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This whole game being on a Sunday night against the Patriots seemed an odd duck when the schedule was announced. Like why put this game in that slot? Should have been a 1 pm game. But makes sense that its the Pats coming out party and return to relevance. The penalties just confirm it.

What's cheesy to you, may not be to a bunch of young kids, which is essentially the Bills roster.

Well then get a meeting with Brady and see if you can change the philosophy of the offense. In the meantime find a top 10 WR. Can’t wait!

Have you seen Ladd lately? His stats are in the toilet. He's healthy. Somehow, QB Justin Herbert decided to make Ladd into a WR3.

Yeah I couldnt make sense of what they were trying to do. Just all over the place in terms of formations and personnel. Then they seemed intent on trying to win outside the hashes. The Patriots corners had no issue running with them. Not even a challenge really. I guess he wanted to throw the kitchen sink at them and adjust at halftime. Instead he wasted two quarters of football trying to do what they cant do.

For comparison sake, here are the Patriots WR snap percentages from the same game … Boutte 62% Hollins 58% Diggs 50%

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Kincaid is the one I have an issue with. If you look at the snap counts for other top TEs around the league, they are all consistently over 70%. Some 90%+. He's our biggest offensive weapon. He needs to be on the field.

I understand the frustration with losing a game to a divisional opponent, but the idea of using a variety of receivers is necessary because Beane chose to ignore a dominant pass catcher in favor of D-line FAs and draft choices.The problem on Sunday was they shut down Cook and then Brady got impatient and went away from the run game in favor of throwing into dangerous double coverages. What’s wrong with Josh distributing the ball to an emerging star in Kincaid, mismatches with Coleman, Shakir, who always gets open when Josh gets flushed or Palmer? Our offense is run first with a top 5 RB which opens up underneath opportunities and limits TOs. You want to vent, focus on the crappy secondary we’ve trotting out there.

Pretty much AZ - MHJ (88%), Mcbride(93%) ATL- London (88%), Pitts (80%) BALT- Flowers (86%), Andrews (70%) CAR- McMillian(89%), Legette (80%) CHI- Odunze (90%), Moore (85%) CIN- Chase (92%), Higgins... bills me Toalexasoaresl 4:19 PM Oct 8 at 4:19 PM AZ - MHJ (88%), Mcbride(93%) ATL- London (88%), Pitts (80%) BALT- Flowers (86%), Andrews (70%) CAR- McMillian(89%), Legette (80%) CHI- Odunze (90%), Moore (85%) CIN- Chase (92%), Higgins (87%) CLE- Jeudy (86%), Njoku (85%) DAL- Lamb (92%), Pickens (86%) DEN- Sutton (87%), Franklin (66%) DET- Brown (88%), Williams (89%) GB- Kraft (92%), Doubs (83%) HOU- Collins (82%), Schultz (72%) INDY- Pittman (87%), Warren (83%) JACK- BTJ (88%), Strange (77%) KC- Juju (76%), Kelce (78%) <--I bet Rice will be out there 85%+ LAC- McConkey (87%), Johnston (86%) LAR- Adams (85%), Nacua (81%) LV- Meyers (93%), Tucker (93%) MIA- Waddle (83%), Hill (78%) MN- Jeffersion (96%), Addison (87%) NE- Henry (87%), Boutte (73%) NO- Olave (88%), Shaheed (77%) NYG- Nabers (91%), Slayton (87%) NYJ- Wilson (97%), Taylor (80%) PHI- Brown (93%), Smith (90%) PITT- Metcalf (88%), Austin (79%) SEA- Kupp (76%), Njigba (74%) SF- Pearsall (83%), Jennings (78%) TB- Egbuka (85%), Evans (80%) TEN- Ridley (79%), Ayomanor (76%) WASH- McClaurin(84%), Deebo (79%)

Is it just me or were the multiple procedure calls for the WR not being on the line of scrimmage a bit nitpicky. Kelce lines up there more often than not to give him a step before he gets jammed at the LOS, he rarely gets called

Mr Brightside is the cheesiest song they could have ever picked. You might as well play Minuto or Mariah carey. It is a Red Sox song. We stole the whole thing from them. Not from Knox's wedding BS. The Red Sox have done it for years since the song came out. The day the Bills did it I puked. But of course, all the buffalonians jumped on it. So cheesy.

