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One of the guys that was with us showed up in jeans, sneakers and a wind breaker. About midway thru the 3rd quarter he became unresponsive despite seeming to be alert and still watching the action. At the end he got up and silently walked to the car and sat in the back seat just staring forward into space and not answering anyone. We later found out that this is something that happens to a lot of people before they freeze to death. So keep an eye out for that folks. The same thing happened to one of the players on the Raiders sideline.........they just piled coats on him and left him there not knowing why he wasn't answering them. Since that time there have been a lot of advancements..........the clothing tech is MUCH better, the hand and foot warmers that you put in your shoes and gloves work a lot better and are still cheap and automobiles operate a lot better in the cold.................shouldn't be nearly as dangerous but still there will be some who suffer and hopefully nothing tragic happens.

Exactly. It's the right move for the Texans. Culley wasn't the future and the next HC now has a chance to actually come in and not have HIS process undermined by a dreadful first year. I said it at the time...........Dick Jauron did a great job changing the culture in Buffalo in his first year...........they went from a sloppy, rudderless, penalty-prone mess under Mularkey to a keep-it-simple and execute team under Jauron.........which was THE PERFECT TIME to make a change.

Crazy circumstances too........the Bills were in line to be the #1 seed with a bye, they just needed to beat Houston in the finale..........but were blown out 27-3 Sunday December 27th by that Oilers team that knocked the Bills into an unexpected January 3rd WC game.........add in that Jim Kelly and Thurman Thomas were both injured in that game and knocked out of the WC round and Cornelius Bennett was also sidelined. So a crazy let down and turn of events and they had just 4 days to manually sell about 40K tickets for an unexpected game for a seemingly terrible matchup.........which meant people getting in crazy lines around the stadium in the cold. Only a cluster of epic proportions like that lead to that not being sold out in time to not be blacked out. Bills gave up 62 points to the Oilers without scoring a TD over those 6 quarters of football.

Not sure about giving long term deals to guys like Gallup and Godwin who both tore ACL's in the last month or so............and I don't think either is taking a one year deal to come to Buffalo to be the second or third WR option while playing 8 games in the wind tunnel at Orchard Park.

I've quoted the ESPN article the other day in other threads about the best players of the year at any position where they gave Rousseau the nod as the best rookie edge/DE..........but they also noted that Basham finished second in pressure rate per snap among rookies(Rousseau ranked third). PFF data of course so some will highly discount it.......but it's interesting at least and reflects that while Rousseau and Basham weren't overwhelming hits as rookies.........they seem to have scored extremely highly versus their peers, including many players picked ahead of both of them.

You should be good with the battery powered socks..........they will run the metal wand over your shoes/boots and assume it's the grommets on the shoes/boots tripping the alarm. @Captain Caveman I'd suggest loosening your boots and sliding them in there. If they find metal on you above the shoes they are likely to get pinched.

We will have to agree to disagree.........they had the 22nd pick in their pocket..........the 21, 22 and the picks dealt to Tampa gets them to #7 overall most years and they still had more value to deal from. My point about the rest of the draft has as much or more validity as the concept that they didn't have enough ammo to move up......even if just in the context of using 2018 picks only. They used their savings on a lesser MLB(so far) than Darius Leonard or Fred Warner.......what are the odds of 2 All Pro MLB's being picked after the second one came off the board in a draft(it's likely never happened before and Roquan Smith is better than Edmunds too)..........and the chaos caused by the atrocious state of the Glenn-less 2018 OL likely impacted the evaluation of Teller........their 5th round pick in that 2018 draft. So while the Allen pick was a HR or HR's.......aided by several extremely dumb, shortsighted decisions in the 6 picks in front of them.........how they utilized the savings and the subsequent OL performance in 2018 were factors in lowering the potential value of that draft. Imagine netting an MVP candidate and 2 other All Pro players(say, Warner, who the Bills were high on, and Teller) out of one draft..........they were thisclose to that. I am a big fan of Beane's 1st round work in general...........since 1990 there has never been a situation where I was pleased with any 2 consecutive 1st round picks by any Bills GM at the time...........and I've really liked all of his........excellent work, IMO. His second round work has been consistent with every other Bills GM..........the only time they seem to nail round 2 is when they don't have a pick in round 1.........which I think is because they get carried away drafting for need when it's much too early to start doing that.

This feels like deja vu.............didn't he get robbed of his gear before in recent years and somehow they got it back?

As the slot receiver he's always been "the quick outlet under pressure" in Buffalo. That's what he's been basically his entire career, in fact.........and he's almost always been MUCH more productive than this year in ypc. One of his gripes he had about being in Dallas was that they "only threw to me on 3rd down"..........implying that they only gave him the chance to make small plays but with all of the pressure on him. Talk about just arguing for the sake of arguing.

No doubt it was a good deal. It was being oversold as the only way to skin that cat though............and neglecting that a lot of luck was involved in Allen slipping to #7. To me...........I just appreciate a Bills GM/HC/Ownership combo actually agreeing that they should trade-up-from or use that original first round pick to take the QB they deemed the best for the first time in 58 years. Adding hyperbole to the origin story is unnecessary.

He only played 2 full games in 2019.........he was really showing out though. Yeah they weren't the same front afterward.

