D. L. Hot-Flamethrower

Don't forget when they're spouting 41 Tds/ 4 Ints for Lamar, that Josh actually led the NFL in QBR. Not a small task, especially given his team had an outstanding regular season record given the lack of talent expressed by many. It's not at all a bad argument for an MVP!

If it ends up Lamar AP, Saquon OPOY and Josh MVP I'm happy

https://www.vegasinsider.com/nfl/odds/mvp/

Josh winning a deserved MVP would take some of the sting out of the season ending NFL Shitshow!

Wow I hope these teams have a month off afterwards to recover, that is a brutal trip from Philly or LA 18 RSG then 3-4 more PG and travel like this. Jeez! but we're worried about player health

And I'm doing my part, I hope everyone else is doing theirs. I've gotten at least 2 dozen people I know to swear off watching the shitshow that is this game.

He's not good enough IMO to pay him $20+. He seems on the cusp of move up sometimes and then takes a swoon as we saw in the playoffs. I'm curious as to whether McBeane value him the way most of us do.

https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/J/JoneDe00.htm For those of you to young to know Deacon Jones, check out his record-pretty amazing pass rusher in his time.

I was going nuts watching him give up the edge the whole game, may have been the worst I've ever seen him have play. Also, I kept thinking we'd adjust and we never did.

The best defense I've ever seen talent wise was the 70s Steelers, granted I was a kid and didn't know as much. But, I swear some of the takes on here are laughable. I thought I'd continue for humor the hilarious takes of how good Bills players are in a some minds. Greg Rousseau=LC Greenwood Ed Oliver=Mean Joe Greene Matt Milano=Jack Ham Terrell Bernard= Jack Lambert Christian Benford= Mel Blount

Greg Rousseau=Deacon Jones???? For me when you perform the exercise in this thread how obvious it is that Josh is the MVP. I'm not knocking Lamar he's awesome, and Player of the Year, but in terms of value to his team it's obvious.

I wonder whether if James Cook isn't just lack of usage away from being elite.

Good to see that some people are actually calling it what it is. It doesn't make you a crazy crybaby to call this out. Not as simple as it's the Bills fault for not making a foot.

That play was enormous. Jusy think how the game and post game narrative would have been different. Potential 9 point lead, but at least a 4 point lead. Everything changes.

I think the whole thing is strange. It's not just as simple as the Chiefs are so much greater than everyone else. It's mathematically defying. Just a warning expect to get called a crybaby.

McDermott's scheme is a real winner against most teams, especially teams who don't have an elite QB or have a rookie. We seem to struggle against the elite teams OC/QB combo on defense. This year our offense played to help the defense. We need much better talent at some spots, and as you say the ability to knock passing games off timing. That has been the strategy since the beginning of time with these really good QBs and passing games. They'll slice and dice you eventually if they get in rythymn. Another issue is like with Detroit this year, Glenn plays the style we're talkin about to the extreme other way. When injuries hit you run short on guys who can cov er.

Yeah that's what they say Ok Mr. therapist

If they're uncoverable then why blitz more. I'll tell you why, because zone leaves too much space for a guy like Burrow to slice and dice. You need guys who can cover immediately. No one can cover over a long period of time.

If you're going to blitz you need guys who can cover man.

This was Ryan Fitzpatricks thought as well on his podcast with Whitworth. The point is it shouldn't have even gotten to fourth down on that play.

I agree with this about the bias. I mean everyone at the NFL offices knows which matchups are preferred money makers.

I understand what you're saying, and I want to feel that as well. But, it seems like they're are some odds defying things that have occurred over a period of games and multiple teams ( not just bills/chiefs)

Look I'm not a conspiracy theorist. However, I do have a significant background in ice hockey. Hockey referees miss calls yes, but in general practice there is the infamous even up call. The culture within the hockey world is for the referees to not want to impact outcomes. To keep the games as safe and fair as possible. In the NFL it's something different going on. THE ODDS WOULD APPEAR TO BE ASTRONOMICAL OF GETTING SO MANY CLOSE CALLS TO GO IN ONE DIRECTION. And, some would argue across many games. How does this happen? Is it the NFL philosophy of we have to get it right? Yet they refuse to keep it at only a select group of plays are reviewable and not all plays as some like Belichick wanted. It just seems to easy to say this is just coincidence. WHAT SAY YOU ALL? keep it rational please, the odds really bother me and it's not just Bills/Chiefs games. What the hell is going on?

Bull *****