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Summary....."We'll keep putting lipstick on this pig". I actually feel a bit sorry for this guy. All the money in the world couldn't make me enjoy that job.

Remember when we won it all becasue we had an owner who lived in our community and had some pride?

I already have become so numb that the season opener against the Jets I DVR'd the game and enjoyed a great day out with my kids. I accidently saw the score and never watched the game, only the highlights. Since then I've DVR'd the games and sped through all the commercials and wasted as littel time on them as possible. It's refreshing and my mood is definately better. I'll tell you all what I've learned watching this franchise since my dad took me to a game in 1970 a the rockpile. RW is like PT Barnum. He can sell us a retread and give us hope and when it fails, we line up like suckers to do it again. My mind is numb from all the times he gave us Chuck Knox, Drew Bledsoe, Marv Levy, Lawyer Milloy........the list is just getting going. I used to have my car covered in Bills stuff, go to two or thtree games a year, but no more. I'm done doing that. Call me a band wagon fan, and I'll call you a special edition, PT Barnum Bills sucker. My kids summed it up once recently when they were talking about the Giants.....I said aren't you a Bills fan? My son looked at me and said "Only losers root for the Bills". I honestly couldn't argue. Sadly, I come to two bills drive anyway, so I'm like a three pack a day smoker who quits but still sneaks one when he thinks no one is looking.

"Anyone who feels robbed by Ralph Wilson or the Bills should look in the mirror and realize that they have nobody to blame but themselves for feeling that way. You can walk away any time you like, and it doesn't make you less of a person. If you choose to stick around, and then feel robbed by the product that gets put out, then it was YOUR mistake to support the team in the first place. Move on if that's how you feel." I think the diaper thing was low and childish, but you might be missing something. It's called civic pride. I love Buffalo. I live near Rochester now, because of work, but I head to Erie county often. I have three kids and coach a couple of different sports. I see kids wearing pats and steelers gear all the time. They all think of Buffalo fans as a bunch of losers. I wear my gear, and at least the Sabres compete, and the owner and past owners lived in WNY. But here it is......I can't get my kids to watch a Bills game. They have walked away. "Your opinion at least makes sense to me...some of this other stuff is complete and utter nonsense." I agree with you about this.

"You don't have to like him, but he's not some clueless old codger like many here pretend." He's clearly not clueless. He's like a carnival owner that hires a different barker every year that gets repeat customers to the same old bearded lady. Or as the song goes "meet the new boss, same as the old boss." You can't be clueless to do that. Spending the cash to get Mario is just a perfect example of a band-aid fix getting crazy season ticket sales. And you all fell for it. Me too. I've never met him, but I really don't like him as an owner. That's most of our relationship with him, and anyone that defends his record as that, I just can't relate to. I'm old enough to have seen his ineptitude in the 70's and 80's. He did just enough to get us hope, but never made a real commitment. The early 90's was just the perfect storm. Just how that old dude got in the HOF is just nutty to me.

I just laughed out loud at work. Great thread. Thanks!

I need to get in on this thread, seeing as I haven't got anything done the last two days of work. Thanks all for making me laugh. The Bills family puts the fun in disFUNctional. :P

Let's not lose perspective. this kid is a grown man today.

Amen to that. I don't wish him dead, just dead to me. The guy is a con man. My kids won't even watch football with their Dad. they think I'm stupid to watch the bills. They are slowly becoming Steeler fans, and I can't really defend myself or the product.

My mom, who passed away last year, always would remind me which athletes she thougth had the most charactor. She could look past the money, and the wins and losses and she just said it like it was. She absolutely loved Kent. A sad day indeed.

Tough to see the news. When johnny Carson died years ago, I remember feeling like a constant in my life was gone. Same with Joe Strummer, Joey Ramone, George Harrison, and many others. Al was the type of charactor that makes this world great. In life he did "Just win baby!".

Well.....were you "That guy?"

