GunnerBill

I have seen reports that his final day of mini camp was much better. There are only two candidates to start opposite Benford. They are Hairston and White. They obviously want Hairston to win that battle. We all do. If he doesn't and Tre is healthy then Tre would play.

Agree. We need better corner play at CB2 now than we did when we had peak Hyde and Poyer.

No I watched a dreadful Detroit - Buffalo pre-season game 😜

Not beyond week 1 of camp he didn't. They narrowed it down to Bernard v Dodson quite quickly once camp came. The same might happen to Tre but by all reports he had a better day yesterday. And he probably has more credit in the bank than AJ Klein did. And of course they want Hairston to emerge as the starter. That is what we all hope happens.

I was trying to think who'd make my list (fan since 2002). I was trying to balance pure ability with importance to and impact on the franchise. 1. Josh Allen 2. Kyle Williams 3. Stefon Diggs 4. Mario Williams 5. Tre White 6. Dion Dawkins 7. Aaron Schobel 8. Matt Milano 9. Jordan Poyer 10. Jason Peters 11. Fred Jackson 12. Taeko Spikes 13. Micah Hyde 14. LeSean McCoy 15. London Fletcher Honestly the top 4 are easy for me. Josh speaks for himself. Kyle Williams was Mr Buffalo Bills for so long and epitomised the team's fight back to relevance. Then the next two are the two proven elite level superstars the Bills have been able to bring in during my fandom. I went back and forth then on 5 and 6. I ended up with Tre at 5 because at his peak he was elite and a first team all pro over Dion's durability and consistent excellence at that level just below the elite tackles. After that.... I could take an argument about the rest of my order. That is very subjective. The two guys that just missed out were Gilmore (who I think was a great player for the Bills but not necessarily a great Bill and didn't make a big impact) and Lee Evans who was a good player for a reasonable period.

Essentially you are asking to buy me out of my Bills fandom. Not because I am only in it for the winning, no Bills fan could be accused of that. But because it is the hope that makes it worth it. What do I value my Bills fandom at? Honestly? You'd have to be talking 7 figures. Needs to be never work again money.

The guy I have always said Shakir reminds me of is Ekeler at 27 he was a dynamic dual threat running back putting up 900 rushing and 700 receiving. Two years later he was no more than a return guy. He had a simiar low centre of gravity, try and spin out of every tackle, style as Shakir in the pass game.

Yea that is the point in the boundary thing. It's not an issue until it is. You can beat 75% of this league within minimal boundary threat. But when it comes to it against the best teams and the best coaches they are going to force you to beat them outside if they don't think you can. It's classic Belichick. I'm going to take away what you do well and make you beat me another way and if you do, fair play to you.

I wouldn't. He is toast that is burnt on both sides.

The point about Shakir is the efficiency would continue to fall because he isn't versatile (or you might say 'complete') enough to be used in the range of ways you would need to use him to get him 160 targets. You'd end up trying to force feed the ball to him in situations where he is not best suited to a) get open and b) make the catch and so the likelihood is the efficiency would drop again. The more you get away from using the particular skillset he has and towards trying to use him as a "do it all" receiver the less efficient he will ultimately be. I actually think there is a case to be made that the way to get greater production out of Shakir would be to dial his targets back slightly.... not massively... but about a target per game compared to 2024 and to focus those targets better on optimising his skillset. I don't think the Bills are in the position to do that without having a better situation on the boundary, but I am open to the possibility that Shakir ends up having a 1,000 yard season at some stage on fewer targets than the 100 he had in 2024. You can't exact league discipline on a player based on gut feel about what it was. The NFLPA would have a field day with it.

At this moment, granted a lot can change, smart money is on declining the option.

I just don't know if he has the nuance or understanding of how to use the athletic ability he does have to compensate for what he doesn't. But there is a lot of trash on his 2024 tape. And good on him for having the balls to call himself on it. Respect.

Hmmm. Knee. Not great.

No the biggest Keon guy, but I effing love that.

I have never used that terminology for the Ravens or the Cowboys either. I don't really go in for attacking teams that win plenty but can't get over the hump in tournament play. Those teams are normally not far away and it is about finding the small modifications that you can try and use to get you there. Those modifications can be changing the coach or the General Manager. But I am just not persuaded that is the right lever to pull. Maybe I will get there. But I don't see it right now. There are, as I have said multiple times, three scenarios in which I am already clear I would fire McDermott: 1. The Bills missing the playoffs save for in a situation when they lose Josh Allen for a significant stretch. 2. The Bills losing a playoff game to a team they have a clear Quarterback advantage over (not a Mahomes, Burrow, Jackson). 3. Another clearly identifiable coaching blunder akin to 13 seconds. You can have one mulligan. You don't get two. Any of those 3 scenarios would convince me the coaching is the issue. I may get there in other scenarios too. But those are the 3 that are obviously identifiable.