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You told me that my moral compass was off cause you didnt like my answer to your hypothetical. Your crusading. Calling the watching of illegal posted streams "stealing" is super dicey though cause watching does not imply intent. If you go to a bar and watch the game but the owner put up the game from an illegal stream then are you stealing? not in my opinion (and again not in the opinion of the law) which is why watching illegal streams is not unlawful because it would be overly broad. As to morality, each person has their own experiences, beliefs, and values that shapes what they think is right and wrong. you can disagree, but not everyone is gonna be aligned on whats right and wrong thus the morality of something will have some subjectivity. there are some things very commonly shared as "wrong" such as stealing for personal gain (your example), while there are others that are more subjective stealing to restore what was lost. i think this example is more the latter than the former. You can tell people you disagree and try to persuade them to your cause but scolding them and saying their moral compass is way off is not really appropriate imo. So aladdin and Robinhood were in the wrong? you sound like a villain from a disney movie.

Mine says I wouldnt do it given your lite on details hypothetical. If he stole it from me first I would feel justified. But doesnt matter what my moral compass says in this hypothetical as its internal to you. Stop trying to tell people what their morals should be. You are moral crusading as you said you didnt want to. You think watching illegally distributed copyright material shouldn't be ethical which has pretty obvious concerns.

Stealing is not necessarily morally wrong. Moral are internal to self. So I could feel something is moral to steal (maybe it was stolen from me originally or something else was stolen, literally the case many posters are making here). So there is 100% moral ambiguity because morals are internal and we are not hive minded or robots. You seem to be on the side of Jafar and the Sheriff of Nottingham against Aladdin and Robinhood who both believed it was morally ok to steal to feed hungry children even though it was ethically wrong. My rationalizations are my morals we all have them. we differ and thats fine but i am not confused about what im doing and am very honest with myself that its ok. Morally I cant tell you youre wrong thats for you to live with. Ethically you are wrong for taking a car while I am not for watching a stream posted publicly.

That’s my fault. I was yelling CB! And I should have yelled “like a good neighbor…”

This AI says Giants over Washington. I found that and this project interesting.

Watching games on any streaming service is not illegal! Else Lebron would be in handcuffs for using the service in public. If you do think its illegal you better be careful your eyes never are exposed to copyrighted material without the consent of the IP owner. This is obviously impossible which is why watching is not illegal!!!!

This thread really needs to clarify that watching a stream is not illegal. Hosting (thus distributing content) is. If you download copyrighted content onto your device (thus taking undo ownership) that is also illegal. Thats why they hit the streamers and not the viewers.

Moral versus ethical challenge here. Its not ethical to host a stream of a game illegally (watching for obvious reasons is totally legal but dont tell johnny bravo) but could be moral to many (robinhood scenario). Laughing as people tell me how to be moral. not your place.

Honestly how much is lost if peeps are still seeing ads. I get that subscription fees are big revenue now but if I’m watching a live event that has ads broadcast from an illegal stream or through a legal one what is the difference. I’m just as likely to purchase the product and thus the value of the ad during the event is agnostic of the service that provided it.

Ingram is my preference as white was never a good tackler and Strong was pretty awful replacing crack blocks against the bears.

I googled "bateman wrong route bills playoffs" and AI says he didnt agree (Balitmore Sun paywall for the link, though he says he didnt run the wrong route in the by line). So its the opposite of what you said. Neither say he ran the wrong route. https://www.baltimoresun.com/2025/08/11/the-art-and-science-of-ravens-wr-rashod-batemans-route-running/#:~:text=It's not without merit.,your hip movement and patterns. I thought you made good points too but thought i would throw the game scrip aspect in since it was one of the biggest differences between the regular season and playoffs (we werent a great come from behind team last year)

Meh. We missed a FG and an extra point. we also gave up a hail mary 11 penalties for 94 yards (Jets had a ton too), but I remember the calls being pretty not great to us (lol the link below, cant find the spencer brown unsporstman like that wiped away a DPI). So yes they do give us a tough time but it seems to be more us screwing it up than them playing at another level.

Agree but game script was so important including last years playoff win that there is some reason to try and take the lead and get them out of running the ball. I would love a pass-heavy scheme. I worry about getting pounded with gap runs that slice up our penetrating DTs. I think its a pass heavy game Josh and Co. will edge out a good passing game from Lamar.

Since there’s (by definition) performance below the average that’s gonna make for a lot of roster churn.

He can still join any active roster though. So if he’s done rehab with his friends and another team has a role he’ll take that. I agree once he’s rehabed he’s gonna play but that doesn’t mean it’s gonna be here per se.

I dont see them as counting, but Google AI thinks they do (lol that changed today prior to posting lol). Please provide links cause this is a weird subject. I have ESPN below. https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/46078884/what-nfl-practice-squads-eligibility-salary-rules-know

Yeah he’s not gonna revolutionize anything. I still remember the 2019 game when they missed 3 FGs and were down to us 14-7 in TEN with 6:30 to go and it’s 4th and 4 from BUF 35. He trots santos out for a 53 yarder (his longest attempt of the day) after dude missed a 36 yard kick the drive before. There’s stubborn, then there’s rocks, then there’s Mike vrabel

PUP was never “on the team” and now IR can be designated to return without the gymnastics of making the team. Good PSA though

Yeah he’s gotta drop the knee too much horizontal displacement. I assume that’s what they said. I missed this game but he is a homer run or strike out player. It’s great or terrible. Hope they can get him sorted like they did with Josh and it’s more good than bad.

It was a funny number and this place has been a bit wild lately. Sorry for the pile on.

But I told you 3 top 5 players (and 1 top 10) at their position that he drafted and you dismissed it. 3 of those 4 players are at premium positions. That’s not a lack of elite talent. You’re acting like we’re some middling team and not one of the most successful teams in the league the past 5 years. I’m not sure he’s an elite talent evaluator. But he’s def good. As to Elam versus Benford clearly there’s something all teams missed with regard to Benford and Elam is seemingly not doing terribly in Dallas. There are a lot of variable that can be hard to control for and it causes the great talent to be overlooked (ffs look at TB12).

So his later picks don’t count? You only get credit for first round picks? Draft is a projection game. Those with elite athleticism go earlier cause they project easier and have a higher probability of hitting (also floor/ceilings come into consideration). All that is a way to say yeah you’ll have good players that go late. Every GM passed up on these players multiple times. Do you hold that against them (every GM needing a corner must stink for missing CB). Your original point was no elite players from Beane (even went as far as saying no one believed Spencer brown was top 5). Beane isn’t perfect but he’s def top 10 if not top 5. Thanks. Love Spencer Brown. Dawkins is fun but I love watching Brown. He hooked me as a rookie against the dolphins when a DB was talking smack and he put his hand at his chin and acted like he couldn’t see him. Can’t wait to see his prime in the coming years.

lol these numbers. Is that why everyone is so grumpy? They think were paying Hamlin $7 mil? Were paying the whole room only like 10mil (prior to cuts). Probably only 8 after cuts.

Not convinced well need a H2H tiebreaker for the Chiefs like other years. AFC West looks much improved and they were banging on the door last year.

I (and many others) trust Brandon Thorn to be one of the best OL talent evaluators. He listed him as #3 RT in the league. So I understand one of the most respected evaluators has him top 5. He also picked Josh Freaking Allen. Christian Benford also top 10 talent. Taron Johnson still top 10 and maybe top 5 (def was at his peak). I got to 3 top 5 players. 2 of those are at premium positions and has a top 10 at another premium position. Has he gotten top 10 at every premium position? No but he’s doing way better than you are giving credit for.