If a football game is more important than your friends wedding, then he isn't really your friend. Skip the wedding, or DVR it. If someone disrespected me and my wifes day watching a football game, real friends of mine would have you removed, or at least your phone would be in little pieces. Luckily that wasn't a possiblity 17 years ago. Don't be known as "that guy". finally, and most important, you aren't getting any wedding side action watching football. Just Saying.

It's hard to enjoy a win in the NFL. > Still laughing.

<He has been a VERY loyal owner....but not a very good one the last ten years.> There's that toronto thing.....

That old geezer tells us how we can't support a team and has to move games to Toronto, and abused fans pile on and say what a great guy he is to keep the bills in your city. Unbillievable. He's a bad owner, who doesn't even have the decency to read the facts and eject himself from the mess it took him 50 years to make. I will dance whenever he is unaffiliated with the Bills. Even at the risk of them moving, which I used to think was zero, but now has a chance thanks to ralph of going to Toronto.

I'm the guy on page 1 who vented frustration at losing my Mom (huge fan of the Bills). I appreciate those who felt my pain. All those who were talking of Ralph keeping the Bills in Buffalo and what a great guy he is, answer this. Couldn't the Steelers (a similar sized market team) be in LA, Arizona, etc.? Why doe that never come up? It's because they are competent owners. We have Ralph. Arrrgghh!

I'll never forgive him for the angst he caused my mom, who passed away the day after that awful loss to miami september 12th. She loved her Bills, and I took her to a game as my mothers day present every year. She was so loyal. She's up in heaven now, and I miss her so. That Ralph made it to the HOF makes me sick. I'll say it again. I don't wish him dead, just dead to me. My Mom and Buffalo deserved better. Too further this rant, I'll continue by saying he reminds me of a wife abuser who just buys flowers to make amends for his sick behavior. Ralphie makes excuses because we are a small market team (like Pittsburgh and Green bay are small market teams) and all his supporters are just abused wives coming back for more. Raise ticket prices and put a competitive team on the field and people will pay and the ralph will be sold out. Or just sell the team. Go Bills. I need help.

that video was depressing. I only believe because I live in WNY. If the steelers played at the ralph, I'd be a lot happier. God....why did you do me this way.

Apparently you have never heard him with Bob Mathews on WHAM in Rochester. Unlisteneable. Angry Fred makes Ted Nugent sound liberal.

Thank you. That was funny. It's good to see all the optimism here. The bills have made me grumpy and old. I hope it doesn't happen to all of you. I'll go back to lurking again.

good points, but didn't we just use a #1 draft pick on CJ Spiller? I'm fired up about Chan, and Buddy entertains me when he speaks, and I want to believe that we are headed in the right direction, but I've seen Ralphs sit on his hands when he knows a few late seaon wins will lead to season ticket sales. I could hear it in his voice yesterday.

Maybe my dislike of the man has clouded my judgement, but I read it as "look at these underachievers getting better, I guess its not that important that I fire Modrak" I love how hard this team is playing, I really like Fitzpatricks gunslinger mentallity, etc. But show me wins, and playoffs. My mom recently passed after being a lifelong fan of futility and bad judgement by ralph. I'm just frustrated, thinking we're all headed for the same fate. I want to be excited by this rag tag bunch, but I see a lot of 5 win seasons wthout better players.

I don't post here much, but I'm always entertained. So thank you. But I'm compelled to write after hearing Ralphs comments...and my interpretation of what he said. "Our drafts in the last 10 years have been terrible." (But we'll keep the same draft mastermind anyway) "This team amazes me. I guess it's because they play hard. A lot of them were overlooked in the draft. A lot of them were cut by other teams that didn't have enough patience with them. All of those things play into it. So we should be much, much better next year." (So I guess this is working out for me again....these peaople from Buffalo...for lands sake, what a bunch of sheep) Ralph...channeling the late great Don Meredith, thanks for telling us we're number one with your middle finger.

Noit trying to get hostile, and I respect your position, but read this post: Memorial Link and then just try to get me to drink this brand of coolaid. I'll start drinking when they add some sugar. In the meantime, I'm smart enough to spit it out and warn my friends not to drink this crap. Steve