RunTheBall

I’d agree but if Beane thinks he’s the guy I doubt he takes the chance of moving down. I say that because he’s got a habit of targeting specific players and moving up the board to get them, so I don’t think he’s worried about over-drafting a guy if he’s there.

They fell back to the mean because Dorsey got figured out and he didn’t adjust the offense to the defensive adjustments. I think teams had a good feel for what routes were coming based on the formation and the concepts Buffalo loved to run. They knew if they anticipated and jumped the first 2 reads the pass rush should get there and Josh would be in back-yard football mode. The offense was as good as it was because Josh is an Alien and can make so many off structure plays work. Look at Mahomes and Burrows and how many easy throws to wide open guys they had in every game. It seemed like Josh was throwing into tight windows 90% of the time and that’s on Dorsey. The few times we’d hit Diggs on an easy slant right after the snap I’d yell FINALLY. Knox is very athletic and can run. Dorsey needs to scheme up plays where he is the primary target more often. For that to happen we need improved O-line play and a good #2 WR so he can get creative. Whether he has the brain to scheme up easy plays for our QB is yet to be determined. I hope so but time will tell.

I am a big Dorsey skeptic so yeah I’m putting much of the blame on him because he designs the offense and decides who the primary reads are. 1) Offense came out blowing the doors off teams early in the season 2) Defenses adjusted 3) Dorsey did not 4) Josh got injured (this was a much bigger injury than most understand. He should have sat for 4 games minimum but he is a warrior and played through it. It definitely affected him both mentally and physically and we should give him credit for the W’s and take the decreased stats with a grain of salt 5) Josh lost confidence in his offensive line. There was no way to get into the flow of a game with different O-lineman getting destroyed regularly and Josh not knowing who was going to sht the bed on any given play. He had time to maybe get to read #2 before he had to either run or scamble and go off structure. 6) Yeah Josh could have hit underneath receivers that were open more often, no question. Whether this was injury related, O-line related, where these receivers were in the progression idk. Probably a combination of it all. It’s up to Dorsey to scheme guys open including Knox. Especially in the red zone Knox is a beast, and if he was featured more I think he’d meet expectations. I hope Dorsey takes a big leap as an OC this year because otherwise we are toast.

I don’t have the numbers but Joe Marino did a deep dive on this towards the end of the season. The gist of it is that Knox has NOT been kept in to block, his drop issue has improved significantly, and he is open on routes. Dorsey does not have him high in the progression and Josh reads deep to short. He absolutely needs to be emphasized more in the passing game and not as an outlet. That’s on Dorsey. Josh has said himself when they get Knox involved the offense flows much smoother.

We just spent 5 years with a LB who had elite athletic traits but no instincts. Give me the guy who has great instincts and good athleticism. If that’s Campbell then fine. Personally I don’t think that MLB hole is as deep as everyone thinks. McD is changing the D and the responsibilities of the Mike can be adjusted. If there is a potential great OT or WR on the board I’d take that before LB in the first.

Why are people getting bent over Tim Grahams tweet? It didn’t add anything to the conversation. It didn’t add anything we didn’t already know. Once AZ’s asking price was leaked, every one of us knew Beane wasn’t paying that and likely no other team would as well. So we all knew that unless AZ lowered their asking price (“significant change”), we weren’t pulling that trigger. So what exactly does Tim Graham reveal here? Nothing.

McD has plans to change the D, I think that’s becoming more and more obvious. If we had retained Edmunds they might have just tweaked it, but with Tremaine gone and no one with his athletic traits available to take that role, McD is taking the opportunity to change things up big time. I expect we are going to see a Big Dime package with 3 safeties on the field, our standard Nickle package but the responsibilities will be adjusted, and more varied blitzes from different angles. After a year of tweaking it during the season I’d expect him to name a DC in 2024 but who knows, he may just keep the play calling if it goes well. I’m just glad we aren’t running back the exact same scheme that’s getting stale and is in need of some adjusting.

In! Dhop doesn’t guarantee a SB but it’s definitely a move in the right direction at the right price. I trust Bean to make that call.

1) IDK if this is unpopular but Dorsey’s inability to adjust the offense to the adjustments defenses made against us after the first 1/3rd of the season is the biggest reason we struggled up until tanking in the playoffs 2) Kim Pegula’s health issue had no impact with the on-field performance. Same as the Top’s shooting. Hamlin’s issue had a severe negative impact on the team even with his miraculous recovery 3) Josh’s decision making was very poor in 2022 culminating in the playoff loss. His lack of faith in the O-line was the main reason 4) Beane and McD have no hot seat. There is little pressure from above.

I think it’s pretty simple - the players ran out of gas and the gameplan sucked. Both Dorsey and Frazier were completely outmatched. Even if the players came out of the tunnel fired up and ready to go (which they clearly weren’t) I don’t think we win that game with game plan we had on both sides of the ball.

I’d keep Brown at RT for another season. Dorsey has a specific play called the Brown Turnstile. That’s where Spencer gets smoked immediately so Josh rolls right and throws bombs. We see it often.

I remember the day when we sucked and the best part of the season was the free agency period when we’d overpay to bring in some declining big name player and hope would spring anew I’m glad those days are gone and we have a GM who swings for the fences from time to time but also doesn’t feel the need to make the fans happy with splash free agency signings right off the bat. My gut says they are pushing for Wagner to fill the gaping LB hole then we will fill the other holes with mid-range free agent signings before the draft. I don’t expect a big WR trade but wouldn’t mind it.

