BullBuchanan

That's true of just about every player. It's not a reason to extend people to big money.

How many championships have they won since then?

Why would they look smart? According to the report, they're paying him top RT money. If you're just going to hand out a massive contract, you could do it on a proven commodity instead of betting on hope. If they gave him a long term deal with middling numbers, I could argue that being a move where they could look smart. With a top money deal, you can only be wrong, because the numbers make the assumption you're right.

I don't think either one of those things are true. They both got top money at the time. Every year contracts go up so previous ones move down in total value. Oliver was most definitely an overpay as he's just now starting to be valued appropriately compared to his peers imo. There aren't a lot of players making more than him that he's clearly better than. Allen was made the second highest paid player of all time with the most amount of guarantees of all-time. Time passing doesn't make it a better deal, as the same thing will happen to guys that sign bigger deals this year.

"shows Buffalo values him as one of the top right tackles in the NFL" yikes.

Of course he's going to the Hall of Fame. He's a two time MVP. If he retired today he'd be in. He was the best player on the field today. Does he have limitations as a passer? Absolutely. That doesn't make him a poor QB - he just plays the position differently, much like Vick and Cunningham before him. That said, I wouldn't choose him over Allen, Burrow, and probably 5 other guys, but he's absolutely an elite talent.

eat all that dead cap for the 6th round pick you'd likely get? No thanks. Let him stay and be our #2. Just a terrible contract.

They traded for a replacement a few hours ago. Not surprising after that.

Is "processing" a thing you want to work on in the NFL when it's this raw? Send him to Canada. The NFL has a graveyard of players that could sling a ball 50 yards but couldn't handle the mental part of the game. Give me the guy with the football IQ who's a lesser athlete ever time.

I don't think it's strictly a scenario where they put two hands on the ball and gift it to a defender for the top end of the WR roster (kincaid, Shakir, Knox, Samuels). I will be shocked if there isn't a healthy amount of WR mistakes where they take unexpected angles, run the wrong routes, try to catch balls that are intended for other players and despite not being in optimal positions to catch the ball still make contact and pop it up. There will also be bang-bang plays where balls pop up in the air after contact. I'm also expecting the kinds of plays that make QBs look horrible where they throw it right into a defender's hands because the receiver ran the wrong route. I hope I'm wrong of course, but I have very little faith in this receiving group.

With this group of WRs? He's going to have at least 5 bounce off of hands, and a few pick sixes as a result. I wouldn't be shocked if he sets a career worst.

Most WRs don't peak until the end of their first deal, and you have to gamble $15m/year on a guy that is more likely than not going to be bust that never does anything, so not sure it's going to make much difference. I'd argue it'll be a battle between teams going for a high end #1 and a bunch of scrubs vs teams that build a comittee style approach, until the roster meta changes and some new position is the in-demand one. I've never been super impressed by Lamb. He had a massive year at the perfect time, but I don't see him as the type of X factor that will win you games by himself the way I'd want a guy making over 13% of the cap to be.

No it isn't. Mahomes' regular season accolades put him on top of everyone except Rodgers, but he's clearly a shadow of himself. If you want to talk just regular season though, Josh probably gets bumped down below Jackson based just on accolades. I personally wouldn't take Jackson over him, but it's hard to discount when Josh's best accomplishment is one 2nd-team all-pro node and 2 pro bowls in 6 years.

I agree that Mahomes is alone is Tier 1. The proof is in the pudding. I say this as a guy who argued Manning and Brady were both in tier 1, until it became ridiculous to argue anyone was in Brady's tier. Allen and Burrow I'd put in Tier 2 and as of right now, they're the only ones there. I could easily see Stroud joining them this year if he builds even a little on what he did last year. To me, the "6-8 guys" are a tier below those guys. Talking guys like Herbert, Jackson, possibly Rodgers, Love, Goff, Purdy, Stafford,Hurts, etc.

I honestly thought he retired years ago. Good for him.

