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It was a joke based on all the other things described about the player

So you are saying we need Diggs (just a joke)

Ah, I thought it would have been the inverse personally as CB's seem to get over paid in FA more than Safety's in general. If that was the case, then yes, give me Reed over Holland as well. I agree with you on the secondary and would love to see us go from Douglas to Reed

We can get Garrett and still sign DJ Reed, which I would love if we landed Reed. Personally, I think Holland makes more sense as he will cost less IMO and still addresses our secondary, but would also love landing Reed. Garretts cap hit is only $5M this year according to the articles I read, so it would allow us to be active in FA to some degree still as well.

Yet there are people trying to tell me the solution is to not address the defense and instead push all our available chips in on a WR. We had the 16th best offense in NFL history this season, scored 29 against the stingy Chiefs Defense despite having the Refs steal a scoring drive from us twice in one set of downs, and watched out defense allow the Chiefs to score 32 despite never scoring 30 even once this season while they were without their best WR. Defense is, and has been, the problem. Go get Garrett or Crosby so the defense finally has a difference maker. Then look to address Safety and CB via FA and draft (I would try and sign Holland). We still need to address WR, make no mistake about it, but maybe we make a FA play for Tee Higgins...or maybe we try and use one of our 2nd's to trade for a proven WR, and if we can't find the right WR via trade or FA, then look to draft one in the 2nd (assuming our first was used to get Garrett or Crosby) or use some picks to move up to get the right guy. You can still address CB in FA and mid range of the draft where they have had pretty good success finding value both ways.

I don't disagree that this is a big offseason for Beane, this team is on the door step, but teams like the Chiefs are not going anywhere and will have a chance to also get better this offseason, and will also get their best WR back next year. IMHO, he needs to make a big move or hit big on a player in the draft. And sure, people criticized Beane this offseason over the WR room...but then what happened? The Bills offense went out and was historically great this year...16th best offense in the history of the NFL despite the offense coasting for entire 4th quarters, even some halves and taking the final week off. It set numerous records both as a team and multiple individual records. As far as to why we lost...lets be reasonable here...we scored 29 against a team who had not broken 30 on offense the entire season, it should have been enough. And we did it against a tough D on the road in a hostile environment with one of the NFL's all time best DC's. And we can take that further by citing the refs directly stole more points from us and probably the game when they took away a first down twice within 2 plays to swing the whole game when we were up 1 and already in FG range with a chance to go up 2 scores. Instead, the refs stole the spot twice (Kincaid on 2nd down and Allen on 4th) and the game flipped to us down 7 when KC drove to score and convert a 2pt conversion. NOTE: To be fair, its also on our coaching staff for not challenging the Kincaid spot that was good by over a half yard where they instead rushed a bastardized tush push on 3rd down. The Houston ending turned out to be more Josh going rogue, and its why McD was livid on the sidelines when Allen broke protocol and tried going to deep to Hollins because as Josh put it, he thought he saw something there pre snap. I actually am way more pissed about us not challenging the Kincaid spot against KC, that mistake very likely cost us the game. But yeah, his stock increased by exceeding this season and having the whole nation furious at how bad we got F***ed by the refs on that game swinging missed first down (twice). And they also screwed us on spots for first downs on a Cooper play and Cook play too, we just ended up converting still so its not being talked about. The way I see it, the 4 glaring needs are WR, DL, S, and CB. I want to see him go get a proven difference maker on the DL via trade like Crosby or Garrett, sign someone like Holland at S, and then if we don't resign Cooper (I personally don't think he is the answer) we could look to make a move for a WR in FA or Trade, and if not address WR in the draft early while looking at the midrounds to add a CB (or 2). Perfect world for me is trade our first and a pick next year for Crosby then try and pry DK from Seattle for one of our 2nds. Probably a pipe dream, but that would be my dream scenario.

He is the difference and has been the difference. Its not even a question.

But that doesn't really prove the roster was bad, all it really proves that in a QB driven league, the QB's in between were that bad.

Post of the early offseason so far…well played sir hahaha. I wonder how many people’s “missed” the beauty of this gem haha

Get er’ done Beane!!!

Oh I don't disagree with you about the calls, its mind blowing they blew the Worthy non-catch, missed the Kincaid first down (but that is also partly on our own staff for not challenging but instead hurrying up trying to sneak it) and 2 plays later denying Allen the first down he clearly got. I don't think it was a "fix" per se, but the problem with the Chiefs is that they are so good that when a ref blows a call it can be monumental in the outcome of the game. The Chiefs don't make many, if any, mistakes in crunch time or close games. So when the refs do something to take a drive away from their opponent, make a bad call to extend a Chiefs drive, etc it makes over taking the Chiefs a near impossible feat without absolute perfection by their opponent. We have robots on Mars we can talk to and exchange data with...you can't tell me they can't get some tech to determine where the ball should rightfully be spotted in a timely fashion.

