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I agree. Trying to find the source but heard the chiefs are pretty rough against spread. If Kincaid is out this needs to be 11 personnel game. LB corp for KC is deep and I would much rather they have to put another CB on the field.

Why does he have to be better? Spector was a better athlete coming out and has shown he can command our defense. Spector has better missed tackle % and more TFL. Will say Kwon has generated more splash plays (FF particularly) across his career and has previously been a better coverage player but the caveat there is that Baylon knows our system a lot better. I would rather stay with the younger cheaper player that knows our system better. baylon also feels like a better culture fit.

Consequence of playing in the AFC east and against the AFC South. Would also note that if Miami doesnt lose Tua they are almost certainly not a sub 500 team (they dont lose to Tenn and Colts). We beat them with Tua so I do not discount that win so for the moment I would consider that to be wins over a winning team.

I think hes below average and getting worse, but i also think that still is a threat against our run defense. 🙃

Slow is not a fact and is really a silly take. Dane Jackson is slow, Benford aint. Hes more athletic than Tre so you were against that contract? Heck which CB contracts do you like cause there arent many one on one lock down corners out there (everyone plays majority zone). what is a good return? The NFL GMs generally agree that a guy with these type of measurables and on the field performance is worth a fairly big second contract. Agree McD has coached up a lot of guys, but they mostly dont have Benford's measurables so I would keep him. Dude is also super smart and is a dog. Hes truely a joy to watch and youre take of him being expendable is just funny.

Hes a guy they are gonna squeeze every ounce of before Pacheco comes back. Look at his game logs. Hes slowing down. less than 3 yards per carry in 2 of his last 3 (this is after their passing game found life with Hopkins). Also only 2 broken tackles in his last 3 games too (will concede this is all small sample size discussion) versus 5 in his first 3 games. hes their short yardage back based on success rate. They are using him heavily but not necessarily efficiently. Someone said Hunt was a top 5 back in the NFL since joining the Chiefs. Thats ludicrous.

Our run d is bad yes but if you are nervous about 3.6 yards per carry youre never gonna get any sleep. Let them run him and not have Mahomes pass on first down. Im here for it. Also it would be interesting to see if he could keep even this pace. 10 more carries and thats his highest workload in 5 years.

I mustve missed the last 4 years where we won playoff games. Us and KC are like the only teams the past 4 years to do that. If we werent in their conference we would def have had even more. Its not like were one and done. Also as others have commented, Rousseau is a huge difference maker. That strip sack last week was pretty important.

Yall are right thanks. Week 3 against the Jags. https://www.pro-football-reference.com/awards/players-of-the-week.htm

incorrect. cap hit is 23 mill next year and dead cap is 15 mil so we net 8 mil against the cap.

We really do have a crazy number of POWs this year. And I dont think Josh has won one yet. Sign me up for him getting one this week.

Agree on this and especially Brady. Saw somewhere that KC has been awful against spread formations. I think that makes sense considering how deep their LB corps are and how limited their CBs. Spread can also help diagnose blitzes a bit better cause its hard to hide when eligibles are all on the line. This would be very interesting cause we havent run a lot of spread this year to my recollection, and were down at least coleman and maybe other receiving threats. Not sure I'm expecting it but am interested to see if Brady has a change up saved for the chiefs.

we save 8 mil if we cut him next offseason. if we designate as post june 1st we save 16 mil but we roll more dead cap into 2026 https://overthecap.com/player/von-miller/2#google_vignette

Those are some pretty good gifts. His agility is poor (though his 10 yard is great) but I think he more than makes up for that with his brain. Combine his processing and frame and you can see why hes successful. Dane was a 4.45 for reference. Ive only ever seen him get cooked once and that was when villanova played Penn State he got roasted by Dotson. Youd think if he wasnt athletic enough and was getting cooked he would miss more than 1 tackle in the past 24 games! Also he allows a sub 90 QB rating. Dude is a dog that keeps things in front of him while generating 8 FF and INT combined.

