BullBuchanan

He could either be a part time realtor right now or a HOF QB with hundreds of millions of dollars at 46. Seems like a very good trade. Where can I sign up?

They switched offensive philosophy after winning the first one?

It's a shame he took the bag with the Jets instead of going to a decent organization. He was just a shade under a Hall of Fame caliber player in his prime with the Ravens.

Moss went on to perform well with Indy. Great, so see my original point that having Cook here on a deal deal wasn't a significant difference maker, and now add in the opportunity cost of losing out on other players due to his increased cap hit. The only way paying cook makes sense is if other players on cheap deals around him step up the point where we have no real holes, and maintaining the status quo at RB is the optinal move vs gambling on the draft or trading for/signing a better player.

Did you read what you just wrote or what I wrote? Singletary is MILES above guys like Damien Harris (out of football), Justice Hill, and Myles Gaskin(13 carries in the last 3 years). Which one of those guys would you have preferred? In 2020 when the bills drafted Moss, you could have had your pick of: Darrynton Evans Joshua Kelley Lamical Perine Anthony McFarland DeeJay Dallas Jason HuntleyLions Eno BenjaminCardinals Raymond Calais Which one of those guys did you want? Moss has had a better career than any of them, and it's not close. For a guy that spends as much time analyzing the draft as you do, it's odd to me how unaware you are of the value of 3rd round plus RBs No team has reliably done that in the last decade. Why would you expect Beane to reliably hit on a 10% (or less) chance? How does paying a guy already on your roster a big raise help you "win now"? I like Palmer, but I think they grossly overpaid for him. Still, he adds value that wasn't here before. Does James Cook? Maybe they think having a Saquon/Henry type makes more sense than having a Cook type back.

That's a wildly unreasonable expectation. Looking at draft history, you're lucky to get 2 starting caliber players from rounds 3+, and both Singletary and Moss were that. In Singletary's class in 2019, 20 RBs were drafted after him and only one, Tony Pollard, has been better. In Moss' class in 2020, 8 RBs were taken after him and he's the best of that group. 90%+ of the time you're getting an RB that is a career backup when you draft in the 3rd+ in the last 10 years. They don't put up the 150+ yard games that both Singletary and Moss have. Make no mistake, I'm not saying they're great, but you're grossly misrepresenting their ability and achievements in comparison to their peers. https://www.drafthistory.com/index.php/positions/rb

As do I, and that's a point I was trying to make. You don't need a player to make a given play most of the time, if he can be as effective in totality. How? What exactly are you expecting of 3rd round players? Both of those guys have started in this league and have had monster games from time to time. Not sure what more you're looking for there.

I didn't realize he was making over $5m This year. I knew his entire rookie deal was under $6M so not sure how he got such a big raise. I could understand how you might think my credibility would suffer if I said singletary was a "reasonable substitute" for cook. I guess It's a good thing I never said that then. I disagree. Watch the highlight clip I shared at 0:34. It's a similar play that Singletary scores on.

https://www.buffalobills.com/video/devin-singletary-s-best-plays-from-his-two-touchdown-game-wild-card-weekend His two touchdown plays were great here. Maybe people think that James cook play was more special than I do. It wouldn't crack my top 50 and I'm not certain it would crack my top 100 runs of the year across the league. If I'm not a Bills fan, it's just a nice play assisted by the safety dropping his head. See, i don't even advocate paying him 10 when you can get that talent on a rookie deal for $1-2M. A lot of folks around here believe that we would have wont he SB in 2021 had we beaten KC. if that had come to pass, Devin Singletary would have been our starting RB. having James Cook hasn't been the thing that put us over the edge. He's not that big of a difference by himself.

You do realize the whole discussion is about him asking for $15M and us talking about if the Bills should give him that? No, it isn't each of those players are capable of amazing plays and monster games and have done so. I'm not taking a thing away from Cook. It was a great football play, but that's exactly what is was - a football play. It wasn't a "James Cook" play the way that Derrick Henry stiff arming someone into oblivion is.

What is it about that play that distinctly James Cook? It's a great football play, but I don't think there's any particularly unique skill that he has that enabled him to do that. It's not like it's a signature move. Could I see Singletary or Moss making that play? Absolutely. I could see Ty Johnson making it too. Derick Henry? Probably not. He'd just run straight through the guy instead. There are a lot of ways RBs can add value above replacement without having to replicate a given play, too. Maybe Barkley scores on 1st down, so you don't even need to have a hero pitch. If you look at the top 15 backs int he league, there's a ton of talent there. I don't think Cook does anything terribly special to stand atop most os them. There's also a new crop of rookies that will likely insert themselves in that group too. As for what I'd do with the money, I'd spend it on basically any other position but RB or special teams. We'll likely need to make a serious investment at safety next year, whether that's in the 1st/2nd round or FA. The same goes for EDGE, and possibly WR. Maybe Elijah Moore resurrects his career and we want to keep him? The only way I'm giving a RB $15M a year is if he can carry the entire team on his back with Trubisky under center.

so you're supporting paying a guy 6-8 x more than hes making right now, when he's not contributing enough to put us over the edge on a sub $3M deal? That just makes it harder to take the next step. there are 15-20 guys that could give us what James Cook is giving us. Here's good - very good even, but he isn't special. He's replaceable, and I'd sooner draft another couple guys + bring in some UDFAs and find fresh legs than pay a hefty second contract to an RB. There are far bigger priorities.

The analysis of the current market and strategy I agree with, but blowing all that money on Cook isn't leveraging the inefficiency of the market correctly. Letting cook walk and signing someone like JK Dobbins who averaged 4.6 YPC last year for 2.4M would be leveraging inefficiency in the market. Similarly signing Nick Chubb to a 2.5m deal also would have been the same. The whole idea is to get value. Cook as the 4th highest paid RB will never be value.

$500 is absolutely nothing, so Super Bowl for sure. $5k, $10k same thing. That said, I've gotten so conditioned to them not winning it, that I might as well have the money. It would have to be enough to get something decently cool though. I'd say $100k, but if you twist my arm, I'd probably take less.

Get er done BBB!

Trade for what? A swap of 2028 conditional 7ths?

He basically hasn't played since 2022, so hopefully he's well rested?

And that tied an all-time record for the school's 135 year football history, and represents 20.5% of all active OSU players in the NFL. Best not to use statistical extremes to make your point.

I didn't, and you changed a variable to "starting" to try to disprove my point. Even using your preferred metric, 82% of Ohio State's starting lineup is future salesman or Amazon delivery drivers. Maybe that's actually worse than 95% of the entire roster. And that would be an incorrect thing to think. 7 total Ohio State players "got a chance" in the NFL. (4 on active roster). None had their rights drafted by the UFL. Steele Chambers (what a name), is the lone member of the Ohio State 2024 class currently in the UFL. That's 5 players across two leagues.

I expect him to be released to make room for Heocht and Ogunjobi after week 6.

Ohio State has 4 players from their 2024 roster currently on active NFL rosters. They had 105 players on their roster. 96.2 percent of them are not on active rosters. I'll listen to an argument that some of that 96% are construction workers instead of salesman, but that's closer than being NFL players.

positively ridiculous. The worst UFL team would blow out Ohio State. Most college teams are made up of 95% future salesman. At least these guys are playing pro ball.

You absolutely do not. I've been at this as long as it's existed and worked in the TV provider industry.

No it isn't.