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Actually it’s not. No disrespect…but…You just stating your opinion doesn’t make it BS. I’m not claiming he is getting released…but I’ve also heard there is real substance to this from people I trust. Doesn’t mean it’s imminent, but the Pats are looking at how to get back some of the guaranteed money if they do. There are already things not meshing well with the coaching staff that go beyond the boat and Vrabel isn’t thrilled with the situation right now. And Vrabel wields a big stick there right now. Can it be salvaged still…sure…but to outright say it’s BS and has no chance of happening is not accurate. If I was forced to choose between whether he is on the team week 1 or not, I would lean towards he probably is. But I also wouldn’t be confident enough in that to place a wager on it either and just rule out a release.

There is buzz the Pats might release Diggs, not just over the boat incident either…including things like questioning if he’s really all in there in NE. He better find a way to convince people in NE he is worth keeping around and fast because there is no way at 31, coming off an ACL, and then being released (if he is) that he will get anything close to what NE gave him which honestly was already a legit shock. He gets released then he better be ready to play on a cheap 1 year deal because that’s all he will get, if even that.

Absolutely. My wife asked me “How will you hide your b*ner if we meet Josh?” And I said “Who said anything about hiding it?”

My wife’s friend and her husband are, she is Hailee’s makeup artist. Hoping to meet them at the Golf Tournament he’s playing in Lake Tahoe in July that we are going to.

Do we have to just pick one? lol

He’s been pretty strict on what he puts in his body and he’s hyper focused on proving he’s not done after the injury. So I would just personally be a little surprised if he was a user rather than just a provider in this instance. Especially with camp here and the risks with drug testing as well. It’s not uncommon for athletes to bring “party favors” when they aren’t using them themselves. But who knows, maybe he does…just saying I’d be a little surprised

Yeah that was it...so bad, for some reason I thought he was on the team longer than that after it, but still should have been cut before he hit the showers lol

He gave the items to the girls, so doubt he was using them. But certainly warrants a drug test, but I would be surprised if he failed from what we know about Diggs personally.

The worst play I have ever personally witnessed was watching Trent run out of bounds on 4th down on our final drive of the game instead of trying to make a play happen. Most pathetic, gutless, unacceptable play I have ever seen live in a game. She should have been benched or cut before he hit the showers.

Lol...the dumbest part of this by Diggs is he knows there is a camera recording lol. That being said, not sure how anyone could discipline Diggs here. I haven't heard of Pink Coke before, but regardless of what it was or wasn't, not sure how anyone can prove it was if Diggs denies it and says it was something else. So I think the only person Diggs may be in the most trouble with is his boo Cardi B lol...although rumor is she was also on the boat, so maybe not lol

Thank you! The myth of Trent Edwards is wild to me. I remember that season when we started 4-0 and I started a thread stating if he doesn't play better we would miss the playoffs. I got flamed left and right because we were "4-0" - albeit we had just beat 4 of the worst teams in the NFL. Trent had 1 TD in each game...our Def/ST combined for more TD's over that 4 game span than Trent had himself. And we barely beat 2 of those really bad teams that year. He wasn't good, all he did was just not make mistakes while we beat the bottom feeding teams and let our defense/ST help carry us to wins. Soon as our defense and ST stopped scoring TD's we couldn't win a game with the president of Dakota Fannings fan club at the helm. He was never good. He showed some potential as a rookie, then created false hope when he wasn't doing a whole lot in a hot 4-0 start against bad teams where our D and ST were scoring an unsustainable amount of times, and then just went on to never improve from what he had been. And the injury myth still persists to this day for some as the reason he stunk

Bahahaha...post of the week Man, those were some dark days. When your teams most popular or clamored for football player is the back up QB no matter how bad they are, its a very dark era at QB. I mean we lived through times where people made cases for guys like Brohm, Cardale Jones, etc just because they had yet to get on the field in a real game and prove they were trash yet. Gross

On a positive note...I will say this...the notes coming out on Keon so far this offseason are very encouraging so far and raising the level of excitement and optimism around Keon IMHO. Earlier this offseason Josh was speaking publicly about how Keon has been in his ear all off season about how he can get better and be better for Josh. Then he shows up with 10 more pounds of muscle and reportedly looking faster than ever in his cuts and just faster overall. It's way too early to put too much stock into anything, good or bad, especially before pads go on. But we are at least hearing the things we want to hear about him thus far. But the one thing I maintained heading into the offseason is that Keon wants it...he wants to be great. And that for me is what I want to see in the young guys, that drive, commitment, extra gear to really push themselves in the offseason to come back and be a better version of themselves. And he has a lot of guys on this team that know what thats like and put that work in during their own careers, including his MVP QB and fellow WR Shakir more recently.

Keon has the most potential/upside on the current roster at the X, but based on where he is right now, he is probably best suited to play out of the Z. Watching him in LA, Palmer can play both, but the Z is what best suits his game. So Keon 100% is going to be given every opportunity to try and demonstrate that on the current roster he is the best option at the X this year. That being said, I also wouldn't be surprised to see them rotate Palmer and Keon some this year between the two either, especially if Keon isn't taking enough of a step forward at the X.