He didn't cash in on the pass rush party. It's my opinion that he has been dealing with turf-toe or something that's hindering his power.........he hasn't been the same since that KC game......I suppose it could also be a rookie wall.......he only played one season in college and if the Bills advance deep in the playoffs he will have played basically twice as many games as he did in that one season at Miami when you factor in all the preseason/regular/postseason games. He hasn't been nearly as impactful rushing the passer since that KC/Tenn period............but by the same token Groot tied for the NFL lead with 32 run stops on the year so he's been very productive.

He really was trending this way before he hurt his knee though..........he was A LOT better than Star Lotulelei already at that moment in 2019. Took a lot longer to get back there than expected...........but he was a tackling machine at Stanford even though he was a 0 tech nose tackle............his senior year at Stanford he had 98 tackles 17 TFL and 7.5 sacks.........which were basically Star's stats for his entire career at Utah.

Edelman = Lenny Dykstra 2.0

We will be there with bells on So excited for the first game of the year without rain!

Modell was a people pleaser..........Ralph was selfish. Modell couldn't say no to anyone..........he wouldn't play hardball with Cleveland and the city knew it so they kept putting the Browns stadium on the back burner.......... then the city literally built a "hardball" stadium for the tradition-poor(but trending upward) Indians when the Browns were playing in a total dump..........Modell was in debt up to his ears from bad business deals, loans he gave out to deadbeats and grossly overpaying players and staff to make everyone like him.........and finally he had to slip out of town in shame. It was probably Modell's worst nightmare. People think Ralph just objected to the Browns moving..........I think he was mostly just disgusted by Modell's very different business acumen and resented the fact that the Baltimore deal bailed his sorry ass out. Ralph had his flaws but he wasn't going to ruin his franchise just to make people like him........he looked out for #1 and that did serve to keep the franchise profitable. And keeping the team in town and his Ralph C Wilson charitable foundation will ensure that his legacy endures LONG after those of us who know what he was actually like as an owner and endured his mercurial stewardship will be alive to tell about it.

There was no "original trade"..........they traded with Cinci to move up weeks before the draft..........nothing was close to set in stone that early. What part of "their was plenty of draft capital to move up to #7 overall without the Cordy Glenn trade" do you NOT get? Like I said..........they accumulated all of the 2018 picks in 2017 thinking that they might need all that capital to move up for their QB of choice.........and it would have cost ALL of that and perhaps multiple early picks in subsequent years......and been worth it..........had Allen not fallen out of the top 3.

I'm not counting out a potentially strong passing game. If it's not windy they might be able to throw it around well.

In all seriousness........this is a hot coffee tailgate game if there ever was one:

I know the BBFS is strong in a lot of you but best case scenario for me is: Beat NE at home (go 1-0 in playoffs versus NE) Beat KC on road (avenge AFCCG loss) Beat Cinci at home (other team to beat the Bills in an AFCCG) or TN on road (MCM revenge) Beat Tampa in SB (obvious) I don't want any part of the Raiders or Steelers.......or Cinci before the AFCCG......those are games the team might not get up for and won't be as fun to beat.

I wouldn't be surprised to see Shaq or Jordan Phillips back on a cheap deal next year. They really don't need an edge setter at LDE anymore though.........Groot had a dominant season against the run. "Rousseau made his mark against the run, tallying an incredible 32 defensive run stops, which was tied for the most in the league and far more than any other rookie." -ESPN "best players of the year" feature

Ralph may have had a "soft spot" for Buffalo..........but it was actually the perfect fit for him as well........people who act like he did the area a favor keeping the team here take for granted how important his legacy was to him. The Bills never moved because of his ego. He not only made himself synonymous with a town and a team........but he lliterally unnecessarily pocketed tens of millions for years, at the expense of the on field product and the fans, ultimately just to fund a charity in his name alone........so he would never be forgotten. He wasn't a good enough owner to consistently field good teams either way so if he'd have gone thru the turmoil of moving elsewhere, he'd have surely disappointed the locals who had no connection to him and just been "that guy" who owned the team before the smart, young owner that bought it after him. Basically like Art Modell.

Give it 50 more years, like with Ralph..........the Pegula kids might have an asset worth a trillion+ (or the equivalent in whatever currency is then).

I never said they were going to try to trade directly up to #7. At this point it was already commonplace for teams to trade up in steps. Trading #21 and #22 would have been a whole lot more value than the Bills got trading down with KC the year prior so they were going to be able to get wherever they needed to reach #7 and do it with relative ease. The problem would have been getting all the way to #2 or #3 overall.........which they were fortunate not to have to because some teams really drafted very shortsightedly in the top 6. Here's an interesting twist to this...............because Eric Wood had to retire, Incognito quit, and Glenn was traded.........the Bills had an absolute train wreck on the offensive line in 2018. Allen took a beating and since that OL was such a cluster*ck it really made it difficult for them to get a good read on the career outlook of a talented young guard who they stole in round 5 that year named Wyatt Teller. Beane subsequently traded the future All Pro guard for a late round pick the next summer. Probably his worst individual move. If the OL consists of Glenn as well Dawkins then perhaps they never deal Teller.