oldmanfan

I get it. The people that misinterpret stats don't.

I look at the individual player. Allen has potential for a second year guy with things to learn. Comparing him to someone like a Brees is useless.

How can you compare when you have different offensive schemes with different receivers and different O lines with different protection abilities and different QBs with different levels of experience? People oversimplify stats all the time around here. Football is multivariate; any individual stat has to take a host of variants into the equation. Allen needs to learn more about reading defenses, taking the short throw, etc. A veteran like Brees has a higher percentage because of many factors. You want a stat that is truly mathematical? If a guy like Allen throws 30 passes and completes 2 more (rather than throws 2 away) he hits the 60% overall completion rate everyone keeps claiming is so critical.

Too bad.

Well, I could bring up Kemp vs. Lamonica. One constant in the history of Bills fans is the backup QB is always considered better than the starter. There were even some folks who wanted Reich over Kelly.

Always enjoyed his work. Hope he enjoys retirement.

It's possible if Singletary tears it up in camp. Very unlikely but possible. I don't think there's any any Gore leaves; I think they want him in the room with Allen to impart wisdom.

I recall those days vividly. John Rauch was a moron. Probably a good thing the Internet wasn't around then.

I hear you. I could be on here complaining about Joe Collier but not much point to that. Sometimes I think there should be some kind of statute of limitations on complaints

They made their choice. You have choices too.

Dareus is not better than Star. The old Dareus before he got the big money and decided not to put forth the effort was. And your comparison to teaching is completely bizarre - by law parents had to send their kids to your class. No NFL law says a team has to keep a player. As for Taylor and Peterman, if they would have kept Taylor it would have cost them tens of millions, knowing it was him keeping the seat warm till Allen took over. Did Peterson stink? Yes - one of the mysteries of all Bills history is why he showed well in practice and stunk in games. Beane admitted they should have gotten another veteran in earlier when they dumped McCarron (who showed nothing I his time with the Bills and broke his leg to boot). Yes, they made a mistake. Here's the thing you have to reconcile in your mind. The Bills have a plan they are carrying out. You don't like it. Fine, good for you. Criticize all you want, but at least have some logic to some of what you post. You don't like being criticized, but you open yourself up to it constantly. Last year had to do with the cap hit they took and the playing of rookies at the two main leadership positions on offense and defense. I agree they need to show improvement this year, but keep things in perspective.

We get where you're coming from. You don't like the approach they're taking, so everything they do is wrong. Which is fine, but you then lump the current management with previous regimes, talk about how Pegula is just money hungry and so on. You are not being crucified any more than the person you are criticizing (like me) is being criticized. So you may just want to get off your high horse. Some of the teams you mention (such as the Rams) have retooled, but to do so they are going all in on a fairly narrow window. When Goff gets his big payday, they are going to have to shed other guys at other positions, and they have traded away a lot of draft picks to load up for the window they now have. if that gets them a title, good for them. But long term they could be headed for trouble. Beane and McDermott have a different plan. They want to build something that is not only competitive but sustainable over the long term. To do that, one of the things Beane wanted to absolutely get control of was his cap situation. They did not want to be saddled with expensive cap hits for guys like Dareus or Watkins that they did not see as guys that would be part of the kind of sustained success they wanted. So they took the hit, and now they are in the position to use the cap dollars hey have on the guys they see as worth the $$. That is their plan. Yes, you may not like the plan, I get that. But let's see how the plan plays out. They now have their your leaders on both sides of the ball in Allen and Edmunds, and their continued development will be key. They have other fairly young solid pieces in guys like Milan, White (who is just as good if not better than Gilmore IMHO), Hyde and Poyer, Dawkins as examples. You wanted them to keep what Rex had put together? really? I'll give you Watkins, I would still like to have him. But Dareus? Taylor? Come on now.

And Star is the walrus

This is just too good.

Accuracy is different than precision. Look back through my older posts for an explanation or google the dartboard explanation.

Coaches have personal lives that should be out of bounds for this kind of commentary. No one knows what kind of hell he and his family have gone through. His coaching record is fair game though - I honestly don't get the love affair over him as a HC.

But Sammy hasn't exhibited that talent level consistently. I am not saying Jones is the same caliber athletically as Sammy. But he can be a good #2 or #3, yet folks here wanted to give up on him year one. Why is that? Why is it that when guys are on other teams they get the benefit of the doubt but when they have on a Bills uni they don't?

Cook was a very promising young Qb for the Bengals, whose career got short circuited by injury. Not surprising Brown didn't know him. Dennis Shaw on the other hand.....

Because Russ Brandon knows the business end of a sports franchise, and not the paying end. He never had any business around decisions about football (that was Ralph and I suspect Littman ), never should have had input into coaching decisions, etc. But the guy knew the marketing and business ends of pro sports teams. You honestly can't really be trying to equate the business side with the playing side, right? I mean you can't really think those correlate in any way, right?

I don't think you meant to do this, but your post here demonstrates the hypocritical nature of some fans. Here's Sammy (who, again, I wish we would have kept) going into I believe his sixth season (maybe 5th). His career has not been anywhere near what he and others had hoped, due a lot to injury bout also due to less that the outstanding performances everyone expected from him out of college. Yet you're indicating his time will come, the book isn't completed, and such. And I agree with that. But if we are to do so with Sammy, why then do we have posts declaring that we need to give up on a Zay Jones? Why do we have a thread about when to pull the plug on Allen this coming season, his second season in a very difficult position, when he showed such promise last year. Why should we have patience for other teams' players but not our own?

Well stated

And sometimes it's a wake up call that helps the next team, when the player gets he needs to straighten up.

To catch up on a few things: 1. I wish we still had Sammy, but Sammy also admitted his attitude sucked. Like it or not that doesn't work with our management. And his production does not merit the huge contract. 2. Reid and MacVay know offense but neither have proved they are great HCs. MacVay has time, but Reid has one SB loss and several playoff losses as a HC. I don't get the mad love for Reid, much like I don't get Marv being a HOFer.

If he loses the locker room it would warrant looking elsewhere. But that's not going to happen.

A couple was used in a general sense, and I indicated the blowouts concern me as far as coaching. And like it or not the league measures wins and losses. Anything else?