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Yes, I do - I've seen it with my own eyes, and several times over the life of the team....late 60's, mid to late 70's, mid 80's......but we all get the picture. If you're a native of WNY you get ingrained with it. Win or lose, its fun to tailgate and go to the games I think (I only get to do it every few years now since I don't live in the area). And its equally as frustrating as hell to not see progress. We're now approaching nearly 25 years since the Bills last SB appearance and for anyone who was old enough to remember 1988 to 1993 it was what Patriots fans have experienced the last umpteen years minus the actual win of the SB. I never felt the Bills would lose any games during that time. I was genuinely shocked when they lost. That feeling is long gone.

Really, the teams record hasn't really changed much since the Music City Miracle loss. They've averaged slightly over six wins and slightly more than 9 losses every since since. They're 127-177 over that time period and made the playoffs once due to what can only be described as a miracle. They've had 9 HC's, with Dick Jauron lasting the longest at slightly more than 3.5 seasons. Basically they've been in a rebuilding cycle for the last 19 years. My point here is what's really changed? The names and faces, but that's about it. So, no I don't have reason to think the current group is any better. Sheer odds say that there has to be something like a 20% chance they get things turned around.

As the former Gov. of CA would say " Das a gud one..."

I believe the run game was on the Cleveland side of the ball....seems like teams are able to run pretty much all they want. I will say however that the defense holding Cleveland to no TD from inside the 10 on eight consecutive plays it pretty amazing.

The record is not indicative of how little the team has progressed from last year. Not that difficult to figure out.

yeah, don't stop now.....oh yeah, hope the Bills win too.

Yes a very minor and slight detail...

Ha, that's pretty good.... Technically they'd tie the record, right - going to 4 straight?

It would be just like Brady to screw the Bills out of a record that we all assumed would never be broken.

I did for 7 years and attended a few Bills-Iggles games at the Vet. Absolutely brutal people. I learned after the first visit not to wear Bills stuff. I mean, they used to have a jail in the Vet - that should tell you all you need to know.

if the team plays like they did the last two games I'm certain that the Cleveland game is a win and the Pittsburgh game would be a definite L. The rest of your observations make sense.

yeah, I though I heard on the game last night that Collingsworth said PI challenges are 0-26 so far this season....I admittedly was half listening.

Lets see, take one part alcohol + one part hatchets + one part throwing said hatchet, mix until vomiting = Trip to hospital (or morgue)....but can't wait to see the video. Reminds me of my dad and uncles playing jarts in the front yard after a couple gallons of home made red wine - whoops, didn't mean to put that through your car door, Lefty....

I thought the game was in Orchard Park? No? Wha'd I miss?

You're right, but not by much. Look, if you've been a fan for any length of time you have to get a little jittery with a familiar and fast start like '08 and '11. Believe me, I love it, I have my Bills polo on at work today, I'm kibitzing with the other two Bills fans I work with here in Virginia, I'm just saying I'd feel much better about the future if in the past the team had beat a team or two with a winning record. That's all.

5-1 is certainly intoxicating for a fan. What concerns me is that the record of the opponents the Bills have beaten this year is something like 6-26 and of course the one lose was to the only team they've played with a winning record. The next several games should be wins on paper. The Eagles scare me as they're probably desperate already.

I was just thinking of that....I always get sucked in when they start out the season strong....uggg

What are sand bass? I've heard a black bass, smalley's. large mouth, striped bass, but never sand bass....

If I can pull it off, I don't let my wife know there is a bye week....and I tell her bye, going to watch the game....

I'm embarrassed to ask this as I have been away from WNY for many years, but what's the plus one? Hot dogs, pizza, weck or wings? Seems more like a quartet v. a Trinity +1....

That's a good one - will try to see where I can use that in the future....work's out, too much HR stuff to deal with, maybe with some friends, maybe here is a couple months when people forget.

I won the Jr. division of the PBA tour event in Buffalo during the summer of 1977 or 78 - think it was called the Big E open....beat a couple pros....no organized football though - too scrawny...

Ah, I get it - very sneaky...and so true now, particularly with what California just enacted...can't wait for the NCAA's reaction to that.

+1

No doubt a great scheme - however, I would have expected that the OL was prepared for that based on film work and while I only listened to the game not watched it, it sure sounded like the OL was getting dominated.