Wayne Cubed

Not just the Miami DL bearing down on Allen, how about the fact that CB Jack Jones is ready to drive on the ball if Allen attempts to throw to Shavers. There's every chance he can break that up even if Allen somehow can get it up and over the defender.

Exactly. They have the WRs that can win their routes, it's not the personel groupings.

I don't really think it's the personal grouping that's the issue, the Rams are very successful out of 13 and run it more often than the Bills.

In formations, first number is the number of running backs. The second number denotes number of tight ends. When someone says running 13, they mean there is 1 rb and 3 te's in the formation.

And now we are going to be in a shoot out

Also, what’s the chance the Bills are looking for a WR in the 1st round of 2026 anyways? And you get Waddle as a known quantity.

I think it still somewhat applies, not even because of knowing draft order but also no knowing value of that pick. How often are 32 1st round grades given? If there’s only 15 in 2026, pick 16s value isn’t really of a 1st, because there’s not 1st round talent there. It’s more like a 2nd. And the uncertainty is what degrades picks so far in future. Not necessarily the order of picks. So maybe a 3rd is slightly over degrading it… but it’s still quite possibly valued as a 2nd.

It’s hard to assign value to an unknown. Yes it’ll be a 1st in 2027 but as we know, there aren’t 32 1st round grades in any given draft. You can’t just say a 2026 1st has the same value as one in 2027.

A 2026 3rd, at this point is roughly worth a 4th because of uncertainty of where the Bills will finish. Maybe it’s still a 3rd because of where we are in season. A 2027 1st is worth a 3rd roughly (degrades a round per year away). So Beane offered a 3rd and a 3rd(4th) for Waddle and you think that’s an overpay? Sorry but that’s an underpay for me.

No probably not. I’m not arguing against it. This just feels like a PR move from the Bills/Beane.

It’s been a while that’s for sure.

2027 1st round pick doesn’t scream of desperation. A 2026 maybe does, and the Dolphins turn that down. To me if they do that, that says to Dolphins fans look we are committed to Waddle. A 2027 1st, because it’s high, is a look we tried offer.

Yea, it’s just 2 trades that were never realistic options being in division.

This isn’t information the Dolphins are releasing, there’s no reason for them to. Sorry, it screams of a PR move from Bills/Beane to release this to say to fans “look we tried.” But the fact remains they are in this position from moves they’ve made themselves. They had options this offseason that didn’t involve trading at the deadline and try to look good doing it.

So punting the ball inside the 15 is a given is it? And you also used the 4th and 17 as an example. So what’s 25 more yards to Mahomes based on that logic.