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No my opinion is that the bills are not far off from winning a super bowl This team with Josh Allen can certainly win a super bowl and they can beat the Chiefs The Chiefs built a great team while they already had Alex Smith... Patrick mahomes inherited a pro bowl roster The bills lucked into the playoffs the first year of McDermott... With great coaching also... Then gutted the roster in Allen's rookie year... Allen's roster wasn't capable of winning in big games till year 3... Mahomes went to a roster capable of winning big games So mahomes went to a roster capable of winning... Allen got a gutted roster where people here said worst wide receiver core in bills history with no line ... Then said play ball And we certainly are capable of beating the Chiefs now

Go back and reread what I just reposted... I edited it with a clearer post Kansas City was obviously bad when they hired Reid... They were not 17 years no playoffs of futility ... The bills were considered the joke of the NFL before McDermott He also lost in the wild card or divisional for years with the Chiefs... He did not instantly turn them around to super bowl... By the time he got mahomes they were stacked with two Hall of famers on offense

The point is Sean McDermott went to a team that didn't go to the playoffs for 17 straight years It takes time to build a contender... You don't go from no playoffs in 17 years to the super bowl overnight... The team realistically wasn't ready to contend in the playoffs until Josh Allen's third year... Sean McDermott was overachieving before then and already reached the playoffs twice We're just starting to get Sean McDermott's full vision.. you can't create a full NFL vision in 3 years... Andy Reid had a head start on a franchise that was not as big as a perennial loser... And then even bowed out 4 straight times in the wild card or divisional round with the Chiefs It took him time to get past the divisional with Kansas City... By the time he had mahomes he had a stacked roster with two Hall of famers on offense...

Well I quoted you and it only said Chase's deal.. to which I thought it was Chase claypool ... I'm just skimming the last page And then you were comparing Chase.. to Coleman and Samuel and shakir Other bills players so rightfully I thought you were comparing our new Chase to our other players... I'm not reading replies of replies and as I said I did not even go back three pages I was just reading the last page and some replies and yours caught my attention... Saying J'marr would have instantly clear it up and I would have known what you were talking about I certainly agree Jmarr Chase is better than anybody we have

Yeah but it's circumstances... Andy Reid could have won a super bowl in Philadelphia... They fired him and won with a lesser head coach and a worse quarterback than what he had in Philadelphia I certainly thought Andy Reid was elite before Kansas City Winning a super bowl takes as much luck as it does a talented team It's not x + y = super bowl Half of this board thinks we were destined to win the super bowl if 13 seconds didn't happen lol so if everybody thought we were destined to win.... Why not keep the coach with one of the best winning percentages in the NFL... If we lose in the wild card sure get rid of him Well I speak on my phone so any grammar errors are my phone not picking up me speaking I know how to spell bengals.. which I just had to type out

People here are acting like where the University at Buffalo trying to beat Alabama crimson Tide lol Yeah that's never going to happen.... Any professional football team could win any Sunday... They are all filled with the best The margin of talent in the NFL is very slim... And we're at the top of the NFL consistency for the last four or five years... You're absolutely right it's very narrow and the people who are disagreeing with that are just not willing to see

I'm not reading 12 pages of dialogue bro I'm on the last page and we just signed Chase claypool and people are talking about Chase.... Maybe if you said J'marr , I obviously would have recognized

Well we know he didn't win one in Philly.. but he certainly had the coaching chops to do it And there have been plenty of worst quarterbacks then McNabb to win a super bowl... It just shows the Stars didn't align in Philly which is my point... Why didn't Dan Marino win a super bowl and he's the greatest passer ever? It takes a lot more than just a quarterback and a coach It takes an entire roster 1 through 52... Andy Reid was good enough to win a super bowl in Philadelphia the Stars just didn't align... If McDermott gets fired and he wins a super bowl before the bills ... Is he unfireable? No ... I would get rid of him if we didn't make the playoffs

I understand he didn't win in Philly... But nothing about his coaching changed when he went to Kansas City It takes a mixture of skill preparation and luck to win a super bowl He was good enough to do it in Philly... Stars didn't align... They fired him for a worse coach... Who won a super bowl Then reid goes off and wins three... Now does he win three if he stays in Philly? No it doesn't work like that But he always had it... He didn't magically get better in Kansas City The Stars just aligned... He did not become a savant magically when he left

With Tyreek Hill and Travis Kelce... Two Hall of famers .. and Smith was playing at his peak Two Hall of famers... And Alex Smith was good... He just wasn't a superstar in San Francisco He was solidly a game manager though... And athletic... He's way better than Brock purdy who is on a stacked roster Andy Reid has had Alex Smith Donovan McNabb and Patrick mahomes... All of those guys are better than the NFC super bowl quarterback in Brock purdy lol There's almost 20 pro bowls combined between those guys And it always takes two to tango... Reid wasn't going to make Nathan Peterman look good Alex Smith isn't getting on Hall of Fame ballots in 4 years.. Donovan McNabb does

Alex Smith was a top pick lol NFL scouts thought he was better than Aaron Rodgers coming out ... And he never led the league in touchdown per game.. like Donovan McNabb did twice... The bills also would have killed for a quarterback like Alex Smith before Josh Allen lol there's a reason why Andy Reid wanted him he's a really good game manager

