Never NEVER Give-up

It wasn't but a few short years ago that we were laughing at the Pats. We were riding high with Kelly & Levy and they were falling all over themselves. Now they have Brady & Belechick and they are ruling the roost. It's a QB league and when we find one, we'll be back - but it's a lot easier said than done. I really admire (& am jealous of) what Wash did last year - going after RGIII - Now they are set at QB (if he's not killed) for 10 yrs. The Bills need to ID their guy and go after him - it'll cost a lot, but they need to go get him and then shore up the LB corps.

Get a hold of yourself, man!! Act like you've been there before - and you have!! The Ravens won SB35 - in 2000. So quitcher cryin!!! We were crushed losing 4 in a row - but never acted like this nancy. . . . . with all due apologies to the girls named Nancy out there . . .

It doesn't happen anymore. Knox had guts and reading the excerpt above was news to me - and refreshing! He WANTED the challenge! He knew if he turned the sad-sack Bills around, it would be a major accomplishment. Today's 'name' coaches won't take on a job unless they know they have a great QB on the roster or unless they're lined up to draft one at the top of round 1. They know it's very difficult to win without a great QB and many are afraid to tarnish their reputations on a team without one. See Cowher, Shanahan, etc. What's Cowher waiting for anyway? Another coupe of years and he'll have to beg for a job (probably not - but it SHOULD be that way).

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/8835043/pro-football-hall-fame-finalists-michael-strahan-warren-sapp-many

Gone fishin!!

This!! We have no LB's worth a darn. Barnett is a good 3rd man IF you had 2 other good LB's!! Switching to a 34 would mean we need even more LB's. Let's walk before we run!! I'd prefer we stay in a base 43 and add wrinkles. To have a 34 you need a Ted Washington (remember those days!?!?) to eat up space on the interior. Dareus and K-Williams are penetrators, best suited to an attacking 43, but everyone looks bad in this defense when the LB's don't make plays.

Completely agree - Levitre and Byrd aren't going anywhere!

http://www.cnycentral.com/sports/story.aspx?id=844364

Looking at the Syracuse-area articles on OBD - there's one that says that Jerry Sullivan confirmed the hire with Russ Brandon via text messages. Knowing JS works for the Bflo News, one would think he'd mention it in HIS OWN PAPER!!!

THIS!!

HANG ON RON RIVERA!!!

Once Belechick learns how to defend him, he'll trade him to Bflo!!

Similar sentiments here. He's a class act and I wish him nothing but the best. And having been unemployed myself, I always feel for people in similar circumstances - but in Chan's case, he won't be poor, he still has a year or 2 on his contract at about $1MM per year - he'll be OK and I hope he catches on somewhere!!

At $10/hr? If I wasn't working I'd pitch-in!

Very interesting conversation! Here's my 2 cents . . . Pass Interference - leave the rule as it, but call it like it's written. If the ball is not catachable - as determined by the zebra huddle after the play, then pick up the flag or and this would be a new rule - call it illegal contact - 5 yds, automatic 1st down. Challenging PI Calls - won't work because it needs to cut both ways - the offense would also need to be able to challenge non-calls of PI. Games would take 5 hours! Face Mask - Player Safety was the reason for eliminating the 5 yd incidental call. 15 yds is and should be the rule Tuck Rule - if it hasn't been eliminated, it should be. If the QB drops the ball - it's a fumble. When a QB cocks his arm to throw and the ball slips out and his arm/empty hand go forward - that's a fumble - as it should be. The tuck rule is complicated and defies reason. If the ball is dropped - it's a fumble. Intent to throw forward or lateral - they should change this to remove intent (like they did on the face mask penalty). It's too hard for Ref's to guage intent. If the QB releases the ball after a throwing motion and it falls to the ground - it is either an incomplete forward pass or if it lands behind the imaginary line from which the ball was released, it's a lateral and a free ball ( or similar to a fumble). Was anyone thinking Home Run Throwback when Mario caused Tannehill to throw the ball sideways?!?!?! LOL

Everyone seems to be forgetting that Philly's Offensive Line sucks and it's that unit that got him killed this year. I think he may end up being the best short term solution. Even if they get him, the Bills still need to draft the QB of the future.

Key to Patriots success??? How about hiring a decent defensive coach and then falling backasswards into a 7th round gangly QB who turns out to be one of the best QB's the NFL has ever seen? I think that's how they did it!! If someone copies this method, it'll be the 1st time.

1. Kansas City Chiefs - 2-12 (.469 SOS) 2. Jacksonville Jaguars - 2-12 (.541 SOS) 3. Oakland Raiders - 4-10 (.469 SOS) 4. Philadelphia Eagles - 4-10 (.505 SOS) 5. Detroit Lions - 4-10 (.546 SOS) 6. San Diego Chargers - 5-9 (.474 SOS) 7. Cleveland Browns - 5-9 (.480 SOS) 8. Buffalo Bills - 5-9 (.500 SOS) 9. Tennessee Titans - 5-9 (.526 SOS) 10. Carolina Panthers - 5-9 (.536 SOS) 11. Arizona Cardinals - 5-9 (.543 SOS) 12. Tampa Bay Buccaneers - 6-8 (.469 SOS) 13. Miami Dolphins - 6-8 (.500 SOS) 14. New York Jets - 6-8 (.526 SOS) 15. New Orleans Saints - 6-8 (.528 SOS) 16. St. Louis Rams - 6-7-1 (.536 SOS) 17. Pittsburgh Steelers - 7-7 (.469 SOS) 18. Dallas Cowboys - 8-6 (.515 SOS) 19. New York Giants - 8-6 (.538 SOS) 20. Chicago Bears - 8-6 (.546 SOS)

To be truthful, it took me a couple of seconds too. Nice sarcasm!!

