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the same Andre Reed who had 4 1000 yard seasons and none back to back, and only hit 10 TDs once in a 16 year career despite being healthy, having Jim Kelly throwing to him for 12 of them and starting for the overwhelming majority of it?

yea, maybe the last pick in the draft is good on his own merit. Maybe Daniel Jones is too.

my point is that Shanahan is the likely reason why Purdy is good. He's proven it year after year. At every job he's had, he's led QBs to career years including guys like Brian Hoyer, RG III, Matt Ryan, Nick Mullens, CJ Breathard, Jimmy Garoppolo and came just a hair short of his best with Rex Grossman.

Yes, I am well aware that there are "several". There have been maybe 5 of them over ~60 years if you don't count QBs who had great runs the year they won it all with otherwise average or up and down careers. These 5 were all paired with elite defenses with 4 of them being historically good (85 bears, 91 Giants, 00 Ravens, 02 Bucs). Statistically untrue. Of the top 20 NFL passers of all time 15 of them were taken in the 1st round and only 2 were taken after the 3rd (Brady and Moon). There is overwhelming data that says the early rounds of the draft will yield the best QBs. That doesn't mean you can't be great if you're drafted later, but it does mean it's far less likely.

Absolutely. Last years Bills lost too many games, but they also dismantled opponents the way this squad hasn't. We lost our games close this year, yes, but we also won most of them close too. This year's squad has routinely played down to their opponent, imo. Because he's not good enough to play here. Who would you sit to play him? The only reason he's getting reps in NY, is because they have the weakest receiving group in the league. And they play like it regardless of who they play at QB. You're acting like this isn't the NFL where QB isn't more important than the rest of the roster combined.

You're way off on the strength of a lot of these teams.

Nah that's all a really big mischaracterization of what happened. There was talk Daniel Jones wouldn't make it through, because he previously wasn't any good, and now he's turned it around. If the talent wasn't there, he wouldn't have been the 1st QB off the baord. Daboll got that out of him and that's to be commended, but he started with good raw materials. As for Brock Purdy, it's yet to be determined if he's Tom Brady or Nick Mullens. You make it sound like winning games with your #1, #2, and #3 int he NFL isn't a miraculous feat. This isn't Bama. Most NFL teams don't have 1 legitimate talent, yet Shanahan throughout his career has put together great offenses and big seasons despite never having a great QB. I think doing it with a rookie #3 this year cements that legacy that he can win with just about anyone. Obviously they have more talent, but they also have the results to match. The giants mostly puttered through the regular season winning close games. The 49ers on the other hand dismantled team the way the Bills did last year. I think that's more impressive. It's one thing to win, but it's another entirely to roll. The 49ers had the same talent level the last 2 years and didn't roll like this. Daboll may win it, and that's ok. He did an AMAZING job. Shanahan was just better.

Daboll still has a 1st round Qb and #2 overall RB. Shanny did it with Mr irrelevant. QB is everything in the NFL and Kyle Shanahan changed the rules. He'll win with whatever dude is sleeping on your couch.

If Seattle doesn't go 3-5 over their last 8, he probably gets more credit. As it stands I think he's in the argument for 3rd behind Daboll. NYG's cupboard was bare, and the Seahawks still had a lot of talent outside QB, including a possible OROY.

Daboll was the lock until Brock Purdy came along. To storm into the playoffs as a SB favorite with your 3rd string QB is an all-time great accomplishment. I don't know if anyone can stop SF right now. Daboll's story of turning around a ***** team and taking NYG to the playoffs for the first time in 6 years with the exact same talent they had last year when they went 4-13 is awesome, but Shanahan is writing a story that will get him to the HoF this season. McD isn't even on the board for me. The bills were supposed to roll this year, and instead they mostly limped through. Props for showing heart and winning tough games, but they made most of it look way harder than they should have. Maybe they'll have enough gas in the tank to still win it all, but they were a much more impressive looking team in each of the past two years than they were this year from my perspective.

I like plenty of other QBs more than Brady, but this is just blind nonsense. If you're picking any other player besides Brady in his prime, you're objectively wrong. He has more Super Bowl wins than the following franchises combined: New York Jets Chicago Bears Philadelphia Eagles Los Angeles Rams Seattle Seahawks Buffalo Bills Minnesota Vikings Atlanta Falcons Carolina Panthers Cincinnati Bengals Arizona Cardinals Tennessee Titans Los Angeles Chargers Cleveland Browns Jacksonville Jaguars Detroit Lions Houston Texans

I really like PFF, but without explanation of the model used here I'm highly incredulous. Minnesota was ***** awful on offense - everybody saw it. Additionally, San Francisco dominated and looked highly polished. The Giants played well above their standard and the Jags were magnificent in the 2nd half and atrocious in the first. Based on watching the games, I would have expected a model that would have resulting in ranking more like: SF DAL NYG BUF JAX SEA BAL CIN MIN MIA LAC

He's the greatest player in the history of the sport. I don't see that changing when he retires.

Never. It's the best sport in the world by miles and miles.

Neither.

The guy is 36. He'd be insane to step away now. He's got another 30 years to go.

those sacks were all in garbage time.

Hodgins is exactly where he should be - a desperation down-depth chart guy for a fringe team. I like him, but there's really no scenario that would have amounted to meaningful snaps in Buffalo. He simply doesn't offer a skillset that would have provided long term value here. Same with Blackshear - especially while Moss was still on the roster.

I don't disagree Hill was deserving.

Adams had 1500 yards playing for the Raiders including 6 games where he had 4 or fewer catches. That's no small feat. I too think that second spot could have gone to a number of other qualified WRs, but he certainly was a massive producer.

The anti-Romo crowd is the worst. He's the best color guy in football and it's not even remotely close. That you'd rather listen to John Murphy call the most boring game possible is ridiculous.

https://www.si.com/nfl/draft/news/2023-nfl-draft-trenton-simpson-declares-for-draft

like Any rookie there would be ups and downs. I imagine there would be mental mistakes, but his ferocious hitting, run defense, pass rush ability and coverage skills would likely compensate.

That's because we have extreme depth at DT, Had very good depth at S, and have no depth at MLB. If the plan was to replace Edmunds with Dodson, you'd be right, but that wouldn't be the plan.

If this is his "full" potential, It's not half as good as it needs to be.