GunnerBill

Shavers came out a year BEFORE Keon though. He had two years on the PS before he broke the roster.

You are wrong on Dorian though. You might love him, but he makes sooo many mental mistakes as @HoofHearted has just demonstrated some examples of. Now I agree with you the starters have been horrid, so I am at "nothing much to lose" stage - but I do not expect Dorian to be transformational for this defense. He still doesn't understand what he sees with any consistency. As for Bishop last year, he was on the field and he was making killer mistakes consistently. The light has gone on with him since Poyer went alongside him. So if you want to blame the Bills for not having a trur vet in the room to work with him in 2024, be my guest. But arguing he should have played more in 2024.... no. Sorry. He shouldn't. He was a liability out there.

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So my ranking at the time was: Tier 1: 1. MHJ 2. Nabers Tier 2: 3. Odunze Tier 3: 4. Legette 5. BTJ Tier 4: 6. Mitchell 7. McConkey 8. Worthy Tier 5: 9. Baker (went much later) 10. Coleman 11. Pearsall I didn't have a top 2 rounds grade on Polk. If I was redrafting today (on the basis of production not health) I'd go: Tier 1: 1. Nabers Tier 2: 2. MHJ 3. BTJ 4. Odunze 5. McConkey Honestly after that I'd be hard pressed to take any of the others in the first 2 rounds so there is no tier 3 or 4. EDIT: I had Franklin in that tier with Baker and Coleman somewhere. Forgot about him before @gonzo1105's post. And I WOULD take Franklin in round 2. He is still probably tier 4. But on his own and with no tier 3.

Hancock is mainly coming in at safety on passing downs. Lewis is playing dime. It could be it just "coincided" with JoPo going in. I suspect not though. I suspect a proper vet who actually knows football is making a significant difference.

The whole "Josh picked Keon!" rhetoric is such nonsense. Do I believe Josh was watching clips of that WR class and texting Beane saying "this guy looks awesome!" Sure. Do I believe that either: a) Josh was saying "X guy is my first choice" whether that was Keon or anyone; or b) that Josh had any influence on the pick? Strong no to both. Brandon Beane is responsible for the Bills draft picks. I don't know how many other ways there are to say it.

I think Stroud's movement would have been the x factor. You can pen Mills in.

I agree. The Texans D is legit. The O with Mills doesn't frighten me.

This is like the "I'd rather face Bryce Young than Andy Dalton" rhetoric. If the Bills can score 24 they win. This is like the "I'd rather face Bryce Young than Andy Dalton" rhetoric. If the Bills can score 24 they win.

If you are a northern hemispher dweller then in November you have no choice but to head south. The weather is good, they have adults only 5 star resorts and they are a little bit cheaper than the Carribean. That is the full summary of my decision making.

They have mismanged it, certianly. But I am not sure Keon was ever capable of being the answer personally.

Compared to the day job right now that would be a blessed relief 😂

Ha I won't be mixing with locals. I am here for their sunshine and in a gated 5 star.

Well he has been late multiple times going back to his rookie year, he was late to meetings in his rookie camp. That is not a good sign. It is unacceptable.

Win on Thursday and the playoffs are all but certain I think. I'm on holiday in Mexico too so I don't need to be up in the middle of the night to watch.