BADOLBILZ

Yeah I think the vehement defenders of Star's decision making over the past couple seasons have gotten a high decibel wake-up call this past month.

Coming into this game there is a lot of hyperbole in the media about how bad the Bills run the football and defend against the run........and how great the Pats run it and play defense. The numbers don't really support these positions.

It's not "we". It's you and some others who clearly didn't understand the value of having a winning culture and excellent coaching. Which made no sense to me because the same people who thought Belichick was done fielding competitive teams were the same people who "trusted the process" in Buffalo. You may be too young to remember the 1990's Bills teams but as talented as they often were.........many of their wins......especially after the first couple of SB seasons.........were in great part just due to supreme confidence in their organization + opponents lack of confidence that they could beat the winning-culture Bills. That's how you go to the playoffs 10 times in 12 years. The Patriots have just taken it to a greater level.

My family in Mass and RI would very much disagree with this statement. But in fairness........Boston has only been a baseball town since the mid-1960's. Now that they've won some WS titles maybe that scratched an itch they had but as a Yankees fan there is nothing more satisfying than hearing "Yankees suck" chanted at EVERY Red Sox gathering. Nobody is in the head of a fanbase like that.......even when they've gotten the better of the Yanks for past 20 years. And as a Bills fan it really tells me that the Pats are still A LONG way from causing that much anxiety to the fan base. As for the younger crowds just playing "other sports".........I think that is a mis-perception. Prior to the pandemic, enrollment in organized youth baseball was exploding nationally for the prior 5 years. And the programs in New England in particular have become huge. Right now, kids just aren't playing sports at all. HS sports programs are having a hard time competing with high paying part time jobs because so many adults have refused to return to work. Football is being hit the hardest. Rival schools are having to merge football programs just to field teams. So football is definitely not one of the "other sports".

It's gonna be nice out........just put on your big boy knee pads and walk.

61 mph? Pfft......that's not even hurricane force (74 mph or higher). But everyone loves watching a "wind" game!

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People love to watch football games. The rest of your post is irrelevant to football's popularity. Put a dome on it and then instead of looking back fondly on an occasional fun/bad football game played in weather conditions that altered the outcome............maybe you can look back on many more games where your elite QB carved up opposing defenses in a climate controlled conditions in front of his home crowd............while at the same time allowing the team to compete on a more level playing field financially and for player acquisition and retention. You need to watch pro football in the snow? Watch the CFL playoffs. Hamilton is one win away from reaching the Grey Cup and the game is being hosted in Hamilton this year. Never gonna' be a dome over Tim Horton's Field.

Here's a helpful message board hint......read the posts prior to the one's you respond to.......you'll have context that way. The argument that was made was that the stadium was just a big TV set because TV money is all that matters..........and tv viewers want to watch teams play outdoors. That's not the case.........people don't watch football on tv to see what the outdoors looks like from the comfort of their couch. A window will suffice for that. The SEC is popular because it's good football. Obviously.

Same as a GoFundMe for the entire stadium. Zero. We already assume we will be paying for PSL's etc.. I know the age demographic of this site really thinks that everything 5-10 years from now will look like it does right here and now..........but the way sports entertainment and gambling are going there will likely be a significant financial advantage to getting fans into the game early or getting them to stay later afterward. I can easily see a future where the tickets themselves are only half of the revenue(or less) that a team earns inside the stadium on a game day. Beyond competitive advantages like noise and being able to recruit or retain talent easier........putting a roof on it would just show some actual foresight.

Yeah it ain't cheap at all if you gotta' take 2 days off of work or use vacation time. Better off paying the going rate for a Sunday game in Foxboro. I don't expect many Pats fans. A Sunday would be a lot easier.........but by the same token there wouldn't be quite as many cheap tickets available. Wasn't a big contingent of Pats fans at the 2019 game either.

You'd be very wrong. College and pro football dominate tv ratings like nothing else. None of those ratings are predicated on playing "outdoors" LOFL.

I don't think there will be many Pats fans. I don't see people driving to Buffalo from Mass area with the impending stormy weather. Gillette tickets might be expensive but so is driving 600 miles round trip, getting a room for a night or two etc.. Might be different with a 1pm game.

Well the stadium audience isn't 65,000 who "went to a game once". Season ticket holders often end up attending hundreds of games in OP. Stifling hot September games........then pouring rain and high wind games in fall.........then windy and bitter cold meaningless late season games are fine when they are all a novelty...........not so much when you've sat thru a few dozen of them. It's cute that there are still people who think that the NFL draws tv ratings because of snow games though. That must be why SEC football is so popular. People watch the games to see football. Bad weather games are only interesting as an occasional substitute for well played football.

