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That pick off by Watt was despicable, not for EJ, but for the play call. We get a shiny new receiver and we can't throw to the corner of the end zone like every other pro team? We make it its 7. We miss and its 3. Instead its a ten point swing. I's not like Watt hadn't been in on play yet. That play was the whole regime in a nutshell.

It's hard to win in the NFL.

I didn't see much heckling of Miami fans around me. They looked so sad. With about 6 or 7 minutes before the game was over, they did the walk of shame out of the stadium. Why did I enjoy that so?

Lost in the excitement of yesterday is any talk of the new improvements. I didn't get to a preseason game, so it was my first experience. Cal me wondering where 130 million went. That is a lot of money. I sat in section 333 for reference. 1. I noticed the Ralph was seriously missing a lot of fans a kick-off. I had gone in at 11:45 and experienced no real wait, but a guy who sat next to me showed up at 1:20 and said he waited over an hour, as did a few others who straggled in. I believe one of the goals was to reduce fan's wait. They kept saying n the radio to get in early. WTH! 2.The wait was less for concessions. (but 9 bucks for a bud out of a can that took way to long to pour? Doesn't Bud make something better tasting?) 3. I had to use the bathroom twice. Both times the line for the men' room was out the door. (No I didn't P in the sink). 4. The Audio was very improved, but do we need noise every minute? 5. Another improvement was supposed to allow me better phone reception. I could text with a delay, but getting to NFL.com was like logging in to dial up. Is there something I was doing wrong? (Verizon) 6. The new paint looks cool, but again, you would think that for that kind of money, the broken concrete on the ramps walking up and the general look would be better. 7. The scoreboards were good, but the only place to reliably see the down and distance and other stats was at the end of the ribbons. Very small.

Last Miami game I went to was this.....a couple of cool Dolphans behind me talking crap, then Jimbo walked out in his fur coat and things got really ugly fast. I took my Mom, who is watching from the great skybox now, and I sure miss her. It's gonna be awesome!

We can win just enough to miss the playoffs and get lousy draft picks. 7-9 I say!

I feel sorry for him and all the other guys that cover this team on WGR. They are the Bills station, so I am sure they have to wrap this turd up in at least some kind of wrapping paper. But doing that week after week and year after year has made them and us pretty testy. Wouldn't you all love a competitive team, with a shot at the playoffs to talk about? Them too. And for those who argue that they get paid, never had a crappy job they hated. Money isn't everything. Paul sounds down right despondant.

I always hope Ralph reads Jerry. I used to be pretty positive about the Bills, but like Jerry, time has infuriated me with most things Bills. He's probably the only conduit to Ralph other than the smoke that his employes blow. Keep stating the truth Jerry.

Bandit, image is reality. I'm guessing from your past posts you have some kind of personal connection and I'm sure if you do, it's not easy to read this stuff. But good man or not, Ralph is a bad owner. And futility reigns until he's not the owner. That reality frustrates. I laughed when I read that the eagles were considered the current laughing stock of the NFL. OBD can't even get irrelevant right.

This. Again, why do I care?

Is it wrong to get satisfaction realizing this bad owner won't ever see a championship? I'm ashamed of myself for thinking this, but days like yesterday its all I got.

Syracuse Basketball. When they won the NCAA title, it was not the magical victory I thought it was going to be. I think it was because in college ball, the turnover of players is 2-3 years, unless you get a phenom freshmen. And there is less access to the players throug interviews, etc. But it was cool to finally be on the winning side. Being a Bills and sabres fan, the pride comes from sticking with your (sad) franchise, not the actual organization's success.

So please for the last time spear me the crap, you & Promo & whoever else that says they had trouble filling up the place even in their super bowl years. Most other owners would of killed to have attendance like the bills had back in the late eighties & early nineties. I've always thought of the attendance some of you kids form those days was bs. many of those games I was at, back when I would have paid anything. I f they rised the ticket prices 20 bucks each and put a contender out there, the stadium would still be filled. It hurts me to say that my trust in one bills drive is so shaken, I watch the games in tape delay, because they just aren't worth my time. My two boys would probably get on board if they were competitive, but they took these last two games as a "that's why we follow the Steelers" punctuation to me. I laughed when I heard all the talk about MAtt Cassell being cheered when he got hurt. Nobody wishes him bad personally, the just want him out of their lives. I feel that way about Mr. Wilson. Not dead, just dead to me and my fellow suffering Bills fans. Whatever happens has to be better than this.

