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Torches? Sort of like his state was on fire? He should worry about California.

I didn't know the 2023 class had this reputation. Going down the draft class it seems like a mid-level NFL draft class. Not an all timer but not a stinker either. Richardson is a bust at QB but Stroud seems to be someone whose gonna start in the league for a long time with potential to be a top 10 guy consistently. Bryce Young seemed lost his rookie year but he came on stronger to end last season after being benched. I think he's got a chance to be a starter in the league for awhile if Carolina puts at least a capable offense around him. Jalen Carter and Will Anderson seem to be high end defensive players drafted up high, you have Zay Flowers and Njigba both Pro-Bowl WR's. Puca was a generational rookie and seems to be a solid WR1 thus far in his career. I also think the second round might be an all time generational interior O-line draft. Of course we got Torrence whose been a solid plug and play guard but Cody Mauch, Joe Tippman, Matthew Bergeron, and Steve Availa have all been very strong additions to their teams IOL. Just looking up and down the totality of the draft it seems like it ranks thus far on two year returns to be a average to above average class to me?

Never! We now gotta worry about the endless threat of injury..,, 🤣

What is the deal with Asante Samuel Jr? Why isn't he on a NFL roster?

Don't forget preseason Hall of Famer Brandon Reilly.

Seems really high to me but glad we at least removed the distraction. Will we be able to fit in future deals for guys like OCT or Kincaid if he breaks out? Cap sheet is getting pretty filled up.

I am with you here

I don't even think its about having elite coaching...I think simply having a Head Coach that's not a liability would have been enough for Josh to have gotten to a SB by now

He'll be 30 when it's time for his next deal. History says he'll probably be moving into a supporting role by then.

Anybody else think that the Bills would have a ring if Vrabel was HC?

How about blaming the thiefs? Of course not.

This has been said many times... 1) hr is noy our best 3rd down or receiving back. 2) his blocking isnt good and he didn't do well blocking on the last drive. This is why I would have hold off paying him to see if those aspects improved this year. But they signed him and iy is what it is.

It's in the same spot as GW Bush's. "History's Giants." I'd say the jury's still out on that statement.

Right now is the absolute height of excitement and prices reflect that my opinion is wait until right after week 1, once people get their fix of a game tickets will start moving down in price

Pass protection, I assume. I'd like to see them push him in this area.

You brought up a school shooting, you tell me.

I agree....Torrence isn't going anywhere. He and McGovern will get extended, but Edwards will probably be the odd man out.....luckily for the Bills, they have a lot of young O-line talent waiting in the wings if contracts can't be worked out.

Some years back I bought a new car for cash, and agreed with the salesman on what I thought was a reasonable price. So far so good. But before they print out the paperwork for me to sign, I need to meet with some closer guy who is gonna try to upsell me to buy add-ons. He asks me a bunch of irrelevant questions to which I patiently answer yes. When he thinks he has me in an agreeable mood, the upselling starts. "You really ought to get the extended warranty". "No thanks." "Our dealer installed floormats will protect your car's carpet". "No thanks." The rustproofing will maintain the value of your car". "No thanks". "Well how about our super duper theft prevention system that allows the police to track the location of your vehicle if it gets stolen - - it even comes with this highly visible window sticker making it readily apparent to thieves that they shouldn't mess with this car and should pick an easier target." "I'll pass on the theft protection system, but how much do you want for just the window sticker?" Heavy closer sigh, followed by - - "I'll print out the paperwork."

Allen, Jackson, Mahomes, Burrow as passers all elite... Burrow and to an extent Mahomes are not the running threat... Mahomes has the rings... so to me Allen Jackson Mahomes top 3 Burrow next up.

The ONLY squabble I have with Cook's usage is wondering why he wasn't on the field for the final drive of the AFCCG. Otherwise, they've used him brilliantly.

What in the good holy f are you talking about lmao

Agreed. Some things aren't complicated. Reasonable people want reasonably safe streets that are not littered with needles, garbage, cr@p and where criminals are kept at bay.

Nope but they did write 'Play that funky music" about him.... just sayin... 🤣