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Seemed obvious edge was where need and value were converging so it was just a matter of which they felt fit. I didn’t watch any too terribly closely so I didn’t have a huge preference but you have to go hit the QB so it was going to be a pass rusher and they picked a productive one. with a top pick inside and a big brand new pay day outside.... it just wasn’t likely. if beane had a crystal ball I wonder if he would have spent money elsewhere if he knew jok would be there

yea- we will see if it ends up a good pick but even if it doesn’t work out it wasn’t a bad pick

trade up for RB, or take a 3rd lb? it’s got to be the DE there

Agreed. Unless you have a plug and play guy that fills a major hole, go get a rare specimen and see what happens

where does jok get reps though?

generally, yea, the gap between a handful of options that fit feels small... but the 5th year is nice of going Edge or CB

Hell Brady was 199! Let’s never talk about any trends due to exceptions

How many do you think we need to be in the running?!?

if it’s bad enough to be reported you have to assume it’s pretty substantial with most Nfl guys. they play with like 4 injuries we couldn’t get out of bed with without hitting the injury report. Once it’s bad enough to get reported - it’s bad.

I feel like he’s less excited about reuniting with a qb

Yup. Often these guys get ripped for getting it wrong when they report on discussions happening but a whole lot has to come together for discussions to actually become deals

That the discussions may or may not result in a contract and trade being agreed to is a totally different element and would not prove discussions were or were not happening.

it’s almost like the news he broke is that the discussions were happening

I get there’s variance any given year but I don’t recall ever seeing a draft expert saying there were 38 first round grades... but plenty of times (essentially every year) only 20-24. it’s almost like scarcity creates drama and drama creates clicks.

I like having screens underneath with a downfield passing game. Gives two layers to defend and slows down pass rushers. Both key to downfield success. I don’t think you need a top back to do that but conceptually it makes sense to have those play types paired.

I stand by my commentary and word choice. when you’ll be expecting a 10 sack guy at the pro level 0 sacks in a college season is a concern. Pressures are valuable but on some level sack production matters. 9 sacks vs 11 sacks is no big deal. Zero is a worry. https://youtu.be/8rDQ_8jv3qw

Is there some reason doing it sooner is better? if they pick it up they can tear up the whole thing the next day and sign a new deal spread however they please though. there’s no benefit to not picking it up.

they will obviously pick up the 5th no matter what (short of signing him this week)

trading a 2 and getting a 3 back as a comp pick as a worst case feels more like not wasting a year with an obvious hole than it does going all in

plus getting up field off the line vs underneath routes is a different beast. As is tracking the ball. High pointing a home run over a defender is different than body shielding a slant. The speed helps but there’s a lot going into the skill set variance. I don’t know the player well enough to critique him though.

I’m not one to hang up on minor statical variances- an 8 sack guy can be more disruptive than a 12 sack no doubt.... but zero is hard to stomach. especially at the college level where some weeks he’s out matching the guy across from him so substantially... and I also hate to say but at some point you’d think his coaches would make it a priority to get him something on the stat sheet (as silly as it sounds, if you have a guy like this that you love you are going to scheme a few soft balls up for him to get over the hump) either you are completely snake bitten, or consistently lost to have a gap as wide as his production vs his physical talent.

meh, I think he probably saw more than one play. that said, I agree that zero is a big concern. Especially at the college level. He should have had plenty of “man amongst boys” days ala a guy like maybin at the very least.

I’d be most worried that I’m dreaming about it

why?

sure? Whaley was too. on your list nix was only in buffalo for acquiring Hughes though.