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He won the Vezinas and Harts but he was not looked at in the same historical light as Roy or Plante or Sawchuk at the time. Main reason was no cups. Second was being in small market Buffalo. And third was the European bias which was much stronger back then. Another reason is he came to the league when he was nearly 30 playing most of his early career in the Soviet controlled Czech Republic so his win totals weren’t high. It was only after retirement did he start being seen as the #1 or #1A goalie of all time (next to Roy).

I agree. But there are debates happening about him.

Appreciate you checking. We’re starting to see that Allen is already at the Andrew Luck level, a guy people are already pushing for the HOF. Allen keeps this up for 10 years and he will be remembered the way Hasek is in the NHL. Known as a great goalie during his time, but only appreciated as one of the GOATs after his career ended and people became gobsmacked after looking at his stats.

Do we have the same list for total touchdowns?

You’re a really obvious troll. You should watch Einstein to see how to do it better. He at least pretends to be a positive fan sometimes. Mix it up a bit!

BigDingus is a great username for the OP.

This isn’t a football thread, it’s a guy crying out for a therapy session.

Nice rebuttal. I was thinking the same thing. The logic he used to dismiss the OP he didn’t use to counter it. What he’s really saying is “negative situations are ALWAYS our fault. No excuses allowed under any conditions whatsoever.” That’s what happens when people think with negative emotions instead of their brain or gut. “No excuses” is an interesting argument. You notice it is a certain type of hard ass, not always bright type of fan that parrots this. Basically there is truth to it. We all have independent agency to change our outcome in life. That sort of American pull yourself up by your bootstraps mentality. But it’s never black and white. Even the greatest men and women who ever lived had ups and downs. Life moves in cycles. Sometimes the universe punches you in the mouth when you least expect it. The sign of a great person at that moment is showing resiliency and getting back up and punching back. For these fans, the fact you got knocked down already means you lost. Basically these fans lack the wisdom of life, despite whatever age they are. They don’t understand cycles, resilience, and the way of the world. I’d argue they have little victory in their own lives to understand what it looks like to win at this type of level. There is a time and place for “no excuses” and “no moral victories”. But there also is a place for them when you fight your hardest against the flow of the river and come up short. Josh Allen’s career has been the epitome of this. He literally pushes against the walls of the matrix and causes glitches which are then seen in the strange narratives around him. These concepts are simply over the poster’s head. That is why he had a blind spot to his fallacy that you called out and an emotional bias towards the negative.

Kicking in perfect weather.

You may note that many of these same fans complain after other blowout wins by criticizing timeout management or an Allen pick or something else. What they’re really saying is that every game must be a perfect blowout like the Cowboys game. Completely out of line with the reality of football, even for dynasty teams of the past. This is going to be a little deep but they are miserable because they project the same thought process on themselves. They must be perfect or THEY are not good enough. And since they’re clearly not perfect, that is why they are so miserable. They then project it on the team. And we look at them and wonder what the hell is wrong with them.

I love the concept. Intensity was high and reminded me of high level soccer intensity which is unbelievable. But I agree they need better content between plays.

Josh Allen Hattrick. 1 passing td 1 rushing td 1 Hail Mary interception

Well thank God that nonsense is over. Now let’s win out and not have to worry about these scenarios.

Wonder why they stopped running the Von Miller / Diggs ad too haha. Advertisers were slow to include Allen because of the national narratives. It would only make sense they would be finicky if the Bills played poorly. I do see him on many graphics on websites and so on, but those probably have a shorter decision cycle than TV ads.

Recipe for Bills blowout tonight.

I swear these people who keep saying “if X happens then we don’t deserve Y” have self esteem issues.

This was the rumor over the summer. The rumor actually started in OP and I know of people close to the department who confirmed it, but then again they’re not in the department so who knows. On this site, even if it was true, nobody will admit it. Which is actually a good thing. My thoughts are, there is probably some truth in it. But let’s move on. Anybody who has ever been in a toxic relationship knows that these things happen and are a part of life. I’ll also add that events like this, and all the other difficult things that happened last year may have saved Dorsey’s job and took the miscroscope off him during the offseason. At least until Diggs lost his cool during training camp.

What are your thoughts on the strategic vision remaining the same, except we now have a much more competent OC?

My sense is that the "big picture concept" that Brady is doing is the same "concept" that Dorsey tried to do but in an exceptionally incompetent manner. What I mean by "big picture concept" is to transition our offense around Allen from one that Allen carries by himself to one that carries him and allows him to make great plays only when we need great plays from him. Basically, we want to give Allen what Mahomes has had since his 1st day in the league. If you ignore the negative connotation of the top image, you'll see what I mean. Mahomes has been carried by the amazing parts around him, which allowed Mahomes to max out his skills and make the great plays only when he needed to. Allen on the other hand, has had to drag the team around him to glory. You saw this at it's peak during the Daboll years where Daboll once ran Allen on a designed QB run during the Bucs, two plays after Allen injured himself. They were running him into the ground. McDermott and Beane (correctly) made this realization and wanted a new OC who would bring this mentality to the offense. This is where Dorsey came in, and was given the assignment from the bosses, to create an offense that does not live and die with Allen's legs and heroics. This was actually the right move. The problem was, as you noted in the OP and opened my eyes to, was Dorsey's extreme incompetence at play calling and preparation. The move was right, but the wrong man was given the job. What we're seeing from Brady is the same concept as the image on the top that Dorsey attempted, but with solid (and growing) efficiency. This is why we are seeing the run game more, Kincaid more, and Diggs and Davis less. We're balancing out the offense the correct way, allowing Allen to use his legs, but not living and dying with his legs and arm like Daboll did. Dorsey unfortunately took some years off of Diggs prime, and may have ruined Davis mentally just as he was ready to breakout. To answer your question succinctly, I think we want to build a team that can win with Allen as a game manager (like we saw against Dallas), while making the great plays when we need them (the way a true game manager like Purdy couldn't if the chips were on the table and a DE was in his face and his routes weren't ready).

I have no idea what any of this has to do with the OP. The entire fanbase quit after the Broncos game. The only person with hindsight issues is you.

Look at the date he wrote the post. A few days after Dorsey was fired. This guy made the best prediction I have ever seen a poster make on TBD.

Please explain your thought process in detail.

“Anybody but Allen”

Been waiting a month for somebody to say this.

Just stream it from one of the Reddit streams.