Oh don't get me wrong, its smart to sit him as I know it can lead to other injuries. That is why in my post I said the injury on its own isn't serious and sitting him is precautionary. Just look at what happened to Durant on the Warriors in the postseason his last year there. What I was brushing off is that its May...calf injuries themselves are not hard to get past or heal. When I pulled mine playing basketball it hurt so bad I thought something in my knee popped. I was back to playing full court without issue 4 weeks later just from sitting on my 48 year old butt at home playing with my kids and not doing too much to aggravate it. And this is a 29 year old professional athlete with a full medical and training staff at his disposal. So a call pull its not very concerning at this point and him just sitting out some early parts of the season ins't a big deal and just precautionary.

Fair enough...I didn't pick up on the joke, so my bad. I agree that a little concern is warranted given his history and agree that the sky is falling stuff is way over the top. So agree with all of this and sorry I missed the sarcasm initially, its hard to tell who is joking or over the top sometimes here because the over the top is comically absurd at times.

Why would we cut him though? He is on a 1 year deal and has a calf pull, something I play full court basketball on at age 48 and without the benefit of a training staff.

Im really high on both of them and never expected we could get Landon where we did, could be steal of the draft IMHO. So its even better when we start seeing some early buzz on them and hope that momentum just keeps building throughout camp and preseason

I get this is TSW, so TSW is gonna full on TSW every chance it can add to the theatre of dramatics and negativity... ...but come one...its a pulled calf...hardly concerning. Its better to just be cautious and keep him out, its not a serious injury, on its own. Its just OTA's too Its May...long time until January. Now back to your regularly scheduled program of beating the dead horse on receivers...lol

Gotcha, but I just didn’t take his post as out right blaming Brady, he threw out lots of potential factors. All good

And honestly, Keon has publicly acknowledged this too. As I stated in a post above, it was both a mature and immature moment for him...on the positive, he had the right unselfish mindset where all that matters is they were winning, so he didn't want to rock the boat and just expect his targets now that he was back. At the same time, the immature side and the issue the coaches and Beane had was having less involvement initially on his return affected his intensity and effectiveness. And for me, its just a growing pain really where he needs to learn how to balance that correct unselfish mentality while maintaining the same focus and intensity until his number is called. I don't know how successful or not his 2nd season will be, but I am not too worried about this aspect of it. I think we will see an improved version of the guy pre-injury more than we are likely to see more of the guy post injury IMHO. Doesn't mean he for sure erases everyones concerns, but I do expect we he should him more consistently involved this year and I think 900+ yards and 7+ TD's are probably realistic goals for him this season. Which would be a pretty good season in an offense where we spread the ball around a lot and run the ball a lot.

Thats not what the poster was asking...he was asking why the dip in targets on his return from injury. Keon weighed in on this, and he said the offense was humming and they were doing some other things and he didn't feel he could come back and just be like get me my targets back. They were winning and that was all that mattered. And this was both a mature and immature moment from him, and I think it was also the biggest gripe and area of growth Beane and McD had at end of the season. On one hand, you want that unselfish attitude, but on the other I think what was clear on film is that when he had the mindset where he wasn't gonna get the ball it affected his play compared to earlier in the season where he felt like he could get more opportunities or targets at any given moment. We saw this with how he ran some routes, how he had some mental mistakes and drops, etc. He wasn't as dialed in and that also affected his targets. None of that has anything to do with other perceived strengths or weaknesses. None of that is to debate whether he can or wont get open. But the question the poster you replied to was looking for possible reasons for seeing less targets post injury when he had started to have some stronger games before getting hurt. I mean in week 11 he was on pace for 800-900 yard range and 7+ TD's, which is a solid season for a rookie on a spread the ball around team who still runs the ball a lot too. But after his return, there was a noticeable decline in his involvement and performance as well. Doesn't mean other factors were not also at play, but Keon, Beane and McD have alluded to a lot of what I just said in speaking about it since then.

I have a couple friends who have worked on this show a while, and you are pretty spot on with what you said here. And there is definitely no one from the team involved in editing or post. You nailed the formula of the show 100%, and its wild to me what some of these people in here think the show is going to go hard after their perceived issues at WR like it was a TSW thread lol. Hard Knocks is a narrative and story based show, its not an analytical show there to do in depth analysis on the team or its roster. Its there to let the fans at home inside what its like to be inside a real NFL camp, and its been that way since day 1. In my personal opinion, I think this season will end up being one of the best ones from an entertainment value overall. Lots of great stories, characters, and a unique vibe in the locker room. Great mix of charismatic vets (Josh, Tre, Dion, etc) and youngsters (Keon, Hairston, etc) with a lot of just good likable people too like Shakir, Josh again, Beane, Davis, etc. Lot of good heart string stories here, the fans, the new stadium, the MVP, and on and on.

Agreed

The issue with PFF is people’s opinion changes on it on every piece of data it puts out based on their own confirmation bias. When the data matches their views, then the data is great…when it doesn’t match their views, then PFF is a joke and sucks. I don’t say that about anything to do with this thread, just commenting on the convenient times PFF is good or bad depending on whether the data confirms or conflicts with one’s bias.