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Based on what we have, likely 2 scenarios for Allen and the bills to go over the superbowl hump. The Peyton Manning way and the John Elway way. The former way requires excessively driven QB making the right moves along with the team and getting the breaks from the main competitors. I thought this year is one of that for the Bills earlier in the season but soon proved to not be the case. The latter way means there is a management change and we are lucky enough to get someone who can maximize a declining qb talent but with enough cheap young talent to push us over the top.

Does it really matter at this point if he was the the 1stt choice, the 9th choice or the 27th choice if he helps the Bills win a few games the rest of the way?

We may not have been a wild card as of today. Rather afce leaders, maybe overall afc leaders. Don't forget this regime has never won a road playoff game

I will standby by Amari Cooper got us into the playoffs, even if he had minimal actual production (especially after the injury).

Can't wait til he gets a deep ball this weekend that falls incomplete and then he gets hurt

Yup. We just need to make better use of him and his skillset.

Idk, he couldn't get along with Wink Martindale....Wink was showing him up?

Why too late?

All i can say is...YOWSA!

Honestly, the only people that *want* to miss the playoffs for the sake of change are just trying to make themselves feel better in the event the Bills choke and don't get in.

And a handful of draft picks too. But I know he is ignoring the position from some posters here.

im saying we have Fox and Solomon here already

Not too little. But yeah too late

He’s another washed up guy, but at this desperation point, whatever.

anyone want to guess which poster is the least wanted at thanksgiving every year?

So who are our wideouts? Cooks, Palmer, Shakir, Gabe, Moore and Shavers? Samuel is hurt (no surprise there), Mecole is hurt (no surprise there either) and Coleman is in the doghouse. Is this better than the opening day roster of Palmer, Coleman, Shakir, Moore, Samuel and Shavers, with Gabe on IR/PS?

I have to say this is one of the more interesting debates I've seen on TSW lately. Good points on both sides.

As clear an indictment on Beane's GM acumen as any post I've seen.

Small and slow is the mcd secret formula. But them sumbitches are smart. Kinda

Augs …I’m sure the 9th time is the charm..

"it's 3rd and 11 and and a bubble screen to Cooks goes for 2 yards. Bills Punt."

I can't anymore w/ the Allen narratives. I've lost track of the # of "Allen always chokes in the playoffs" comments I've seen from other fans. When he has basically been immaculate. And if he's reverting a bit this year on the turnovers, it's pretty obvious why to those of us who watch the team every week. No one to throw to, no one open, and just trying to make something happen - because if he doesn't, we'll lose.

What's the under on how many days he will get injured and be out for 3 months?

I’ve been crushing the Bills for not having a guy that’s ever had more than 851 yards receiving in a season. I can’t be mad about them bringing in a guy with 6 seasons over 1k (even if 4 of them were before Covid was a thing and 2 were socially distanced). Cooks is a pro. He’s proven that he can get open. He isn’t the player that he was a decade ago but he’s an upgrade to some of the guys they have now. We shouldn’t expect him to be dynamic but he may contribute a little. For Thanksgiving, that’s not a bad addition.