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I’m just waiting for all of the Pats*** apologists hiding in plain sight on this board to come out and say how Peyton just wasn’t good enough to beat Brady and all of this is sour grapes because everyone is so envious of their success. You know they’re thinking it. Bill Belichick is one of the greatest coaches of all time, there’s no doubt, but his relentless pursuit of success crosses the line and tarnishes what he could have accomplished playing by the rules. Brady is just a very good QB who got put into the best possible position. If he wins it all in Tampa I’ll give him credit, but I don’t think he will.

Mike McCarthy has made two HORRIBLE in-game decisions in successive weeks and only Atlanta’s ineptness on an onside kick has prevented the Cowboys from being 0-2. I’m starting to remember the Green Bay fans’ complaints about him...

The Jests are the new Browns. Re: Darnold -- I don't dislike him, but I also don't think he has the "want to" that Josh has. I think he could be a very good QB in the right organization but at this point I can't imagine swapping him for Allen.

More encouraging is that he is using them. Eight different receivers in each of the first two games. Take away one, he'll go to another.

BBFS is a powerful force. Do not succumb to the dark side.

Yes, it is. And these are not young guys; they are veterans who know what winning looks like.

Mack Brown keeps texting Beane, telling him "really, Antonio is worth another look."

Which I did not do. I've slammed those who have held on to their pre-draft notions despite actual NFL evidence to the contrary.

PFF is awesome!

OF COURSE there was risk. Nobody is suggesting otherwise. The point is that for every negative brought up, one could pretty easily see an explanation. Bad footwork? Nobody showed him how to do it. Game processing? Not enough reps. He only really played for two seasons at Wyoming. Yes, he had coaches, but nobody can convince me he received good coaching in college. Anyway, it's all water under the bridge now. And yes, Kiper can rightfully claim he was on the Josh Allen bandwagon. It may wind up being the biggest feather in his cap ever.

Love it!

I'm not critiquing their model for potentially "missing" on Josh Allen...I'm not even singling out FO. I think it's great they came out with a statement that recognized their model may have been way off with Josh. My point, I think, is that there are so many people who don't know a damn thing about analytics who took these pre-draft projections as gospel and keep hanging onto them as if the worst thing in the world is to accept that sometimes people break the mold. I saw a fantasy football guy on Twitter "critiquing" Josh's game against Miami because he threw a couple of "almost interceptions." That schitt doesn't happen to any other QB who has a game like that. Analytics are great; what's better is when they're not viewed as the be-all-end-all. I admit when I'm wrong all the time; just ask my wife. It's not a weakness. There were signs that Josh didn't "fit" into a typical analytics model. Most missed them.

You are proving my point. Nobody bothered to go beyond that to see if there are circumstances beyond the stats to explain things one way or the other. Now, admittedly, that process could be exhaustive if they did it for every prospect, but even a cursory look at Allen's background would have revealed a kid who was a "late bloomer" and didn't grow up playing QB. Who didn't know he had to send tapes to schools to get a look? This was an easy one. My arguments over the past two years have not been "black and white" -- they've looked for those exact nuances you are discussing. Your condescending tone attempting to paint me as a simpleton is misplaced.

You know what I saw? Watch the replay from the end zone of the TD to Davis. I did not realize how GREAT of a throw that was. Dare I say, “elite.”

2017 and 2018 don’t mean a hill of beans at this point. Last season the Bills gave themselves a chance in every game except one (Philly). Yes, I’m hoping they finish the job more frequently starting this week.

Shh...Daboll doesn’t have a clue and is a terrible OC. That’s what I’ve heard repeatedly around here.

I have a question: what teams don’t struggle to beat good teams? I mean, if you don’t struggle to beat good teams you should be 16-0, right? The point being, as long as the Bills are putting themselves in a position to win against every opponent the “struggle to beat good teams” thing sounds pretty silly. The next step is to get over the hump against “good teams” more often than not.

The problem is that NONE of these analytical projections of Josh as a pro bothered to look at WHY he had accuracy (read: completion %) issues at Wyoming. They simply said “he’s inaccurate” and rolled from there. What I and several others around here have been saying for the past two years is that there were very good reasons why Allen was not a polished product in college — he was light years behind the other QBs drafted in his year in terms of experience, reps, coaching, etc. But what he did have — freakish athletic ability and desire — were what those who liked him didn’t overlook. Beane and the Bills scouts deserve so much credit for believing that with the proper coaching and time Josh could become a very good pro. All we have seen from Josh is a consistent trajectory upwards, and I posted multiple times this summer that there was NO reason to believe that would not continue given his work ethic and the tools at his disposal. The people who are still clinging to their pre-draft analysis of Josh Allen are fools.

And man, the silence from those around here who have trashed Josh from the get-go is deafening. Amazing how the negative ninnies who always pass themselves off as “realists” suddenly disappear when the team is doing well. Makes you stop and think...

I have come to absolutely love GMFB. It's a part of my daily routine. They are all great, but Kyle and Kay are my favorites for sure.

The passes don't throw themselves. That's all I have to say.

I'm really enjoying seeing folks start to come around on Josh. We just need to be ready for the haters to come out in full force if/when he has an off day. All QBs have them, even the great ones.

Thank you for posting this. PFF hires *anybody* to watch game tapes and assign arbitrary grades based upon what they see, with no knowledge of play call or contemplation of game situation. I know this because I actually "applied" to do this a few years ago on a lark as I thought it might be a fun hobby. There's no analytics going on.

Damn straight. Two out of three knocked out of the park. And, you don't get it. Again. Everybody knows who the Bills "could have" had and my post acknowledges the Jones pick was a mistake.

Made a really nice TD catch for the Raiders last night. I didn’t watch much of the game but Zay is a good guy and it’s nice to see him have some success. Still consider that a pretty significant “miss” by McD (pre-Beane) in the 2nd round but crap happens. The Bills have moved on with a great WR corps and there’s no reason to hate on the guy.