D. L. Hot-Flamethrower

So PFF says Bills are 19th, that's about 7-10 record, actually went 13-4, thats +6, Ravens are third( close to 1st) that's like 14-3/15-2 and ended up 12-5. Thats -3. Hmmmm

https://apnews.com/article/nfl-all-pro-2024-888c24e48accae0aed78547a22562331 Along with being great bulletin board material and the Broncos upset hopes being dimininshed this is all you need to look at. We got like next to NO votes at all! For those of you who think it's perfectly reasonable that LJ is MVP. He's surrounded by the best roster in football and the Bills have one of the worst. Yet JA, with stats almost as good and in some cases better( turnovers, sacks) dragged this bunch of JAGs to a better record all year. THATS THE MVP!

https://apnews.com/article/nfl-all-pro-2024-888c24e48accae0aed78547a22562331 This is really what should be posted on bulletin board. They got like next to no votes at all.

And, people wonder why we knock LJ? He's beyond reproach at this point

So would I and it could happen.

First of all no one is arguing that his numbers aren't amazing. Secondly, there is only 1 winner and it's a choice between the 2. So you have to pick one. You can't say so and so is deserving too that's a copout. Josh is deserving this season. As an aside, regarding the Ravens, alot of people still don't trust this team and LJ in particular if the system has a malfunction. Like someone slows them down running early and manages to put some points up and they have to play catchup. When everything goes according to plan they can stomp people. But, I don't know of many people who feel the same about LJ as they do Patrick or Josh as to whether he can bring a team back with his arm and passing acumen. He does much, much better when he has wide open receivers and the running game is cooking.

Let's face it some teams are better setup for guys to always build up stats

I think the worst thing that could've happened to the Broncos upset hopes took a huge hit when the ALL PRO team came out.

No

I completely disagree, i've made my arguments elsewhere it is robbery when you look at it logically and not statistically

And, now McDermott will receive no serious consideration for COY . Logic is lost

And, it shouldn't matter, unfortunately we have a bunch of people who only care about who has the best stats without context.

I guess the fact the Ravens have 7 All Pros and the Bills have no one else and the Bills had the Superior W/L All season means nothing! JEEZ Anyone who's being honest can watch both teams play and see Josh is working with much less and got it done.

Not sure what it is, but there seems to be something else at work, but the talking heads could be it.

I'm sad that Josh appears to be getting screwed by the AP(MVP too) and the Bills are so disrespected they only got one 2nd teamer. As Jake said in Major League, "Win the whole damn thing!"

Shakir is in the mix as well I think

I like to look at the facts. And, the facts tell us the Bills are the better team, healthy and at home. We have more playoff experience, we're an 8-9 pt favorite. But most of all we have the MVP at QB and they have a rookie. The media is just doing it's thing. Sometimes they break wrong and go against the facts. Nothing you can do except look at the facts.

Penn St. has to win a game like that and will rue the day for not getting it done in this kind of a matchup. They're QB/WR passing game was so lacking I don't know what to say.

Top of the AFC is better, otherwise not so much.

It was the correct call

That team was such an offensive dynamo!

Eli Ankou is the definition of a replacement level player.

I'm not sure I do either. But, I don't know the guy ...so who knows

Or a replacement for Brady when he goes to NO

Wow! That's some good pinning or reading the tea leaves. I'm buying it all!