Maxx is my wish list player, he is younger too. While I would definitely prefer to spend less than 2 first rounders, but given our firsts are so late, I wouldn't object to sending this years and next years first for either player. My wish list offseason would be see if we can get Maxx for a first and change and then see if we can send one of our 2nds to Seahawks for DK. Not going to pretend to know how to make that work with the cap, but I would bet there is a path to make it work. We land Maxx and DK, I don't care what we do with the rest of the roster, we are SB favorites next year. Admittedly, I would think that is highly unlikely we could get both...but that is why this I called it my "wish list" lol. But if I can choose one or the other, I am going Maxx for sure.

Yeah, and this is also why I don't want to rely on the draft solely to fix our issues because we haven't been hitting difference makers on either side of the ball with our premium picks which doesn't help to always be picking late. Lots of starters, good players even, some busts...but we lack more impact players. I would much rather see us do for our defense what Beane did for our offense when it needed that top level player to take the next step up...and that is trade for a proven impact player like he did with Diggs when the Allen needed it in his development. I expect WR, DL, S, and CB to be the focus this offseason, and I am just hoping for once we can go get that impact player on defense, something we have yet to have in the Allen era.

This is the least that has ever been asked of him though. And many of his runs will always be runs for Allen every year. He is always going to be a guy they go to on down and short. He is always going to be a guy who will take off if he sees a big opening. Again, no one is saying we don't need a WR. The push back is to those who want to ignore defense and again (for the 4th offseason in a row) skew heavy to the offense, an offense that just finished as the 16th best in NFL history and that is with the offense taking whole quarters, even some halves off this year in blow out wins and not playing even in the last game. We for sure need to add a WR, but like the Chiefs dynasty...like the Pats dynasty...it doesn't need to be some all in move for an elite player while we just bandaid our defense again. That isn't likely change much, if anything at all. Go make the splash play on the defense to finally get one difference maker there, and then still add to our WR room with good players that fit the offense and address where we are weaker. This is a spread the ball around offense who also wants to run the ball effectively for as long as Brady is here, some top end WR impact will be capped on that fact alone. Not to mention, scoring is not our issue.

Every team spends resources on both sides of the ball...but saying we "dumped" resources is just not accurate. We used 3 of our last 5 first round picks on weapons for Josh. We have used 4 of our last 6 picks in the first 2 rounds of the draft on offense. We had a draft a couple years ago where I think the entire draft but one pick was offense. We already spent our 3rd this year on a WR in Cooper. No disrespect, but we have been offensive heavy for 3 straight seasons before this one.

16th best offense in history...numerous NFL records by the offense and players on the offense. But you want to complain about the OC?

All good, it was just you said 7 more points in your previous post Again, nobody has once said not to address WR. And this above reads like you want to go all in on WR in case someone else gets hurt when WR injuries had zero to do with our playoff loss this year, or any year for that matter. Although Defensive issues sure have been a part of our playoff losses. But that was literally our entire season this year...a season where he had the least % of plays in history with a sack or turnover, a season where he wasn't even sacked for 4 straight games, a season where we were the 16th best offense in the history of the NFL. And again, no one is saying don't add a WR, literally no one. Its clear as day that WR along with DL, S, and CB are our 4 biggest needs/priorities entering the offseason. I have even personally stated WR is definitely a need and a priority. The debate is on those people who want to over spend on one WR and then just patch work our defense again. That has already not worked for teams like the Dolphins, Bengals, etc. We already score more points than Vikings with Jefferson/Addison...Miami with Hill/Waddle...Eagles with Brown/DeVonta and Barkley...Bengals with Burrow, Chase, and Higgins. We score more points than anyone has for the past 5 seasons. But who is in the SB going for their record 3rd straight SB Win? A team with a mediocre offense that didn't score 30 even one time...UNTIL...they played the Bills in the AFCCG. Who was the last dynasty before the Chiefs? Pats who won their 6 SB's with average receiving weapons at WR for Brady or worse but they always had guys that fit their system and a run game and a defense to support the greatness of what Brady did on the field. NOTE: Mahomes and Chiefs best offensive season - Didn't reach the SB (2018 they had 3rd best offense in history). The last time Mahomes was in the SB with an elite WR (Hill) they got blown out by the Bucs when their defense shut down the Chiefs. Brady's best offensive season - Lost in the SB to Eli Manning when the Giants D shut down the then highest scoring offense in history. Interesting enough, Brady's other SB loss was when he threw for over 500 yards in the Super Bowl and still lost to Nick Foles. Yet Brady's first SB win...they beat the "Greatest show on Turf" shutting down the vaulted Rams offense and throwing to scrubs at WR. Brady's last SB win in NE...they only scored 13 points and still won by TWO scores when they shut down the again vaulted Rams offense with McVay and held them to 3 points. So when in history does going all in on WR's and neglecting defense translate into a SB win? How many times has that ever worked? Now go look at see how many times a defense made a big impact on a teams SB victory...when a defense countered an elite offense. Even look back at all the SB winner the past 20 years...not many even had an elite WR. Again...when you score over 31 a game (and that is after we took the final week off essentially too), expecting to score more isn't easily accomplished. But when your defense is in the bottom of the league on 3rd down...bottom of the league on number of first downs allowed...and so on...adding a difference maker can impact that in a big way and make a more significant impact, especially when just a single stop on 3rd/4th down on one of the Chiefs scoring drives literally changes the losses to a win in our last 3 postseason losses to them.

