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All of them. I'd start any of them over Tyrod or Peterman. But Rosen will be in the pro bowl in his 2nd season and Lamar Jackson might be in discussion for rookie of the year (but he will never improve after that). They just need to target one and get their favorite no matter what the cost. If they like Lamar Jackson, fine, I think he sucks but he will just as good if not better than Tyrod so trade up and make sure you get him. Same with Rosen, Darnold, Allen, Mayfield. All of them better than what we have. No chance any of them are available at 21 so make your move!

Whaley lost his job the day he traded 2x firsts for Sammy Watkins

I wonder what the difference would be between trading for their #1 vs their #4. They obviously aren't going to give a good deal for 4 if they are trying to sell 1

Why are you against having a franchise QB? The Rams weren't against it when they went all out for Goff

Market value to be respectful or a little below to be team friendly deal. If he wants to play he will play. If he doesn't then I don't want to overpay for someone that really doesn't want to play anymore. He's got kids in school, he isn't playing anywhere else

part of EJ trade package which resulted in Kiko selection (and Gragg). and now none of these players play on their teams

dang, that's pretty disheartening. when it comes back that's usually not a good sign

so? they could have signed another back when he saw how bad he was

there's a lot of factors. top 5 as in what? i absolutely hate Lamar Jackson but he is going to have a lot of early success so people will say see I told you he was good. he's not good, he is what he is. he's going to be very much like Tyrod in that he makes a lot of big plays but can't make the simple plays to drive a team down the field when it matters. same with Mayfield. he's pretty much at his ceiling, he's not going to all of a sudden get better. he could have early success but i don't see him as a long term starter. Josh Allen will probably have zero early success but if he was in the right situation where he could sit for 2 yrs he might end up being the best of the bunch. it's highly unlikely that will happen though. if someone picks a QB top 5 or at the very least top 10, they want them to start right away. he could flame out pretty quick if he doesn't have time to learn and fix his accuracy issues. doesn't mean he's bad, he's just not ready right now. Sam Darnold has poor mechanics and it could be a huge issue but other QB's with mechanics issues have still been able to get the job done. Josh Rosen is as sure of a thing that there has been in a long time but as others have mentioned he could get hurt and not want to play anymore. he's the best of the bunch but if that happens people will label him a bust which isn't true. he will be good when he's on the field. if it's top 5 of who I would draft it's going to be: 1. Josh Rosen 2. Sam Darnold 3. Josh Allen 4. Baker Mayfield 5. Lamar Jackson

oh is he just now getting around to watching film? he shouldn't have been in the mix last season either

yep, I'd give it a 0% chance he signs with another team. he has like 25 kids and he's not leaving them at the start of the school year

you caught me mid-edit too, i was taking out that first part which was uneccessary and a poor attempt at humor. apologies! not to mention he's only 21 yrs old, we will fatten him up over the years. free chicken wings for life!

average would be 9 5/8 and his hands are 9 1/4 which is 9.25 so smaller than average and right at the threshold of almost being too small to play the position. there was a chart posted a while back that showed hand size relative to success in the NFL and I don't think anyone with smaller than 9 has had success at the position. he checks that box but teams in cold weather climates are certainly going to consider that when deciding whether or not to select him

his hands are actually on the small side for a QB. guys like Brees and Wilson have succeeded because of larger hands despite being short. but luckily he somehow grew taller so he's taller than both of those guys anyhow

woops, I thought his hand measured 9.5" at the senior bowl? he's also taller now. wtf??

Josh Rosen was born to be a QB or possibly even engineered in a lab. Oh my

I just crunched the numbers and my analysis shows that Bill Polian is old #analytics

I can't, I'm all in on Rosen. I will settle for 1 of the top 4 if they have evaluated and feel like that is their franchise QB. I will absolutely not accept sitting back and doing nothing. I've been waiting 20 yrs for a QB. I can't wait any longer.

Don't tease me bro

If they trade up and don't get a QB I might be done with this team. I would at the very least take a 2-3 yr break until we get a GM that knows what he's doing

In 3 years we will have all of the pieces you are complaining about. It's a PROCESS. You don't get those pieces first because the rookie QB has to sit for a bit then struggle until they figure things out. By season 2 or 3 is when they start looking the part. So after 3 years all of the pieces you got before getting a QB are moving on in free agency.

If you guys want to shut me up then pray they get Rosen. Otherwise it's going to be me saying I told you so for the next decade

Agreed. for 2018 sounds like they will be focused on running the ball

everything is for sale...for the right price

ABSOLUTELY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!