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That math would say we should spend 20% of the cap space and roster on ST if we're using your analogy. Most here who disagree with you and feel ST emphasis *is* important don't advocate for that much money. Who's side are you on anyway?

4,850 yards 42 passing TDs 10 INTs 440 rushing yards 7 rushing TDs

When adjusted for inflation that would be the ~$28 Million Dollar Man. Or about starting QB salary. Glad we got him for 1976 era Jaime Sommers/Lindsay Wagner* prices*.* *They both got the bionic arm, but she didn't get the eye. **Just referencing the glass ceiling for females, not advocating or approving before anyone says I need to be more woke. (As a 50 y/o I'm ashamed of myself for using the word "woke" outside of what I do in the morning.)

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I think both of you are saying the same thing. Having a high Wonderlic doesn't automatically equate to high "football intelligence." But it's a likely indicator for ability to learn and get to a high football intelligence. (Conversely having a low Wonderlic doesn't mean no football smarts; that may be where they are a genius.) Kelce being a former QB means he was ahead of some players in already acquired football intelligence, especially the receiver-QB sync. The football smarts at the pro level are hard enough to pick up for players who've played a position for 8-10 years prior to the pros. As we all know, Knox wasn't use as a pass-catching TE at all in college, and even as a TE period he's pretty new to the game. Bottom line: He didn't arrive with the TE football smarts, but his evaluation indicates he can acquire them. It's been two years. It's time to show that's true.

Sounds like a rabble rousing attempt from that comment. The ball, usually. See above.

KC did, but it was really the game after that against the Titans that frustrated me.

Reference this discussion, my opinion is the Bills are largely dependent on Josh Allen's ability to have any reasonable chance at a Super Bowl. I think he is a significant part of why the O-Line was "so good" at pass blocking while being bad at run blocking. It's not just scheme. Not going to go down that rabbit hole, as there are arguments that JA17 is tough to block for too, but the salient point is: the Bills aren't winning enough games to make it to the Super Bowl much less win one without JA17. So spending money on a backup QB for any reason other than he can help JA17 through film, experience, whatever is wasted money we should spend elsewhere.

Debatable (the "pick 30 isn't much currency portion.) Not that any team definitively will, but they have the opportunity to pick at least the 30th best player coming into the NFL that year (which admittedly might not even be top 150 across the entire NFL.) Let's say Run-CMC is a top 50 player in the NFL in impact (measured by...? Expected value over average? Expected point differential? ETC...but I think most would agree he's above backup QB in impact and somewhere in the upper-tier WR/mid-tier pass rusher/top-tier RB group for impact.) And let's also say he's a top-3 player at his position (unsure due to injury, but for argument's sake.) That draft pick with an average 6-year career is likely to be at least a top-half producer at his position. Not saying making All-Pro, or even consistent Pro Bowl caliber - but the odds are that he will be consistently above average. For at least four years, you'll get that at a lower salary than the (known great) player. The question is, is that top-15 player (at a potentially more critical position to the team considering the trade) and their reduced salary worth less/equal/more than that top-3 player at their position? For many teams, the answer is yes, unless it's a QB.

Technically the "T" in US pronunciation is medial and dropped. However most dictionaries will say the pronunciation of the "T" is either acceptable or at worst nonstandard. How do you say "handsome"? Regarding blocking and not following them; it took me some time moving from football to rugby (I switched in college after a knee injury derailed my less than successful football career - how hackneyed is that?) to remember to score the try as close to the center of the field as possible, allowing for an easier kick afterward. (More correctly it wasn't that I forgot, I just got so excited to finally score that I didn't think about it.) After a second time (I didn't score much...) my coach decided to move me to second row as a "punishment" for practice. I actually preferred it to back, but that's a different story.

Pretend it's mid-Februrary 2020. Houston is coming off an AFC-South winning campaign, beat the upstart Bills in the playoffs, and came a Mahomes-esque comeback away from the AFCCG. Then someone starts a thread saying "There's rumblings that Deshaun Watson is trying to find a way to move on from the Texans." How many of you would have said "Oh yeah, I can see that. That's legit. Especially for a team that is a Super Bowl contender." I don't have any idea of the veracity of the Wilson discussion, but I'm not going to dismiss it out of hand under the "There's no way any team would consider moving a TRUE franchise quarterback" clause. Especially when one of the QBs isn't nearly as young anymore.

I agree that his comments even taken as out of context as they are being shown here aren't news-worthy. Definitely doubt even "behind closed doors" that his teammates would take any offense if you listen to the entire discussion. He was specifically asked about the poor offensive line and WR play, and deflected it pretty well. Would "I/We all have to get better" be more appropriate? Sure, maybe. Yeah, some people use this as a measuring stick of QB capability here. Probably a misguided measuring stick. But as to the definite statement of "Mahomes is better", I do think the Super Bowl and the results show that it isn't either as big a gap or insurmountable a gap as either you or the general public like to believe. "That was just one game" shows what happens to Mahomes when life isn't perfect, and he performed arguably worse than JA17 did in either of his losing playoff appearances.

Hopefully my proctologist didn't get the job just because her mom was a doctor.

Here I thought you were going to go with "Because then we all get to mock it."

