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DTs aren’t sexy. We’re also probably not picking high enough for a top DE. Great prospects will still be available, but there’s so many options at 9 and so much disagreement about whom to take it’s tough to get psyched. I expect a workmanlike draft that’s more productive than exciting - and I’m really good with that.

Thats usually true, but not in the case of Clowney and the Texans. They placed the non exclusive franchise tag on him. He can negotiate with other teams until he signs it. I do not see where he has done that yet.

That’s my first choice. Also now thinking about Pittsburgh. If they are out of the playoff race and the Bills are still in it, then I’d expect a lot of Buffalonians to make that short trip. The Stillers are usually in it, but it sure seems like it could be a down year for them.

Gotta agree with this. The Bills should’ve had at least one prime time game. The Thanksgiving Game doesn’t technically count as one, but I do view it as equivalent. Even so, the Bills deserve that and at least one additional prime time game. It is disrespectful.

It had been a long time since the Browns had intentionally tanked. Then Sashi Brown took over a few years ago (he was fired when Dorsey was hired). The 0-16 and 1-15 seasons were tank years - although they were expecting a few more wins than that. There certainly were a lot of seasons where they were trying and looked like they were tanking though.

No. Looking to trade him. They’ve been asking for a 3rd. Nobody is in on that, obviously. I expect to see him traded during the draft for a lot less than that.

5th year options are only guaranteed for injury until the first day of the league year when they become fully guaranteed. So if picked up it could be rescinded unless Lawson has an injury that will linger into next season. Picking it up would set the expectations for guarantees and the basic average salary in his next contract however. That’s the issue. If he’s not worth $11M guaranteed with close to that on average then they shouldn’t pick it up. This year will go a long way to determining whether or not he’s worth that. I guess I’d pick it up and try to work out a LTD if he plays well enough to earn a big contract. And I’d rescind it and let him walk if he didn’t.

I’m in agreement. He’s a very good DE with the tools to be great, but he hasn’t been. We’d have to pay the price for an elite DE to acquire him and keep him. That’s a hard pass.

It’s from a Browns site, but they appear to be running the same basic defensive scheme as the Bills. You can see why McD moved to Bills to a a base of Cover 3. I think the Bills are utilizing route matching, but someone that has done some research with All 22 can verify. https://247sports.com/nfl/cleveland-browns/Article/Film-Study-Why-I-Detest-Spot-Drops-in-Zone-Coverage-131106759/

He’d be looking at a 1 year, $28M contract. I can’t imagine him sitting out with that on the table, but who knows? There is one more twist: what about the potential lockout in 2021? How does that play into this? I don’t even think that Seattle could tag him a second time (for 2021) until the CBA is resolved. If they’re going to move him, then the time is before the draft. If they tag him and try to trade him next offseason who knows how much the uncertainty in 2021 will factor into his value.

Seattle can tag Wilson for 1 year for sure and probably 2 years without cap issues. I can’t see him leaving that kind of money on the table by not signing the tag. He might not do it right away, but he’ll donor before the season. if the Giants want him they’re going to have to give up some value. They need him in the fold before camp be it this season or next. And honestly, if it’s going to happen then now is the right time for both teams. Gettleman has extra draft capital this year and it will look like he had a plan all along if he brings Wilson in. Seattle isn’t winning anything this season with or without Wilson so they might was well go full rebuild now and add some draft capital (which they’re sorely lacking as of now).

Yeah. It looks like Wilson want PAID if he’s going to have to live through a total rebuild in Seattle. Or he wants out. Seattle has to get something for him if he isn’t going to play for them. You can’t let a bona fide FQB go for nothing. You need additional picks to speed up your rebuild.

Seattle only has 26 players under contract for next season. That’s odd. They won’t even get many more from this draft class without some trades because they only have 4 picks right now. They’ll certainly have the cap space to franchise Wilson, but I can see why he wants paid or traded. Not really sure what the Seattle plan is right now. 2020 outlook: https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/seattle-seahawks/cap/2020/ Not a lot of high end talent to build around on that list either. Baldwin is the best of the lot and he’s 30.

Maybe so. But the Browns could not have a better fit than Mayfield.

Well, then enjoy the ride! Just give the kid his due if he does well, but doesn’t quite get that gold jacket. And I hope you’re right about him

Of course you’d like that scenario a lot. It values Julio Jones at the 43rd pick of this draft, which is a total joke. (It’s be just slightly better with the addition 3rd mentioned.) No, Atlanta would laugh the Bills offer out of the room if they made that offer. He’s a top 5 WR in the league.

I really like Mayfield’s chances of success right now. Allen is more gifted in certain ways - arm strength and running ability for sure - but still has some areas where he lags way behind. Allen rarely gets the ball out when he hits his drop. Maybe a better supporting cast will help that. Accuracy is still an issue too often too. Not on every throw but still on too many. It’s early and all of these QBs have a lot of years ahead is them. Allen has a lot going for him and we don’t know what his ceiling ultimately will be. Let’s just pump the brakes a little on the sky high expectations and see what happens.

You think Allen is better than Mayfield?

I don’t know if running the ball - and extending plays behind the LOS - like he does is sustainable or not, but I think you have to let him do it. The ball does not come out of his hand when his foot hits on his drops. Maybe that improves, but you can’t count on it. He holds the ball like Roethlisberger does and he’s going to take hits like he does. The good news his that Allen is much more mobile. The bad news is that he’s not as accurate. The rushing yards will have to make up for the lost passing yards. It is a risk, but it’s his only path to success.

We have enough needs that I’d be happy to sign a player like Ansah and then use our high picks to shore up other areas. I’d be excited to see him and Olivier added to this line. That’d make for a formidable pass rush.

Agree totally on passing on WRs with suspect hands in the first round. I love Hock, but any TE is a tough sell at 9 (to me anyway). I’d love a stud DE or DT. Most will. Those of us rooting for him, but tempering early expectations of greatness with reminders that it hasn’t happened yet will be blasted.

Santora’s, Amherst Ale House, Brennan’s or Brick House are your best bets in that area. Those are good to okay depending on what you like. I can’t stand the Irishman, but I know people who really like it. I’ve just never had a good experience there.

Correct. Flipping a QB for a pick usually only happens when you draft that QB and can showcase some quality play from him. Teams are probably a lot more wary of that than they used to be. Other than Garappolo who was the last backup QB that was a big success for the team that acquired him? Favre?

I would hate that draft. I’m not a fan of Gary or Whiteside.

Yeah, he’s going to be a pass rush specialist in the not too distant future - and that’s sure still worth something. The real danger would be having him under a contract that pays him like he’s a full time player when he gets to that point though. If he does walk in FA after this season then we’re probably looking at a 3rd or 4th round comp pick. That has to be weighed against his contract demands. It’d be something at least.