jletha

This. This board has been awful to read lately because everyone is POSITIVE that the Bills 1) Didnt want to start Josh this early 2) are doomed to go 0-16 3) are going to ruin Josh. All of this after 1 single game in which Josh barely played. The Bills brass wouldnt have traded McCarron if they werent comfortable with Josh playing this early. The O-line did not look good in game one but one bad loss doesnt define a season. A couple years ago we started out 0-2 and looked terrible before rattling off 4 straight wins. I remember in 2011 we beat the Chiefs in week one 41-7. The Chiefs finished with a better record than us. It is ridiculous to make sweeping generalizations about an entire season and condemn a front off after one (ONE!!!) game. There is evidence on both sides of the "Can you ruin a young QB by playing him too early" debate. IMO if comes down to mental fortitude. Josh has shown he has that so I for one am all in favor of this and very much looking forward to the rest of the season and next season.

Im of the opinion that they expected, or at least were quite comfortable, with Allen playing significant time this season. Otherwise you would never have traded McCarron and left Allen as the only back up. Aside from incompetence injury would have forced Allen on the field, they must have thought of that. TBD is positive that the staff wanted him to sit the entire season but I think they were OK with what they saw from Allen in preseason. Im excited for this Sunday.

At least we did something. And he knows some of the concepts since he went through camp but if he couldnt beat out anyone on the roster then, what does that say for him?

I keep seeing that "The plan was to sit him the whole season" being posted here. If that truly was the plan, that they didnt want Josh to see the field for 10-16 weeks then why would they have traded McCarron. Even if you thought Peterman would be competent, you always have the risk of serious injury. They MUST have felt comfortable enough with Josh being a back-up role. I doubt they anticipated that he would be forced to start by NP being a disaster but they nonetheless the knew him seeing significant time was a very real possibility the second they traded away AJ. Unless they planned to bring in a vet if NP went down, and in that case they would be doing that now.

I really have no faith in McBeane to evaluate QB talent at all. First they agreed that Peterman was ready to start against the Chargers last year and actually gave the team a better chance to win over TT. That decision made them look foolish. Then they trade TT and bring in McCarron, move up and draft "their guy" Josh Allen. All through preseason they rotated to give everyone a chance and they come out believing that Nate was again the best guy for the job and so much so that they trade McCarron. Then Nate goes out there and embarrasses them again. How in the hell could they start him again?? What has Nate Peterman ever done and how does he keep convincing these coaches that hes ready to go? Is he just a practice hero? They have to start Allen because nobody else on the team can possibly have a shred of confidence in Peterman and starting him would signal to every player that they are not committed to winning football games

Only when Fergy has figured out who is good or not can we play. Until then its all preseason.

I moved out there in 2015 (have since moved back to Rochester) but it was my home away from home. I met my fiance there and many friends. The key thing about it is that the games are at 10 am so you usually only get the diehard fans that come every week and you get to know everyone. Also there is not food so therefore no tables of people sitting around, everyone is standing for the most part and it makes it a much better environment.

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What if the games were played in reverse order, or if our game took a little longer and we won AFTER the Bengals game? Then would the drought be over? Do you just want a win and youre in scenario? Because you seem to be placing a lot of weight on the fact that the Bengals went longer than ours did, which seems dumb.

I appreciate Astro, and always read them but he is certainly a glass half full guy and I trust Joe B, Fairburn, etc more. They go to every practice and watch some tape so they have full context. I remember during EJs time Astro was very kind to EJ all while the media was crushing him every practice. This forum had many people convinced that the media had an agenda against EJ and that Astro was reporting the real EJ. Well....we all know what happened.

I have been trying to tell this to my friends and family. Daltons throw all of the sudden made us WAY better than we are in their eyes. I dont actually expect us to make the playoffs next season unless we have a spectacular draft. I like McD and the mentality he brought to the team and we have some good players from last years draft but we just are not a good football team. We are a lucky 9-7 because of turnovers as you say. The Dolphins/Raiders (someone mentioned the 2015 Jets as well as another good example) from last year can show you that one season of exceeding expectations does not mean you get better the next year. Often times you regress. Im not saying that its guaranteed we regress, I just want people to slow their roll with this team. We are not one piece away from a Superbowl. We are likely 2-3 years away with solid drafting and player development.

That is exactly what I hope happens. I think itll work but that is my one, albeit small, concern. Basically add him in organically to the scheme were currently running, not run our offense through him.

I agree with the Panthers fan that talked him not getting separation and that their offense opening up without him. He is fat and slow and not somebody we should rely on as a #1. I really think not having Sammy has helped Tyrod learn to run an offense. I am happy with the trade because we get a big target and at a good price but I really dont want to force the ball to him a lot. Tyrod has really developed lately at keeping his eyes down field and finding open guys. I want him to keep developing and only use KB when he is truly open. Perhaps in the RZ we can lob it up to him but other than that he needs to just be another piece, not a game changing acquisition.

7th is the pick we got for the Cardale trade too

Luck is on the Colts...duh

Were 15 in ESPN. No movement from last week. http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/page/NFLpowerrankingsx171003/nfl-2017-week-5-power-rankings-kansas-city-chiefs-green-bay-packers-atlanta-falcons-top-our-board

my co-worker (Packers fan) was complaining this morning how they were gonna let him go because he basically plays everything for them. I jokingly told him we were in the market for a S. I approve.

Seriously. TT is not the savior but we have a solid starting caliber QB for peanuts basically. The guy wants to be in Buffalo and took a pay cut to do so. Look at the numbers being thrown around for Glennon and what Osweiler got. the Redskins have given Cousins $40+ guaranteed with no long term deal. QB money is nuts and we have a bargain that does not lock us into anything really.

Seahawks scouted Wilson so hard that they paid Matt Flynn a kings ransom just because theyre nice guys. Cowboys tried to draft Johnny Football and wanted Lynch/Cook last year but got their consolation prize with Dak. Obviously the Cowboys are geniuses and we need Jerry to win.

But we only worry about his current contract if hes traded, that way his contract is traded with him. If KC just releases him then we would have to negotiate a new deal with him and would be in competition with other teams trying to sign him.

Kirk Cousins has shown to be better than TT and is still very young with none of the injury concerns that Romo brings. If we can get him I think that he is the best choice. Second choice would be Tyrod.

That analysis is 100% completely worthless. Even if you take the conclusion that the Bills scored 20.4 PPG as legit (which it is not), how does that rank among the league? That could be the #1 scoring offense for all I know when you remove subjective garbage time scores from every team in the league. You say 20.4 PPG as if its some negative thing yet you literally only have a single data point.

Franchise WR dont just grow on trees and most of the time they are a direct product of the offense/QB, not the other way around. Remember when the Steelers were idiots for letting Mike Wallace walk, oh dont worry A.Brown turned into the best WR in the league. Who will Rogers throw to if we get rid of Greg Jennings? Ok I guess Jordy is pretty good. All of those years with Megatron and Detroit did very little with him, same with Larry in Arizona. Look at how successful the Pats have been with replacement parts year after year. Who the hell was a WR on the Panthers last year when they made the superbowl? Tedd Freakin Ginn? Name a starting WR on the seahawks when they won their superbowl? It was not A-list "legit WR". The Browns had Josh Gordan last year and sucked. These "stud" WR are great at catching highlight passes and they certainly are valuable to some extent but they dont make the offense go really. Look how much Atlanta has struggled through the yeas even with Julio. This post is so dumb. No team in the league has 6-7 "legit" WR. When it looks like they do its because they have a good QB that makes those WR look good.

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I also forgot Reggie Bush