Solid. Good to hear.

Until I saw he signed with the Bears I thought McBeane was going to keep him at a ridiculous amount. I’m happy I was wrong and I think it shows the evolution at OBD in their thinking about how to construct the roster. My guess is Beane floated an extension during the early part of the season and knew right then he was going to lose Edmunds when he got rebuffed. So now we get to re-allocate resources to the offense which has been somewhat neglected the past couple years. I wish Tremaine well, he will be tough but not impossible to replace and certainly not worth 18 million a year.

Fletcher was the classic TBD whipping boy who was blamed for tackling too far down the field yet went on to have a solid career after we ran him out of town. Edmunds is a good LB, he’s not 18-20 million a year good. Reid/Mahomes abuse him regularly, using his lack of instincts against him. Burrows had no problem completing short passes over the middle despite Edmunds 27 foot wingspan. I like Tremaine and am all in on keeping him at a reasonable price but he’s not signing for 15 mil/year. I still think McBeane love some Edmunds though so until I see he’s signed somewhere else I’ll keep banging that drum.

This team has way too many Ed Olivers. Guys with perceived talent who show flashes but are not consistent game changers, disappear in the playoffs, then want to get paid like they are All-Pro (I have no problem with players getting paid I just don’t want us to be the ones to overpay) IDK if this is a talent evaluation problem or poor development from our assistant coaches Can anyone tell me why Washington still has a job? Seriously, I’m not a D-line guru but has he developed one guy to their potential?

Thank you! The constant doom and gloom every time another team signs a marginal player is hilarious.

The writing was on the wall with Poyer last off season. I’ve been saying for years McBeane were going to sign Edmunds to a large extension and value him more than we do, so I’ll believe he’s gone when he signs somewhere else. I would have thought Beane would sign him during the season, and maybe he tried, but what he’s doing now is waiting to see what Edmunds can get on the open market and then see if we can come close. Beane has a number in mind, we are going to find out if other teams see him as worth more than we fans do.

I think it’s pretty obvious McBeane wanted a new play caller on defense and let Frazier save face by saying he’s taking a year off and not needing to announce they weren’t going to renew his contract. Now why Washington is still coaching the D-line when that unit has underachieved for years I can’t explain. Not one D-lineman has been coached to his perceived potential. Maybe Groot, we will see. The rest are either an indictment on Beane’s ability to evaluate D-line talent or Washington’s ability to develop them.

A bunch of millineals and Gen Z worked up over an instagram follow. Friggin Gold Jerry! Who’d a thunk it?

Not holding KC’s receivers right off the line during 13 seconds was complete coaching malpractice and even if McD didn’t call that play he’s responsible for not overruling Frazier. Frazier is done. I don’t care what the regular season looks like. Getting destroyed in 3 straight playoff games is more than enough evidence he can’t get us over the hump.

Poyer is done. He’s played great for us, a true warrior. But he’s an aging vet playing through multiple injuries who’s looking to get paid. I get it from his point of view, but unless he comes back on a somewhat team friendly deal I can’t see us retaining him.

Trimball was wrong more often than he was right with player injuries this season. He’s not a medical doctor he’s a doctor of physical therapy. Anyway, he’s correct about the elbow influencing short throws but those are more the screens, bubble screens and wheel routes where he’s throwing at or behind the line of scrimmage. The intermediate game didn’t suffer because of Josh’s elbow, it suffered because Dorsey sucked at making adjustments to what defenses did to take away his bread and butter concepts. Teams schemed to take away the first couple of reads on the high/low concept and crossers. Because our O-line sucked, Josh had no time to get further in his progression and turned into “Make a play Josh”. The offense had good stats because Josh is an alien, not because Dorsey schemed up easy open throws. That’s going to be the biggest question mark going forward with Dorsey. I fully expect the offense to come out guns blazing. Once teams get some tape, they will scheme to slow it down. Can Dorsey then adjust to those adjustments? We will find out. If he doesn’t, the team will make another early exit.

They didn’t get away from what they were doing well, teams schemed to take it away. They had 8 weeks of game film, saw what Dorsey liked to call regularly, then took the early reads away. Dorsey never adjusted or his adjustments sucked given the O-line limitations.

Josh should have sat out 4 weeks after the partial UCL tear. The fact that he didn’t and we still were able to win games - man, what a friggin warrior. It definitely affected his accuracy and ability to make behind the LOS throws as those put more stress on the elbow, so the bubble screens and rare wheel route went out the window. There is a lot of good content out there breaking down why the Offense started to stall, especially Cover-1’s stuff. The main issue was as his elbow improved, Dorsey absolutely crapped the bed. The combo of Dorsey getting figured out and Josh getting hurt caused the lull after Week 9. Josh got better, Dorsey didn’t. Teams figured out Dorsey’s goto plays and so schemed to take away Josh’s first 2 reads. Since our O-line was a friggin sieve, especially Roger Turnstile Saffold, Josh never had the time to get further in the progression so it always looked like the play call was “Hey Josh, go make a play” Good play callers adjust to the defensive adjustments. Dorsey never did. Moving forward can he? Idk. We are going to find out. Without a significant overhaul of this horrendous offensive line I don’t think it matters who’s calling the plays.