Puleeeease!! Foles' pick was a thing of beauty wasn't it?!?!?!? He lofted a duck - the DB stopped running and waited for it to flutter into his arms! He sucks and will be a mediocre QB for the rest of his career. People here would have been screaming for his head! Just because another team has got a guy, so many of us believe he must be better! I swear Buffalo fans are masochists - they just LOVE to whine and cry about their lot in life. It's Buddy's fault, It's Chan's fault. It's Fitz's fault. No, the problem is at the top - it's Wilson's fault! Wha, wha, wha . . . We all thought they had a shot this year and being the crybabies we are, we're lashing out at everyone for everything bad that happens. Grow-up. I am so sick of the overwhelming negativity - it's exhausting. Buddy had a plan and has stuck with it. We ARE seeing improvement (deny it if you like, but it's true). The only thing we are not seeing is the wins - a pick last week and we win, a late completion against the Pats - we win, defending the 4th down pass against Tenn - we win - then we'd be 8-5 and people would be singin' in the streets. The point is, in the parity-driven NFL, the line between success & failure is so fine, it's blurred! So Buddy's options or Mr. Wilson's (if he wants to get rid of Buddy) is to blow it up again and start over. Or stay the course, looking to upgrade every position that can be upgraded and keep grinding at it. This team has a 13 year habit of finding ways to lose. It's a hard habit to break. If we want to continue that, blow it up. To end it, keep doing what you're doing and adding pieces that make you better, The change will come suddenly - when they start winning and believing in themselves - it'll snowball in a positive direction! But now is not the time to panic and call the whiner line. No one is happy with the W-L record, but they're closer to flipping this thing around than they have been since Flutie left.

I heard Buddy on GR55 this morning - he said in no uncertain terms now is the time for them to draft a QB. If they see "a guy" they will target him and move up to get him.

I would take Vick (33 yrs old) as a short-term solution and upgrade over Fitz. I feel this way because (1) I am not encouraged by this year's QB draft class, (2) I don't think there will be a better FA alternative, (3) it may be next to impossible to trade for anyone better and (4) he's paid his debt to society and has been a model citizen since his release from prison. But this is a short term solution - for him to play with this team which has improved overall, but looks like it's stuck in the mud due to poor QB play. This will give Buddy a chance to ALSO find the QB of the future in the draft.

Making room for Rolando McClain!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

This is where we fans lose perspective. He wants a Luck or RG3, he didn't want to get a guy who's the equivalent of Fitz &/or would need to sit for 3 years. He wants impact players and the QBs he passed on were not sure things (though I agree many have panned out so far). Buddy's been 'buying the groceries' for 3 years now. He has a plan. It wasn't to get the best QB right off the bat and get him killed with the inferior talent around him and he's told us as much. The first 2 years was to get good drafts. Remember how we all whined that he didn't get any FA's (of value) the first 2 years? Then in year 3 we had a collective off-season orgasism (sp) when he signed Mario. Then he signs Anderson - we were beside ourselves. He almost had WR Meachem too. He said at the time they didn't want to get the FA's the 1st 2 years because that would be wasting money (earrings on a pig, so to speak). They'd be getting paid while everyone around them looks like JV back-ups. But once he had a couple of decent drafts and the team was looking like it could start to challenge, he went after those big fish. What I really like about Buddy is that he doesn't talk down to us. He tells us if he can't tell us something and he has told us what his plan is and he's stuck to it. Two things have happened to make the plans look worse than expected. Fitz hasn't improved nor played consistently above average and the defense hasn't panned out as hoped (yet). But he's really done everything he said he was gonna do. I believe (I do not know this) that he didn't go after Manning because he wants a young guy, not a guy ready to retire when the rest of the team is ready to make a run. (Although it would have been sweet to have Manning here. My only hope is that Manning makes Denver forget about Elway. I never liked him for what he did to Baltimore.) But I digress. I think the QB and LB's are the next targets while holding to his mantras - draft well, keep/re-sign your good guys (Levitre, Byrd, etc) and look to improve your roster at all positions - if there's an upgrade out there - you go & get it,

Thanks Marcellosaurus!! I hear what you're saying, BUT it cuts both ways! You can't just look at it the lucky plays where Fitz avoided picks - that's too one-sided. What about Stevie Johnson's drops against PitT & the Jets - there 2 wins down the drain right there. I won't try and research other plays, but I am sure there just as many bad luck plays where we dropped passes, dropped picks, fumbled and made penalties - and of course had the Refs go against us (LOL).