SinceThe70s

Off the top of my head there's only one justification I can come up with: Manny Machado. Which is probably about as likely as the Mets signing Khalil Mack to be their next closer.

Mets did a video tribute for Harvey before the game tonight, which came as a surprise to me. He also seemed contrite and actually likable in the clips I saw of his dugout interview. What a shame that he never became the pitcher we all thought he'd be for us.

I was on vacation in the Canadian Rockies in July. We had a few "Go Bills" moments in somewhat remote places: - a guy walking his dog just below Takkakaw Falls - a guy and his girl on a hiking trail by Emerald Lake Also ran into a family from Buffalo at Athabasca Glacier that we chatted with for a few minutes. Back in March I skiied past a guy with a Bills hat at the top of Vail and gave him a Go Bills, but he didn't hear me.

Bluto: What? Over? Did you say "over"? Nothing is over until we decide it is! Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor? Hell no! .... Otter: I think that this situation absolutely requires a really futile and stupid gesture be done on somebody's part! Bluto: We're just the guys to do it.

"If it's too loud, you're too old". Clearly these guys aren't there yet. Best part is they were "disoriented and dazed" when police found them. How did that differ from anyone else at the show?

By and large the top 5's on this list have been older albums. Probably just the demographics of posters, maybe not. I always thought that CD's were a game changer. Not sure the exact specs, but old guy remembers when your typical two sided LP would fit on a 45 minute cassette. CD capacity was more like 75 minutes. I often got the impression that artists tried to fill up the 75 minutes, which ended up with more filler.

Admittedly ignorant question II: ticketmaster runs stubhub? If so, I had no idea. What about the other secondary sites that seem to have the same tickets?

I'll leave it to others to argue whether the Packers could ever be moved/rescinded. I usually go back to "nothing is certain but death and taxes". Right now and for the foreseeable future there's no motivation to "rescind" and from that standpoint I get your point that it's different. An admittedly ignorant question: is the NFL benefitting from those StubHub sales? Do they care?

The main takeaway from tonight: Gugny needs to attend more Mets games! Hope you had a great night bro! Glad you got to see a good one! Enjoy the bobblehead and make sure your friend gets his!

The public ownership is a twist I don't fully understand WRT to the small market discussion. But I doubt the NFL would view that as an impediment they couldn't overcome if they thought the market didn't deserve a team. But you raise a great point...the fan base thats committed to season tix for years to come is probably enough to keep that team on the relocation/new-stadium back burner Totally different seems like an overstatement. Do you think the NFL sees public ownership as a long term thing they just have to live with and the Bills are an easier mark? That aside, I don't know the first thing about what their getting for primo seating...does it rival (or include) PSL's and does it generate revenue for the NFL? Great point. I grew up in an age where the Packers were irrelevant from a competitive standpoint. Would the discussion differ if Favre and Rodgers were replaced by two guys that sucked? I suspect it would.

Could the same line of thinking apply to Green Bay? Is Lambeau that much better then New Era and Green Bay that much more affluent than WNY?

If DeGrom continues on this pace it will be an interesting vote. When King Felix won the Cy there was a mini-uproar because of the won-loss record, but a general consensus they got it right. Since then stats/analytics have become even more ingrained in player evaluations. If the season ended today I think DeGrom would deserve it. BTW, since the 70's (groan) I've thought ERA was one of the truest stats in the game. More recently I've come to like WHIP as well, although I still think there's room for subjective evaluation. Anyway, as bad as this season has and will continue to be, Lets Go Mets!

Nice stat and nice point about the Mets other hit. It's mind boggling that DeGrom is pitching this well and sitting at 5-7. King Felix won a Cy Young with a 13-12 record. I'd love to see a comparison of the run support he got that year vs. what DeGrom's gotten this year.

I'd rather not know but I always check. Can't help myself. I have a lot of respect for the bands that play a different set every night. Only thing you know walking in is what they won't be playing.

Yeah I grew up on Kiner, Murphy and Nelson. The happy recaps were classic, but do you remember "and the Mets win the damn thing!" https://www.amazinavenue.com/2013/7/25/4553784/new-york-mets-history-july-25-bob-murphy-says-mets-win-damn-game

You make it sound like a bad thing. Come to think of it Lois should probably make this list.

Peter Griffin disagrees

Good stuff. Vent all you want! For the record, I've only recently come around to the Wilpons are cheap rally cry so I get your point about the signings. My problem is they never seem willing to bury their mistakes (bad contracts) by spending more. I didn't see the game today. Surprised to hear about Bautista. From what I've seen, he's played hard. Callaway is spineless, in way over his head and maybe more to the point wholly unprepared to handle this market. Regardless, Lets Go Mets!

Couldn't decide whether this fit better here or in the Mets thread, but the day after Jose Reyes gave up 2 HR's in the Mets 25-4 loss, he hit two the following day. http://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/24256733/jose-reyes-new-york-mets-makes-history-two-home-runs-loss

Sorry if I misinterpreted your post. I love when you and others talk up guys in the minors, I know you've been on Borenstein who is an unknown to me. WRT to the trio and Callaway, at this point I'm not sure what scares me more. If the trio goes, Callaway goes too. If one or more of the trio stays I don't know what to expect. Pessimistic guy says it doesn't matter. The team is rotten from the head (Wilpons) down. I thought Sandy did well and had this team positioned for success despite the Wilpons. And then things happened.

Not sure what's up with your boy Borenstein, but I seriously doubt Callaway is the blocker. Calloway barely knows whats going on in his own dugout and the games he manages let alone what's available in the minors, through trades or free agency. From what I can tell (see the Cespedes situation) he and the trio don't even talk.

I couldn't possibly come up with my top 5 favorite albums, just too much to love. 5 that stick out off the top of my head: Zeppelin/IV: overplayed it and at times convinced myself that they made better albums. This is still their best. Maybe the best rock album of all time. The Who/Quadrophenia: for some reason I never get tired of this album. Ever. Aerosmith/Rocks: wish I had seen them back in the day (on or before Live Bootleg) Never Mind The Bollocks Here's The Sex Pistols: defined a genre, I would have a hard time keeping this off my top 5 list Janes Addiction/Strays: an instant classic the first time I heard it

The plot thickens. Who knows whether this is just spin from the agent but the claim is that Kelley was upset because one ump was telling him to speed up and another to slow down. Still doesn't excuse his tantrum. http://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/24256076/washington-nationals-reliever-shawn-kelley-says-umpires-sparked-mound-tantrum

Interesting aftermath to last nights drubbing. Shawn Kelley got nicked up for a few runs in the 9th and had issues with the umps over how fast he was pitching. After he gave up a HR he had a mini-tantrum and threw his glove to the ground. Today the Nat's DFA's him. http://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/24253305/washington-nationals-dfa-shawn-kelley-throwing-tantrum-mound So somehow the Nat's managed to come away from a 25-4 whitewash of the Mets with a slightly bad taste in their mouth.

My son just pointed out that it's been a historical year for the Mets. They opened the season with their best start ever and now they have their most lopsided defeat ever.