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I think there is a 95% chance that both McGovern and Edwards won't both be back. I do think there is a somewhat decent chance 1 of them is. McGovern has already confirmed that there were some talks before the season but nothing got done and it was put on the back burner. But, because of these talks, at least the Bills know what his ask is and what a potential contract could look like. So, I do think McGovern might be the slight favorite over Edwards to get re-signed, but it is possible that neither of them do. Unfortunately, we can't pay everyone. Bosa is interesting because I think even though he's been healthy to this point, you always know in the back of your mind what the history is and he is 30 now. How many years are you willing to go? Can you get him to sign an incentive-laden deal? He has said on multiple occasions now how much he loves it here and how happy he is to play here. How much money is he going to ask for? That's an interesting situation. AJ is the guy so many have wanted out of here for a while now. He's having his best season of his career. But what AJ do you get going forward if you do pay him? How much is a guy with really only this season of consistent production actually worth. This is a contract you could get burned on if you are not careful. I don't know. It all depends on what Beane is looking at and has the option to do. I am willing to bet there are offers on the table that some of us would absolutely jump at whereas he won't. This is where not having access to these conversations and offers is really frustrating as fans.

There aren't a ton more things we can do to create space, but there are some. Extending McGovern, Bosa, Epenesa or Edwards could create more room so there are some things, but how crazy do you really want to get? McGovern is a good C and I would be more than happy to extend him. Bosa is an interesting one because of his age and injury history. And with the way his contract is structured, he has a much bigger cap hit in the years to come in the void years of the contract. AJ has been better this year, but how much is he worth in a long term contract? And Edwards is a solid G, but you can't pay everyone on the line. There are things you could do with DaQuan Jones, Milano, and Knox as well, but I am not sure you want to tie yourself to these guys any longer than you have to but there are options with those guys too if you are really feeling frisky. So, while there are a few things we can do to create more space if we want it, the question is what are the soundest and most team friendly moves to make? Regardless, I see a lot of posts saying we can't go big game hunting because of cap space. Well......that's sort of true and sort of not. If there was a HUGE move out there that Beane is dying to make, he can.....but it might involve doing things with contracts for certain guys that we man not exactly want to do those things with. But the option is there if he wants it.

Screw all the freaking picks..... Go get Olave, Waddle, and BTJ and swing for the fences this year! Whatever happens, happens. We lose our whole draft, so what! Figure out who to sign and who to part with after the season. HA!!!! But seriously.....If any of these 3 are available, I think you have to do what it takes to get at least one of them here. It is so hard to find big time WRs in the draft because it is such a crap shoot. Get one and then try and find another WR1 or WR2 in the draft next year and fix the position. This is a chance, if these guys are available, to get a proven stud, start the rebuild of the position early, and help the team this year and beyond.

Beane after dark? It is getting dark a lot earlier now........ That said, it isn't a ton more space, but even to make 1 trade, they needed to free up some space to absorb the contract. Would be a lot more excited if it freed up like 8 million! Who knows....maybe there is another restructure coming? Now we wait.....

I think if he was healthy, he'd already be signed by somebody. The Chiefs or Eagles at least..... That said, we don't know. But, even if we assume he was healthy, I would have a tough time supporting that dirtbag. I guess if we knew he was 100% healthy, and we got Josh's personal endorsement to do it, then I would consider it for sure. I just don't see it happening either way, though, even though the dude can play and would probably help us if he was healthy. This is just one of those things as fans we don't have enough inside insight on to make that kind of call.

Ingram played way too much. He was a liability out there. And I am fine now after 2 weeks with Hairston starting and playing all, but at least a majority, of the snaps. Same with Hancock. Let the kids play, learn on the job, and be ready to roll in January. The speed difference is so noticeable when the kids are playing. They need to be playing the majority of the time at minimum going forward.

I'll simply refer to you the pregame thread where I said: "Alright guys....a Bills victory has been virtually guaranteed. Just placed the biggest moneyline bet I have ever placed against the Bills. So, I have done my part to try to bring us a win. Ugh....I really hope I lose the money!" You're welcome........

Up until last week, and especially what happened in the game yesterday, I would have considered S as a target at the deadline. Not my highest priority, but on the list. However, after the injury to Hoecht and how well Bishop played, I am not in the market for a S by tomorrow. There are just too many other holes that are more glaring needs. Poyer is not great, but his presence seems to have settled the back end of the defense down a bit. Bishop has gotten better and better every week and yesterday was a coming out party of sorts for him as he showed flashes of the potential he has. Will he be that great every week at this point? No. He's still going to make mistakes and miss tackles from time to time. But you saw the promise and I am not going to get in the way of that. And even though Poyer can't keep up physically, he's always lined up properly and helping to get the other guys lined up and get to where they are supposed to be as well. What's even nicer to see is that Jordan Hancock is starting to get more run in there in certain packages that require more speed and he seems to be showing promise of his own. You throw Hairston in at CB and how great he has looked in his first 2 outings and I am ready to knock S off the list of priorities and allocating those potential resources to WR, DT, and pass rusher. I'll live with the growing pains from the kids back there because when they are all working together, the speed and athleticism difference in the secondary has been extremely noticeable watching the last couple games. They all need to be out there full time and let the kids make their way with Poyer and Tre taking on more of a player/coach role the rest of the way.