I use IPTV for $10/mo instead.

and they would love that. they've been pumping him up non-stop despite his consistent Zach Wilson-esque play

He's so small. That's a massive disadvantage in any fight. He absolutely would have a massive skill advantage against me but he would be giving up a lot of reach (~75"), height (maybe 6"?) and weight( Lol probably 60?), not to mention age. If I let him get close he's got the edge, but size definitely matters. If it's a sanctioned match, I probably still lose due to skill, but a streetfight? I'll take that bet.

cook at 9th overall?

We've downgraded at both Center and left Guard as of now, if camp reports about McGovern's struggles are to be believed. I wasn't at all opposed from moving on from Morse, but the lack of planning there was ridiculous. As for WR, We lost our top 2 receivers from last year and replaced them with our #3 and a rookie. Those 2 WRs + Shahkir accounted for 2500 yards and 17 touchdowns. Shakir's best year so far is 600 yards and 2 TDs nad Samuel is 850 and 5 TDs. Let's say Shakir hits 1000 yards and Samuel bests his career. You're still looking for a 10 TD improvement. That is massive. To date JA has not only been an elite QB for us, but he's been our best skill position player with 15 rushing touchdowns last year alone. He doesn't have much room to increase that number (which is far above his average), so if that comes down at all, those scores will have to be absorbed somewhere else. Who is going to do that? The rookie? Mack Hollins? Maybe Dalton Kincaid adds 4 - you're still down 6. This is of course forgetting that last years team wasn't anywhere near the top 4 teams. We don't just need to hit last year's level, we need to surpass it. I love what I've seen out of Shakir so far, but if you want to act like he's going to combine with Samuel for 2000 yards and 20TDs, you might as well just write these posts in crayon. my prediction: Shakir 850/6 Samuel 650/5 Kincaid 950/5 Allen returns to the mean with 9 rushing TDs Bills win 10-11 games thanks largely to divisional dominance and my prediction for a soft NFC west outside of the 49ers. They falter again in January and don't make it past the divisional round as they look outclassed against the Texans or Chiefs.

You have like 20 of these copium threads every year and your "predictions" never come to fruition. Probably because they aren't based in reality. Both Kincaid and Shakir should take a step forward this year, but even with a very significant one, we'll still have far, far less talent on offense than we did last season.

That's pretty extreme. I'm very down on the Bills this year, but I Think it'll be nearly impossible for them to get less than 9 wins. I think you can write down 10 wins based on our schedule without worrying too much: AZ,MIA,JAX,NYJ,TEN,SEA,MIA,IND, NE, NE. The Rams should be a win too, so even if they lose one of those that they should win, like MIA, JAX or IND, they'll still hit 10. We should absolutely sweep NE, history says we sweep MIA, and we should split with the Jets. That's 5 and SEA, TEN, AZ are dumpster fires which brings us to 8. The Rams are long in the tooth and lost their biggest weapon, while Jacksonville chronically underachieves.

My interest is also down, and part of that is expectations. For the first time since I was old enough to crawl I haven't watched any of the Bills pre-season games, because I feel like there's nothing I really need to see. I'm not even pumped about the regular season, because for us, it's meaningless. Our season starts in January, and unfortunately I haven't seen the team do anything to address our quick ends to "our season" from the last few years. Despite me being extremely bearish on our WR room, our pass rushers and defensive playmakers in general, I fully expect the Bills to be one of the top 7 teams in the AFC. I really don't care at all if they're #1 Seed or #7. If it has that much bearing on their post-season success, that's another problem. I'm not sure It's debatable that this is our weakest roster since at least 2018, and it may be worse because there is so very little elite talent on this squad.

Some might argue it "quietly" looks better.

I actually like Sam Howell a lot, but as a starting quarterback, he offers you basically the same thing that QBs 20-64 do. Any of them can win a game on a given day, but you never know what day that will be. Through my life I've seen runs put together by guys like Bruce Gradkowski, Shane Matthews, Case Keenum, Colt McCoy, and even Frank Reich. And then the very next time they played they were so awful it looked like they had no business in the league. What makes backups backups, is that you never know which version you're going to get. Maybe, if we need him, we'll get the Trubisky who scored 6 TDs to 0 ints for a 154.8 passer rating, or maybe we'll get the guy who played in Pittsburgh last year. There's no way to know and there's probably 25 or more teams in the league that have the same problem.