Taylor Heinicke was one of those backups and he's won 3 straight games right now and looks like an NFL starter. And Trevor Lawrence was a starter but managed only 9 points. Roethlisberger is starter quality in name only. And yes, they would have still beaten Houston with their starter Tyrod and the Jets with Zach Wilson. You make it sound like the quality of the QB has been a significant issue. One of the starting QB's they beat is the most valuable asset in the entire NFL.....Patrick Mahomes. The Bills have simply been as inconsistent as they possibly could be. It's not been about the QB's.

reminds me of CP10

The Bills were clearly not actually expecting to play with a target on their back like they have. Their schedule looked like a lot of teams that might just roll over.......like some did late in 2020. But when you are a SB favorite every team looks at beating you like a chance to garner attention, if nothing else. And with 14 playoff teams and 17 games.......more teams feel like they are in it. Look at Miami......that extra game on the schedule gives them added optimism that they can get out of the hole they dug.

I have no problem with fans being critical of the team's play in-game or post victory. But trying to judge every game based on whether the team played well enough to win a SB that day is not realistic. Look at the two teams that reached the SB last year...........Tampa was 7-5 at one time.......lost their division to the Saints who blew them out twice..........and the Chiefs slept walked thru the season playing down to their opponents for most of the last two months of the season. I'm not making excuses for the team.......the bad losses might come back to haunt them........but that's also not a given.

That's all kind of "on paper" talk, IMO. Comparing the effort or personnel that it took to sweep them last year versus what it would take this year doesn't hold a lot of relevance to me at this point of the season.

It's worrying more about what you have to lose than what you have to gain. Perhaps some haven't thought about it this way.........but believe it or not I once had to explain what coaching "not to lose" was on TSW when the Bills first hired Dick Jauron. We should be excited about what a win Monday night means.........another win closer to a divisional title and still quite possibly the #1 seed and a kick in the nuts to a hated division rival. Hasn't helped that the national media has created this idea that the Bills are now "behind" New England in the division. The reality is that the Bills control their own destiny in the AFC East..........the Patriots do not........they need to sweep the Bills OR get help.

Jones has had a tremendous rookie year..........but he is maybe the most immobile QB in the NFL right now...........and his arm isn't impressive. There is a lot of Chad Pennington to his game but he has maybe the best OL in the league, an effective running game and a combination of good inside receiving targets and excellent coaching that is getting receivers open quickly for the throws he can make. It's up to teams to find a way to take away the throws he excels at.......force him to make the tougher ones to move the football...........and get more pressure on him. Fortunately taking away short and intermediate throws and then getting more pressure with that extra bit of time are things that can go hand-in-hand. They just run contrary to what most of the league is doing on defense.

I don't have a margin of victory in mind. That's irrelevant. I don't care if the Bills win by just 1 point after a phantom roughing the passer call that the whole country is crying about on Tuesday. In fact, it might be better for the re-match if the Pats lost and everyone felt they got jobbed. I'm just thinking about how satisfying it would be with the Bills alone in first place and with the second place team then needing outside help to win the division. They'd also be very much in the mix for the #1 seed as well. Oh and that 3rd straight W over Belichick. That would be sweet driving home from the game early Tuesday am with that being the case. Then it's on to Tampa.

Yeah regress is the wrong choice of words. Davis is still the same caliber of receiver but has been less productive and impactful on a game to game basis. Which I think is as attributable to him suffering another ankle injury early in the year as it is Sanders being active every week or even Knox emergence. If he were healthy earlier I suspect he'd have gotten a lot more snaps. Beasley on the other hand.........he's clearly been a lesser player than last season. Hopefully he can finish strong but his ypr is just pathetic this season.

Yeah the sleet was brutal in the upper deck that day. Blinding. So we went downstairs and the place was so empty late in the game that we actually walked across the stands with the teams as they moved up and down the field. Really started snowing very hard late in the game. Got out to the parking lot and there was like 10" of snow on the cars. We had a two wheel drive 12 passenger Ram van and got on 20A to go home and the roads were terrible. Some volunteer fire department had a detour set up about 10 miles outside of OP and idiotically sent us all down a road that had a deep ravine in it. We were just over the crest of a hill with a line of cars right behind us when I could see cars piled up at the bottom of the ravine. They couldn't get up the hill and had rolled back. Only way thru was to ride the ditch around them like a rail. I flew down no brakes and the piled up snow kept us upright and somehow we got lucky and popped out of the ditch at full speed after the pile-up and made it up the steep hill. What a cluster. When we reached Warsaw it hadn't snowed one bit all day and it was like an October ride home from there. It was surreal but that's lake effect.....and that's why we need a gotdamn dome!

It's about a lot more than just the Pats game...........for many on here this whole season has been a joyless Jauronian act of rooting not to lose as they try to fast forward back to the AFCCG or Super Bowl. I'm looking forward to winning the games, not worrying about losing them. You are thousands of miles from WNY and probably have to drive to a Bills bar to find other fans but I can tell you from being in the stadium that there is a palpable "what the hell is this.....we were promised wins" attitude with the fan base at games. Not that we don't DESERVE it after the drought........but it just doesn't work that way and a lot of fans don't seem to know that........maybe because prior to last season the team hadn't actually been a SB contender since the days when repeat SB champions were still a thing.