That is 100% the point and is not second-guessing because it was called for last week. Getting NE into heavy personnel and taking advantage of them with PA was the way to attack out of the gate. Get them behind and force them to play a game of catchup all night long. The Bills came out with a pathetic plan including Knox jet-sweep and a flea-flicker that was nearly disastrous. That is the stuff you try when Tyrod Taylor is your QB and you don't think you can beat the opponent with your conventional offense. NE couldn't and wouldn't have covered Kincaid all night because they don't have the personnel to handle him. Stop being cute and play to your strengths/the opponent's weaknesses. A few throws early would have greatly opened up lanes for Cook as LBs and S would be thinking PA first. Very frustrating plan from Brady.

I started the all22 yesterday - but didn't get very far into the second half.... I think your summary of the first half in particular and the criticism of Brady is right. The middle of the field was the Bills advantage all night and every time they attacked there - it worked. Unfortunately it felt like they had come in with this plan to try and attack the boundary and the edges and for some reason took way too long (until that penultimate drive and the Keon TD) to get away from it - that drive was almost all middle of the field and we marched.

From the media? On the internet? I don’t think that is possible. I read it, so it must be true.

Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha...You said "Hard on".

So for all that want them to make a change: 1. Give us the names of 3 people who are or would be available that would be a head coaching upgrade over Sean McDermott. 2. Give us the names of 3 people who are or would be available that would be a GM upgrade over Brandon Beane. Any highly successful, well entrenched coaches or GMs are not an acceptable answer (so no Andy Reid, Sean McVay, Kyle Shanahan, Dan Campbell, Howie Roseman, Brian Gutekunst, Brett Veech, to name a few).

Agreed in general, but to deep dive one item (aka nit pick haha), I feel like we are OVER-aggressive in tackling instead of using good technique to breakdown, keep feet moving, and keep the runner in front of you, and make the tackle. Way too often our guys are running full speed at the ball carrier and just run right by them and/or are easily juked. Detroit ran a perfect spy on Lamar who never got too aggressive or fast, and stayed home and stayed in good position for Lamar to come to them, and made tackle after tackle. We make this harder on ourselves than it needs to be. Babich needs to get control of it and get it corrected. Pro players shouldnt be forgetting how to open-field tackle.

“Being an accused murderer with multiple witnesses ain’t what it used to be.”

Everything about the Bills offense is about efficiency. They want to run the ball alot, have a high completions pct., use a lot of different formations to run the same plays, control the clock and then ultimately score TD's in the red zone. Its all about efficiency.

These All-22 reviews make me think the biggest issue isn't maybe needing a big piece on the defense (although I think adding a competent corner will help) but once again is needing an outside WR teams will respect. Keon's improving but he's still very much up and down, Palmer is OK but teams are clearly just OK with him being given one on one matchups, Shakir is a slot machine but not someone whose going to consistently win on the boundary, Kincaid is a TE not gonna be a consistent boundary guy, and Samuel and Moore are more gadget WR's. I think largely the defense is flawed and adding a piece in the secondary will help, but the defense isn't a competent corner or an upgrade over Rapp away from being a dominant top 5 unit either. The PED Twins, Ed, Mad Max, and maybe a starting caliber piece added via trade will help a lot but this defense isn't going to be elite most likely. But the offense getting a Chris Olave type boundary WR would make this offense truly unstoppable. Teams would have to respect the boundary WR's much more consistently. I think an offense that can consistently score with the best of them helps the defense too as it make offenses one dimensional which makes this defense so much more potent. Besides Olave whose a concussion risk I am not sure what other teams have WR's that fit what the Bills need and are bad teams willing to trade a good WR?

100% fake

Corners are very good, against the pass the safeties and LB especially when stacking the box to stop the run, not so much. Instead of trying to run into a wall we should have gone short to the TE RB or slot. Hit enough of those NE has to make a defensive change which most likely allows the run game to open. I agree! Thought Brady did a bad job adjusting to NE was doing.

if Palmer was on the field for all plays would he warrant an $18M a year deal instead of the $9M he currently gets. just like the D line we pay people too much to be part of a rotation. We pay fair market value but then the players play 20-25% less snaps than their peers.

This is very true. There are a lot of people here who would be willing to move on from Beane as the cost for moving on from McDermott. I think by the end of this season I may well be in the opposite camp. I haven't been in favour of firing either of them to this point, but with the 12 major moves Beane made in the spring/summer looking (other than Cook) questionable at best I'm starting to lean towards you have to move on from Beane and if the cost is you move on from McDermott too then so be it.