Summary....."We'll keep putting lipstick on this pig". I actually feel a bit sorry for this guy. All the money in the world couldn't make me enjoy that job.

Remember when we won it all becasue we had an owner who lived in our community and had some pride?

I already have become so numb that the season opener against the Jets I DVR'd the game and enjoyed a great day out with my kids. I accidently saw the score and never watched the game, only the highlights. Since then I've DVR'd the games and sped through all the commercials and wasted as littel time on them as possible. It's refreshing and my mood is definately better. I'll tell you all what I've learned watching this franchise since my dad took me to a game in 1970 a the rockpile. RW is like PT Barnum. He can sell us a retread and give us hope and when it fails, we line up like suckers to do it again. My mind is numb from all the times he gave us Chuck Knox, Drew Bledsoe, Marv Levy, Lawyer Milloy........the list is just getting going. I used to have my car covered in Bills stuff, go to two or thtree games a year, but no more. I'm done doing that. Call me a band wagon fan, and I'll call you a special edition, PT Barnum Bills sucker. My kids summed it up once recently when they were talking about the Giants.....I said aren't you a Bills fan? My son looked at me and said "Only losers root for the Bills". I honestly couldn't argue. Sadly, I come to two bills drive anyway, so I'm like a three pack a day smoker who quits but still sneaks one when he thinks no one is looking.

"Anyone who feels robbed by Ralph Wilson or the Bills should look in the mirror and realize that they have nobody to blame but themselves for feeling that way. You can walk away any time you like, and it doesn't make you less of a person. If you choose to stick around, and then feel robbed by the product that gets put out, then it was YOUR mistake to support the team in the first place. Move on if that's how you feel." I think the diaper thing was low and childish, but you might be missing something. It's called civic pride. I love Buffalo. I live near Rochester now, because of work, but I head to Erie county often. I have three kids and coach a couple of different sports. I see kids wearing pats and steelers gear all the time. They all think of Buffalo fans as a bunch of losers. I wear my gear, and at least the Sabres compete, and the owner and past owners lived in WNY. But here it is......I can't get my kids to watch a Bills game. They have walked away. "Your opinion at least makes sense to me...some of this other stuff is complete and utter nonsense." I agree with you about this.

"You don't have to like him, but he's not some clueless old codger like many here pretend." He's clearly not clueless. He's like a carnival owner that hires a different barker every year that gets repeat customers to the same old bearded lady. Or as the song goes "meet the new boss, same as the old boss." You can't be clueless to do that. Spending the cash to get Mario is just a perfect example of a band-aid fix getting crazy season ticket sales. And you all fell for it. Me too. I've never met him, but I really don't like him as an owner. That's most of our relationship with him, and anyone that defends his record as that, I just can't relate to. I'm old enough to have seen his ineptitude in the 70's and 80's. He did just enough to get us hope, but never made a real commitment. The early 90's was just the perfect storm. Just how that old dude got in the HOF is just nutty to me.

I just laughed out loud at work. Great thread. Thanks!

I need to get in on this thread, seeing as I haven't got anything done the last two days of work. Thanks all for making me laugh. The Bills family puts the fun in disFUNctional. :P

Let's not lose perspective. this kid is a grown man today.

Amen to that. I don't wish him dead, just dead to me. The guy is a con man. My kids won't even watch football with their Dad. they think I'm stupid to watch the bills. They are slowly becoming Steeler fans, and I can't really defend myself or the product.

My mom, who passed away last year, always would remind me which athletes she thougth had the most charactor. She could look past the money, and the wins and losses and she just said it like it was. She absolutely loved Kent. A sad day indeed.

Tough to see the news. When johnny Carson died years ago, I remember feeling like a constant in my life was gone. Same with Joe Strummer, Joey Ramone, George Harrison, and many others. Al was the type of charactor that makes this world great. In life he did "Just win baby!".