That's besides the point You don't need Allen or mahomes to win a super bowl... It takes 1 through 52 a true team Nick foles won and is a backup... Donovan McNabb is much better... The Bills lost to a backup in the super bowl... The 49ers just went to a super bowl with a quarterback who is not even pro bowl level On the flip.. Dan Marino .. who throws the best football of any quarterback I've ever seen never won a super bowl Mahomes went to a team that was already built... Josh went to a team that was building That's the difference in their first 4-5 years.. mahomes went to a really good team Josh went to a team of castoffs... McDermott has done nothing but good things with the bills

Andy Reid was considered at the same level of Donovan McNabb when he was fired He was considered really good but not good enough to get over the edge ... he was not considered top 3 That was what people thought of Andy Reid That is 100% what the league thought of Andy Reid when he was fired... Really good.. couldn't get over the hump... Secondly, Nick foles won a super bowl... The Bills lost to a backup in the '90s in the super bowl Donovan McNabb is 100% good enough to win a super bowl and better than some super bowl winners The Bangles certainly pushed us around more in the playoffs then the Chiefs ever did Besides the AFC championship game.. where the bills were manhandled... It was also the first real playoff run for the bills Andy Reid couldn't win for 12 years with Philadelphia in the big one

So you don't think 13 seconds was close either.... What about mahomes having his worst winning percentage against the Buffalo Bills? We've been decimated with injuries when we play them in playoffs

The eagles before drafting Donovan McNabb only made it past the divisional war round once in their entire history McNabb helped lead them to a super bowl and four straight NFC championship games... Led the NFL in total offense per game twice Led the NFL in total touchdowns per game once Had the best interception percentage in a season in NFL history before it was broken in the modern era... Has 37,000 yards and 240 touchdowns... Fifth most rushing yards all time by quarterback Anybody who is trashing those numbers probably think a football is stuffed with feathers It always takes two to tango so I don't want to hear about Andy Reid... Donovan McNabb was really good He might not be the best... He certainly was towards the top when he was healthy

He also got Allen on a team went to the playoffs once in 17 years prior... The organization was a mess from top down The Chiefs organization has always been considered very well run... They were going to the playoffs before us because they had a roster built for it Sean McDermott gutted our roster the first year and rebuilt it from the bottom up and has turned us into an NFL contender year in and year out Point stands Donovan McNabb has always been really good... Again does this board only think you're good if you're a Hall of famer? He certainly is one of the best quarterbacks ever not in the Hall of Fame and I would take him over Eli Manning who somebody else's arguing for lol Nobody would say he is Point stands... He's a good enough quarterback to win a super bowl... And Andy Reid couldn't with him He needed somebody that they call baby goat .. an anointed football player He couldn't win with really good We we're winning at halftime LOL You can count on one hand the amount of times Josh's lost by double digits in the last 3 years on one hand hahahaha And the point of the matter is we didn't lose by double digits we lost by three

We aren't far from beating them in the playoffs lol We went to Arrowhead where we were winning with 13 seconds left.. and the team collapsed.. that's as close as you can be to winning Last year Tyler bass was taking a field goal to tie the game with 2 minutes left... Again super close We were not far... That's literally one or two plays from winning

He did go on the injury report for a back injury the week after getting suplexed

He entered the league before Alex Smith and rivers and Stafford and Rodgers lol you can murder quarterbacks in 1999 and 2000 and 2001 and 2002 and 2003 You're literally just grabbing a couple of people... And thinking every quarterback plays great til they are 37 lol Jim Kelly is a Hall of famer and fell off of a cliff at 34... Donovan McNabb was really good no matter what you think... There's a reason he's on the Hall of Fame ballot every year as a nominee You have the opinion that obviously if you're not a top five All pro you suck.. because you can't say 230 touchdowns... 37,000 yards.. led the league in yards twice.. let the league in interception percentage... First quarterback ever with 30 touchdowns and less than 10 interceptions in a season Philadelphia eagles leader in passing yards and touchdowns... Fifth all time in rushing yards for a quarterback I could keep going on he was really good

Umm unless your name is Tom Brady plenty of quarterbacks fall off at 33 or 34 lmao especially back in the day when you are allowed to punish quarterbacks Including our own Jim Kelly Donovan McNabb was really f****** good... 35,000 yards , 230 touchdowns Strong , mobile.. and a winner... This is Ludacris that people try to downplay Donovan McNabb

Reid had Donovan McNabb who was a pro bowl quarterback and has been nominated for the hof... Easily good enough to win a super bowl.. better than Nick foles who won for the eagles Might not be a top 15 quarterback of all time Donovan McNabb was really f****** good... Would have easily been in the top two quarterbacks in Buffalo history in 60 years We're talking about a top pick who is mobile strong Cannon and a winner... He is one of the most underrated quarterbacks

People said the same thing about Andy Reid in Philadelphia LOL and he's not a different coach Sometimes it takes years and years to build the team... Andy Reid has had 11 years building his team in Kansas City.. Sean McDermott has had 7 years Andy Reid went to a franchise that was actually good in the 5 or 10 years prior at points.. McDermott took over a team that won 17 years with no postseason Worst drought in sports Patrick mahomes worst record against any franchise is the Buffalo Bills We certainly can beat them anytime any day it just hasn't felt that way.. like wide right or 13 seconds We're not far away from beating them and we absolutely can win super bowls

You do realize he was suplexed... Went on the injury report for a back injury Everybody knows back injuries don't clear up in one week He spent the last lots of weeks of the season hobbled... I'm over it he's not a part of the team... I wish him best But he clearly was physically hobbled... Playing through pain

You think Chase claypool is going to be our best receiver? I bet he doesn't even end top three or four in Targets

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