Reference Sherman's ability...I realize that the below is 2019 and 2020 wasn't as great. Maybe he's fallen off the proverbial cliff. But to say he's done or even at a Josh Norman-esque level is, I think, premature. https://www.pff.com/news/nfl-pff-rankings-top-25-cornerbacks-through-week-17 1. RICHARD SHERMAN, SAN FRANCISCO 49ERS As PFF’s highest-graded cornerback, Richard Sherman has regained his dominance by perfecting a top-down technique that allows him to use his 6-foot-3 frame in the 49ers' single-high man-to-man or deep Cover-3 zone scheme. Sherman has always been a smart and savvy player who is a perfect fit for press coverage with a mix of both man and zone coverage. He has the NFL’s 10th-best forced incompletion rate (17.6%) and has allowed only one touchdown across 517 coverage snaps. Above all, Sherman has the most coveted trait you want in any pass defender — he doesn’t allow big pass plays downfield. In 2019, he allowed only 8.4 yards per reception, third-best in the league, while just 13 of his 51 targets were converted to a first down, which was the fourth-best total by any player at his position. Sherman plays with plenty of swagger, but his performance is backed up with plenty of substance, as evidenced by the fact that opposing quarterbacks have managed a passer rating of just 46.8 when throwing his way. As he wraps up his ninth NFL season, Sherman has hit the sweet spot of consistency by bringing his A-game to a top-10 defense.

Which is interesting, because the overarching comment on the Bills defense was that it was predicated on disguise and forcing take-aways. The second goes to your point about risk/reward defense and getting the ball back into the offense's hands. To be fair, it wasn't "outsiders" that said the Bills defense is built on taking the ball away - that's straight from the horse's (in this case, players') mouth(s). I haven't yet built the intestinal fortitude to re-watch the AFCCG, but my memory concurs with you that we didn't seem to disguise much. Some fake pressure then drop-back, some Dline dropping into coverage, but it's not an effective disguise if you don't occasionally do what you're pretending to do. I.E. that corner sneaking up or that LB sneaking up to the line - if you always drop them back, it's not really a disguise. It's more of an ignore. Take-away/high-risk/high-reward defense would see that guy sneaking up actually crashing down on a regular basis. Even if it does give play up, you get the ball back. I tend to agree with some others' assessment that somewhere in this game the coaches decided they couldn't score against the Chiefs like they had most of the season, so changed their style of defense. I hate(d) it.

Well. By one of them, sure. And so did we. I think that shows it's better to have a top five QB with a sufficient running game than have a top 3 RB and pretty good passing game. But imagine a top five QB and a good (not even great) running game. You might just have the Chiefs.

If there is any flexibility/subjectivity/room for interpretation it's in whether or not they throw the flag. If thrown - it's a punch and gone. How many times have you seen pushing and shoving and a helmet or facemask get hit in a post-tackle scuffle? Not arguing this specific time as it was a clearly observable and identifiable single person on a single person. But given the general refrain on flags in the postseason for all manner of events that drew penalties during the regular season, I submit this may not have been missed but (maybe snap) decided that it didn't warrant a flag.

Guess we just need to find our new Thurman. Should be easy to find another NFL MVP caliber RB who leads the league in yards from scrimmage over multiple years in the second round again. I mean, everyone says the RB position is over-valued.

Arguably Josh should have been ejected for intentionally throwing the ball at a player's head as well. While I think the first had more malicious intent, I doubt either were meant to hurt the opposing player and both were momentary frustration actions in a game that requires people to be at an above-normal focus and intensity. I.E. While it's difficult to determine where to draw the line, I don't think either warranted an ejection as neither was likely intended to not would cause injury. But if you're going to do it for the first (Jones slap), you probably need to do it for the second (Allen ball throw.)

Let's see, 3pm Eastern Standard Time equates to about 9pm here.... Oh who am I kidding? My VCR just blinks 00:00, like I'm going to figure how to set the timer right anyway. I'll just put my tape deck next to the TV speaker and record the audio.

I know it says it's from the Toronto Sun, but are we sure this wasn't copied from Kazakhstan Twitter account?

Somehow I can see you making your Ron icon's expression while doing that...

To further jump on this (although I realize we're all kind of purposely missing the point)...in that painting the "everybody" is/are the buffalo. That would be more of a (team now called the WFT) vs everybody. Since Tampa Bay would be at home...does that mean on a neutral field the Bills are actually considered 3-point favorites?

I submit there is no such thing as a "pass-only" offense that you can game plan for. There is a reason why RBs are devalued in today's NFL. Even a mediocre running back (I don't consider ours "mediocre" but looking at DVOA if the shoe fits...) can make runs and get yards with a modicum of success and low chance of catastrophic failure. At minimum, a RB carry is an assured way to keep a clock moving. A bad QB means you have a high chance of at best stopping the clock (assuming you don't want to) and at worst a significantly higher chance of turning the ball over. If you ever had a defense that legitimately sold out to stop the pass, you'd have to give it a unique name...I know, we'll call it the "prevent defense." I could run for 4 YPC against a prevent. I didn't even have a problem with the game plan against the Ravens. It set them up perfectly for the one drive we scored. The popular opinion is that when we finally started running the ball is when we finally started moving for a TD drive. I'd say that running worked then because we'd passed so many times, even when the Ravens and everyone thought we'd HAVE to run THIS time...okay THIS time for sure...okay, they've gotta run now right? RIGHT? that when we did we broke off those longer runs. And then it opened up the pass again because they had no idea what we'd do. P.S. a five yard pass to a slot receiver or screen to a RB is still five yards. Who cares if we ran it or threw it?