Sure, I talked about the creation of a big hole when they released him. But you don't need elite WRs to win. You need consistency from the full unit. It's so incredibly early in the season that I couldn't be less concerned. Guys will get better as the season goes on. Being able to run the ball and play good defense are far more important things to be showing you can do at this juncture. There might be games where we need to throw it 40+ times down the road, and hopefully by then they'll have figured out how to adapt our scheme to the talent that we have. They have 2 playoff appearances in the last decade and no championships. You want to swap with them?

And how successful would you say that formula has been for Cincy and Dallas? Who was the most important player for the Philly offense last year?

100% Josh has never been a great deep ball thrower. Even many of his big downfield completions have resulted in players having to slow down, reposition, jump for the ball. It's not like watching prime Brady/Rodgers where he hits his man in stride on a Go and he runs the rest of the way in for a TD. On intermediate routes and in the redzone he's deadly, but the whole time people have been clamoring for a "deep threat", I've been wondering what exactly they're expecting us to do with them.

If you say so. Literally could not be less impressed by him so far. He's been a complete JAG so far. Maybe someday he'll average more than 4 catches a game or have 100 yards, but it sure isn't now.

No, it's not what we need according to Beane and McDermott. We haven't tried to fill that type of role with any meaningful attempts at any point in their tenure here. You could argue John Brown had that skillset, but it's not really how we used him. The only people clamoring for that type of receiver are the armchair GMs here.

Who said I'm digging in? You're the one making this a big deal like there was some gross miss on Franklin. Coleman is a part of the puzzle, nothing more. I don't believe for a second he was drafted to be a traditional #1. He was brought in to be the big bodied red zone threat the bills have been coveting for nearly 30 years. Coleman is the guy they drafted to fill that need, and whether or not he's doing it to the level they expect, we can argue about that. Franklin would not be that guy for us, and he'd probably be the 5th WR on the team if he were here. When i say I wouldn't trade for him, it's because he doesn't fill a need we have, he creates a hole, and as a pure talent, there's not much evidence he's any better than Coleman thus far.

Probably not. Franklin was useless last season, and while he's had a slightly better start to the season, most of his production is in 2 games. He hasn't done anything to rise from a 4th round pick to a high 2nd round pick caliber so far. He has two modetsly ok games in his entire career so far, neither above 100 yards. Coleman by contrast has 2 games over 100 yards. I guess I don't see Coleman's limited production as a problem. It looks to me like they're using him how they want to use him. His job is to catch 0-3 important balls a game. I also kind of think that's the way they want to use Josh. Hand the ball off, take the dinks and dunks, and make the big 3rd/4th down play when we need it. The rest of the time, play safe, and hit the open underneath guy. I don't think it's a bad plan, either.

If you want to base your whole opinion off one graph on twitter, I guess DK Metcalf and Tee Higgins stink too.

What is a "borderline 1st"? You could have just said 2nd round pick. He has a long, long way to go for the kind of glazing you're giving him. He just had the best game of his career where he went off for *checks notes*...89 yards.

Troy Franklin? What has he done that's special? He has less production than Coleman.

We already have guys who can run fades and Go routes if we wanted to run them. Why would a 3rd round pick get the nod over vets on the roster?

and yet the Hutch deal seems way more reasonable.

BBQ might be one of the most overrated things about Texas. The amount of self-praise Texans give themselves for something with very little culinary skill involved is ridiculous. Don't get me wrong, it's delicious, but it's just salt, pepper, and smoke.

I like the Chiefs...They're one of the greatest dynasties in the history of the sport. There isn't a player or coach I wouldn't want to have on the Bills (ok, Juwaan Taylor can kick rocks) . Is it annoying losing to them all the time and having to watch them gloat? Sure, but Mahomes doesn't come off to me anywhere near the way Tom Brady did. I have zero animosity for Reid or any other coach on the team. They're a constant reminder of how substantial the difference is between great and elite, even if it looks close game to game.

How is that a need? Jones and Ogunjobi can do that already, and Sanders will be back. Walker, Hoecht, Phillips and Logue will fill in Oliver's job.

It's been my take for a couple years that 2026 is the first real shot we have unless something wonky happens around the league. Baltimore likely missing the playoffs could be considered part of that, and it definitely would have had the Chiefs stayed in the gutter. Now, it seems they're back, so I'm mostly thinking 2026. We did a great job in this years offseason. Walker, Hoecht, and Hawes all look like they'll be big parts of what we're doing. Having a capable DE in Bosa is also proving to be a big upgrade. If Bosa stays healthy, he'll likely want a big raise going into next year, which would be hard to justify. Aside from that though, we should be in good shape. We'll go into next season with gaps at Safety, EDGE and potentially WR. Those are all things we can address in a super bowl run year IMO. Our trenches are mostly set, QB/RB mostly set. WR room has great depth and just missing a finisher. TE room has been reset IMO with the addition of Hawes. If Hairston can play, our CBs are good, and our LBs should be ok enough.

Hawes is the replacement for Hollins, and he's an upgrade.

Allen has definitely been off this year, but I'm not concerned at all. I don't need him, or anyone else, peaking in October. I need him peaking in January and February. Let them work out the kinks now, and if that means winning ugly, that's fine. Right now our offense is going through Cook, and it's outstanding that we have a team that can blow out the opposition when Josh goes 12/19 for 163 yards. There will be days it needs to go through Josh, but we aren't there yet. Honestly, I'm more concerned that we don't have a capable back behind Cook. If he ever gets dinged up, Davis absolutely cannot carry the load. You expect to see a huge dropoff if your QB gets hurt, but Ideally we'd be less fragile at RB.

He was elite yesterday, but you could fill a book with the names of athletes who had great games. The key is doing it all the time over the course of a season and then a career. That's much more rarified air, and not something he's doing yet.

When you turn the ball over 3 times, it's highly unlikely that you win that game. For me, that's the only significant take away from the game. Allen didn't look like himself out there today.

When will that "next coaching staff" be here? 2050? Is this real? I feel like our receivers have been one of the stronger components of our team this year. We're 7th in team passing yards and 2nd in rushing yards. We need defensive help far, FAR more than we need an 8th receiver.

Again, that's a problem with your expectations. We've gotten 6 years of solid production, where we can expect 6 sacks a year out of a late 2nd round EDGE. I think that's a pretty solid return. If you wanted 10+ sacks a year, most of the time you have to target those guys in the top 15 picks. 5 DEs were taken ahead of him in the 2020 draft, and he's outperformed 4 of them.