Fair, but he also verbatim said he can't talk about it, even the reporter who posed the question to him about the refs said while asking him the question he knows he is not allowed to talk too much about it as he asked him.

What does Carolina have to do with anything? Brady just led the Bills to a historical offensive season. They are the 16th highest scoring offense in NFL history...16th highest scoring team in history. They had the least % of plays in NFL history that resulted in a sack or turnover. Josh set numerous individual records. Shakir set the record for most consecutive targets caught in history. We had the most games in NFL history with a 20+ margin of defeat. So how is anyone complaining about the hiring of Brady at this point, let alone his time in Carolina. Whats next, people going to complain about Bill Belichick's time in Cleveland now? And the Panthers suck as an organization...they couldn't get anything out of Baker or Darnold both who had great seasons and took their teams to the playoffs while Carolina continues to flutter in irrelevancy without a proven QB. Blaming any OC for stuggles in Carolina who haven't had a QB since Cam Newton fell apart is wild to me.

He did that though, he literally said that was a first down by Allen and that Worthy didn't make that catch.

Why not compare the 1990 Bills while you are at it? I mean this isn't the same roster, DC, or OC of those teams...its as irrelevant of a comparison as it gets. And we NEVER had any kind of a difference maker at ANY point on our DL...never once. Not on those teams, not on this team. Meanwhile...no one in the NFL has scored more points than the Bills the past 5 seasons. No player has scored more TD's than Allen in the history of the NFL at this stage of their career. No team has one more games by 20+ points than we did this year. No QB in history had a lower percentage of plays that resulted in a sack or turnover than Allen did this season. Allen is number 1 in all kinds of playoff QB records. What has it gotten us. Nothing. Nothing at all. While you sit here and complain about the D not being good enough simultaneously arguing to NOT improve the D.

So let me get this straight...your argument against improving the defense is to point out how the defense isn't good enough? Lol

Not sure why I even have to tell you this...Allen was taking WAY more hits in the years past than he did this year...and its not close. He had the lowest % of plays with a sack, INT, or fumble in NFL history. He went 4 games without even getting sacked at one point.

16th highest scoring offense in history...that was the Bills this year. We had the most wins in history by 20+ points. Allen set multiple individual records. Now...there are only so many drives in a game that we get...for your theory to work would mean we are not scoring at a high rate. But we do score at a high rate, more than anyone the past 5 seasons. You guys don't understand how much harder it is to increase our score by 7 points per game. That would literally ties us for the #1 offense in the history of the NFL with the 2013 Broncos...who got destroyed in the SB scoring only 8 points against a defensvie and run first team. Just like the former #1 offense Patriots got shut down in their SB to a mediocre wild card Giants team with a wicked DL. Just because we go all in on some huge WR doesn't not by any means we score "more" points. And let me tell you, its a LOT easier to add a difference maker to our defense who can just affect one more play/drive and get KC (or whoever) off the field one more time instead of allowing a scoring drive than it is to add a player to your offense that transforms your offense into the greatest offense in history. So its not the solution people think it is, nor is it as feasible as people think it is.

The defense doesn't stink...its a play or two away from being the difference in the games. We need an impact player that all they need to do is help affect a drive or two and the game goes from a close game to multi score leads. We just fielded the 16th highest scoring offense of all time...16th all time. It can't get much better than that...and even when it does, it has not resulted in SB wins for anyone in the top 10 outside the 5th ranked team (2011 Packers) and all the way back in 1983 with the Redskins. Thats it. But lets keep doing the same crap over and over again...we arent outscoring them with a hitorical great offense...so maybe just maybe we should try and let them score less. Not to mention, its the ONLY thing that has gotten Mahomes out of the playoffs in 7 years.