Solomon is an interesting player. Undersized, but had a ton of production in college even if not at the highest level. He flashed last year as a rookie in limited playing time. I counted several times where he got to the QB, but just didn't finish. He just couldn't get the QB to the ground, but the pass rush itself was there. However, this season hasn't been the step I had hoped for. He was actually pretty bad earlier this year when getting a ton of run while we waited for Hoecht to get back. But, there was a big difference yesterday in the way he was used than how he has been used earlier this season. Until now, a majority of his rushes came off the edge and get was just getting swallowed up by bigger tackles. His speed was kind of negated by his size and tackles with length and he wasn't getting home. Yesterday, and you can see it in this clip, even though it wasn't a ton of reps he was put into the "Hoecht" role and rushing on the inside and I thought he had a bit more success when he did. I haven't watched the All 22 yet to see every rep, but on first watch, it seemed as though his speed and quickness was giving interior lineman fits in the limited snaps he had there. With Hoecht out, this is really the area they need to fill. Hoecht was very effective bullying guards up the middle and that's a lot of where he rushed from in the game and a half or whatever it is that we had him. So, that was his role. Lorenzo Alexander had a similar role when he was here and found great success as a pass rusher in the middle of the defense using his speed. I am not saying Solomon is going to be the answer there, but I do think if played in that role, you will see him have a little more success than he was having coming off the edge. But we'll see. He is still undersized for the role, but maybe his speed a quickness will be enough for him to make an impact there against guards that don't move as well.

BINGO Outside of Shakir who they were force feeding screens to at the LOS, our WRs combined for.....wait for it...... 5 TOTAL CATCHES. Anyone defending our WR production in this game is out of their mind.

And he did it without virtually any WR production...... Incredible what he did today with basically Cook and a bunch of TEs..... You could give him the MVP on that alone. The WR production, or lack thereof, is absolutely embarrassing. He's the best in the world in my opinion, but what we are doing to him by forcing him to do it without any WR help is just so unfair to him. And by us, I mean Beane. It's on him to fix it, but I am not holding my breath.

Max again on the last play..... He needs to start and not come off the field.... Great game for the young kids today. But man, losing Hoecht just puts a damper on the whole thing. Quick thoughts now because I think I am going to be stewing on the Hoecht injury all night: 1. Bishop was great today. Sort of a coming out party. Wasn't perfect, but made a ton of impact plays. 2. The defensive line really stepped up. Now, a lot of that was because Hoecht was an animal again today and really changed the effectiveness of the line as a whole. But obviously, this will be the last time this season I will be able to say this because he's done for the year. And you saw it when he went out. He went down and the very next play is 4th and 18 with no pass rush. 3. Bosa was good today. He made his share of impact plays. Him and Hoecht really had things going up front. Going to need Bosa to carry the load the rest of the way and that's going to be tough. 4. Max, in limited snaps, might be our best CB already. We'll see what he does with more playing time, but man, I want the kid starting and on the field way more going forward. 5. On the exact opposite front, I don't need to see Ingram anywhere near the field going forward. 6. Cook was great again and our offensive line was dominant for a lot of the game. There is obviously more things that I can list, and I am sure all of you will cover them, but I need a separate section for this discussion. OUR WRS ARE STILL AWFUL AND ARE GOING TO BE THE MAIN REASON WE WON'T GET TO WHERE WE WANT TO GO. Yup.....the same as it ever was. It was the conversation going into the game and the game just reinforced it. If it wasn't for our TEs, we would literally have no passing game to speak of. Sure, Moore had the 1 catch late which was great, but that was the only play of note from any of our WRs today. Everything else was at the LOS and it's awful. The Chiefs figured it out in the 2nd half and virtually shut our offense down. We can't live this way and it's going to be our downfall in the end. I am not saying anything we didn't know already, but it is such a freaking glaring problem and Beane has 2 days to try and find some help. Needless to say, I'm not holding my breath especially after his infamous rant after the draft. Nobody's laughing now, are they Beane? You came across like a fool then and look like an even bigger one now because of our WR production now...... However, I want to shout out the TE group. The only group of impact weapons in the pass game we have. Great game guys. PS..... Happy about the win, of course, but until we do it in January, I refuse to get overly excited.

Ingram out there again? What is this crap defense?

Of course.....

Come on Prater.....