I really like 12 with Josh now. Cause it puts the defense in that bind. Do you want to put a base personnel or nickel. If nickel then Kincaid is likely blocking a DB (which he can def do) and Knox blocking a LB (sometimes a DE) and we’re getting chunks. Go base and now you have a LB in Knox or Kincaid and you’re cooked. The versatility is awesome. If it’s an obvious passing situation give me 11 with Kincaid and shakir

I feel you. But to give you some hope their Offense can stress the middle of the field probably better than any team in the league and at the time we were missing 2 former All-Pros and our only D captain. So I think reinforcements are coming there. Additionally their weakness on defense is outside receivers and we werent able to beat them there (humphrey locked up shakir and they kept an eye on Kincaid). Now we do have weapons in Cooper and Coleman's emergence to show we can attack there. For me the offense has needed to attack in the passing game the last few weeks and I feel pretty good we would have a better showing there. The game against the Lions will tell me if we fixed the defensive concerns. I gets its your opinion, and I appreciate you mentioning it. I dont like you just saying "prove me wrong." Happy that you are pulling back from that some. I do think the free stats should give some insights into what youre thinking. Are they exact on target/off target stats? No (I appreciate you clarifying what you are looking for), but you can get some insight into on/off target to support your case. Overall, I dont think the stats support your hypothesis (though its not definitive as I note below). Success rate was one of the stats I pulled. If Allen was off target I would expect this to be affected because so much of Kincaid's success has been YAC. If we look at directly at YAC/catch we see Kincaid improved from 4.3 yards to 6.2 yards and this is a bigger jump than allen has from 5.1 yards to 6.2 yards. However, this aint definitive and you could to be onto something about down the field throws that proprietary stats would be needed to show. This convo started with the miss last week but there have been some others that Josh missed to Kincaid. Good thoughts just bring some stats or ask where to look if before you dig in with a prove me wrong attitude (other guy wasnt helping which is why i entered the convo). Also note Im just a dude who likes numbers and football so Im hardly an authority. Im just super rationale so I need to know if things make sense.

There would be stats for this (they are proprietary). I think hes throwing to him less efficiently than last year which is warping the perception. His throws to him are more successful than Josh's throws on average. Getting 80% of 2nd and long is SUPER valuable and something we sorely lacked since Beasley has left.

PFR is free and super useful. Opinions without data are just perceptions. If were just gonna have a perception discussion i think that has little value and not why I come to this board. We have in the past had good conversations based on data iirc. My opinion aligns with what i see in the stats and game (confirmation bias can be real so careful), Josh is a little off throwing to him (relative to last year) but overall Josh has more success targeting Kincaid (hes so valuable on 2nd and long). I think your perceiving something thats worse than it is and thats probably cause of the drop %.

Coming with a position and asking people to engage you to prove you wrong is sorta the definition of trolling. i say this cause you usually dont troll. i think youre just being lazy. the data is pretty easy to find on PFR so i did. Kincaid has catch rates of 80% and 57% versus Josh completion % of 66% and 63%. Kincaid does have better success rate when targeted than Josh averages. For ADOT Kincaid is below Josh average each year but did increase from 6.0 to 7.2 this year (so could be some of the completion % drop). What other metrics would you use to support your hypothesis (again sorta why YOU need to come with some data when making a stance). I think overall theres a only a little bit to support this thought because of the lower completion % this year but I also think its a pretty small sample size (not helped by Kincaid 10% drop rate which would put completion % about where I would expect it to be). Youre a better poster than this to just ask for people to refute your hot take. Where is the "debate me " meme. https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/A/AlleJo02.htm https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/K/KincDa00.htm

that helps clarify. But you would rather Hardy as a CB (who even with injuries this year probably doesnt see the field besides coverage) versus Cod who is helping us to a league best in starting field position (also helped by the 19 TOs weve generated, 2nd in the league)? At that point in the roster I think returner matters way more (they have the ball 4-5 times a game)

If the logic is then that they are the best team in the NFL, I again strongly disagree. I think the saying "you are what your record says is way overblown." It has some value but records (like any stat) can be misleading.

Yes agree that you are not what your record says (perfect in this instance). You can very much be different. Obviously KC is a tough matchup.

Considering we have the bye after, itll be invigorating for 2 weeks if we win. But i agree in the grand scheme of things it doesnt mean much. KC does seem likely to be the 1 seed but they aint out of the woods yet. LAC has a way to steal the division if KC can drop one to Den (divisional tie breakers, if LAC beats them). I think KC is closer to Eagles style collapse last year than they are to Patriots domination of 18-0.

This logic implies the chiefs are perfect. I strongly disagree.

Dolphins scored from 8 yards out by running right at him after smoot went down. Hes not ready yet against the run from what I can tell. I also feel hes going to be very good. Hes just getting reached too easily right now. Look at how Javon gets reached at 7:30 versus how Groot fights it off at 13:00. Part of that is body composition but Solomon is gonna need to figure that out before he can do more than rush in obvious passing plays (though he should def get more of those chances).