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Seems like most people are forgetting that Watson requested a trade BEFORE any of the sexual allegations came out against him. People thought that they only came to light because he was trying to force his way out. So...even if none of the allegations came out he still would not want to play for them. So this probably isnt just Houston deciding not to play him, its Deshaun deciding that he still doesnt want to play for the Texans. They are at am impasse: He wont play, they cant trade him.

I would disagree that the largest gap is at QB. Allen was very close to Mahomes statistically last year and while I think Mahomes is better there are other positions with larger gaps. Particularly at TE. I think Kelce allows them to exploit defensive matchups that we cant because of his versatility. Beyond that their defensive line was much better than ours. Im not sure if you swap Mahomes and Allen last season the result of the AFC Champ would be different.

Im sure this has been discussed, its a long thread, but aside from whether I prefer a city dome or a suburban open-air what I really dont like is not playing in Buffalo during Allens prime years.

I will say Stevie. He would have been great in the role Beasley plays now because he was always open underneath but he was forced to be the defacto #1. Plus the QB play didnt help

I had endless discussions with friends that misremember the details of the Bills drought. We were a losing team in totality but year-in, year-out we were never in discussion of the worst team in the league save for 2010. And until 2009 we felt a few steps away from the playoffs. 09-14 the wheels fell off a bit but even still 6 wins isnt god awful. Its just have 6 wins so many years in a row.

The EJ Manual pass to Chris Gragg who was standing out of bounds was bad.

the cap is very nebulous. Just restructure, move money around. Im not saying itll happen, just that having Hodgins and Sanders on the team looking "good in camp" should NEVER stop you from adding Julio Jones in an all-in year like this.

Hodgins looking good in mini-camp means absolutely nothing. If Jones is available for a decent price you get him. This is silly logic

Beane hasnt been overcommited either way to RAS score. Historically he will take guys all over, but this draft was different. Just for reference, some notables: Josh Allen: 9.67 Singletary: 1.72 Knox: 9.25 VoSean: 0.22 Zach Moss: 2.88 Zay Jones: 9.71 (not Beane I realize, just thought it was funny) Ed Oliver: 9.87 Ford: 6.33 Taron Johnson: 6.29 Epenesa: 4.07 This draft though, everyone was over 7 I believe except for our 7th rd WR. https://relativeathleticscores.com/2020/12/31/buffalo-bills-ras-history/

I really hope this is a show of commitment and they negotiate a deal that *drastically* lowers the $13 million next year. I am all for a longish term deal that is fair based on production with some level of projection in the form of incentives.

Interesting Oweh doesnt veen crack the top 5 edge rushers, Ive seen him mocked to us a few times. He is a very polarizing player it seems.

Well this thread is about a player getting drafted after a major injury...so forgive me for assuming they were referencing McGahee's knee injury since they also mentioned another player we drafted that had injury history. But perhaps they meant something else.

Is this a joke? McGahee played for 10 season, multiple 1000 yard seasons and multiple pro bowls.

I think about this as well. Because Allen wasnt given much of an opportunity, Buffalo was the first time he ever had *real* coaching. No disrespect to Wyoming but theyre not Oklahoma, USC, Alabama, OSU, etc. And before that was JuCo for him. In that respect it does make sense that he hadnt even began to scratch his potential in college. But of course that doesnt then mean that every QB from a less prominent school will magically flourish in the NFL. I do think Allen is an outlier there.

https://www.theringer.com/2021/4/28/22406266/quarterback-development-nfl-draft-josh-allen-buffalo-bills Lots of GMs and coaches have the "I can develop him" ego and it only takes one to convince themself about a certain player to draft them. We will likely see a few swings and misses while teams search for "their Josh Allen" until its figured out how rare Josh exactly is. Also, if you click on the video linked at the top of the article it highlights a really bad throw on an easy target but if you backup 5 seconds you see a laser thrown on the run perfectly placed, and mind you Wyoming is up 42-0 haha.

I hope it doesnt come to it, but I could see it happening. You could maintain the salary cap and have some structured allotment of money, that increases for the worse teams, that each team has to spend on incoming players and then every player coming out of college is a FA. That way the worst teams would have the most money to sign guys. It would be different though for sure.

But why couldnt Edmunds sign a contract that matches his production on the field. If he wants a market-setting contract, its an easy NO. If he wants a reasonable contract given his good-not-great play thats a different story. It seems the discussion on Edmunds is whether hes worth a BIG contract but why is it assumed we, or someone else, would ever give him such a contract?

Probably would use this as leverage to get a new Stadium. If we build a brand new downtown stadium I could see the draft coming potentially.

Yes I am going with my family. We are all vaccinated, besides the kids, but its not required to just go to the event. Its only required to get into the arena and have a seat to watch the draft which i=Im not interested in. We have a hotel right downtown. There is going to be a large open air Draft Experience with food/drinks/games what not and youll be able to see the screen where the draft is happening and kinda mill about. Inside the stadium will be some games ad things like kicking a FG, running a 40 yd dash etc. This requires a reservation which is free and each reservation can be for 2 adults and up to 5 children. Download the NFL OnePass app to reserve. In addition the Rock and Roll HOF is right there and I may head down to the HOF. Either way I veiw it as an excuse to get out of the city after being hesitant to travel for so long.

Mahomes abused Edmunds, it was ugly. He over-pursued many times.

overall I agree except that because he was a first rounder there is a slight difference because you need to decide on the 5th year option. They need to decide this offseason if they pick that up or not. Its a pretty big decision.

Unless Edmunds has a Josh Allen level leap in ability I dont think they will retain him. He is a fine player but not great. All the excuses from Cover1 and Nate Geary...why are we making excuses for a guy that is drafted that high and is a supposed athletic freak. Hes a good player but hes not all-pro great like some wanted. He is serviceable but not someone you can depend on all the time. Just look at this past season. if the scheme doesnt perfectly fit him or Milano gos down he disappears. Why would you want that guy as your defensive anchor. He should transcend scheme and injuries more often than not. I think if he was a slam dunk to be our long term MLB we would not have signed Milano. I dont think Beane would wrap that much long term money into the LB position. So Milano getting the extension is a bit of a signal that he is ok letting Edmunds go, IMO.

For the trade to be worth it he doesnt have to be the best TE in the league, he just has to contribute to us winning a SB. I think he can do that.

I think most would disagree about the "modest difference in production" assessment. Analysis of Pitts is as arguably the best TE prospect ever.

I would LOVE to trade Edmunds and 30 (and something else potentially) for Pitts. I think Edmunds is full of potential but so far hasnt quite lived up to it. The 5th year option is going to be a tough decision on him...so let it be someone elses decision. We just paid Milano, I think its unlikely we pay Edmunds similarly. Trade him now and get a gamechanger for us.