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Every time I see someone make the point that we have enough and just need Allen to play differently. This seems to be their solution:

I've said the same on multiple occasions. Usually leads to people responding to it with a video of him hitting a deep ball. The thing is, in the videos it's always John Brown or Robert Foster catching them. The common theme there being that neither is on the roster. Now, I agree. He has always struggled on ball placement deep. What compounds the issue is that the Bills haven't made a priority of finding guys that are good deep ball trackers. I'd love to see one season where Josh has a guy that can absolutely blow past DBs deep. Get a guy like Shaheed where Josh can just lay it as deep as possible and the WR can run and go get it. Unfortunately, I don't see it happening. At his season ending presser after (I believe) the 13 seconds game, Beane was asked about getting a WR with speed. He had this whole big response with him saying to the effect of "We would love a guy with speed like Hill. But they don't grow on trees. If you guys know where I can find one let me know." Then a few years later he's got someone with legit game changing speed in Worthy sitting on the board when he picks. So, of course he trades out and grabs the human sloth in Coleman. In fact, I can't remember Beane ever taking a speedster WR. Even as a late round dart throw. Even back to his Carolina days, Benjamin and Funchess were the big WR picks. No speed.

You seem a touch on the dull side and may not have picked up on the fact that all but one republican has voted to end the shutdown and they have been joined by a handful of democrats. The largest federal employee union has also called for democrats to end the shutdown. Instead Washington democrats, with support from people like you, prefer to hurt working people. For leverage purposes. Very sad. V/R, AM

They want someone who can block AND get open, like Mike Evans.

The analytics always point to success = explosive plays. I sort of wonder if Josh and the Bills hold to that same philosophy, which explains the constant big play hunting.

If the Bills don't win this game at least make KC feel it. Tackle well, hit them hard and cause some pain.

It's Mos Eisley Cantina in here.."You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villany. -Obi Wan

I sorry, I can’t agree with this when you look at the film and advanced statistics that both show that our receivers simply cannot get open.

Mahomes had Hill/Kelce Then Kelce in his prime Last year he struggled heavily with no Rice, Kelce down year and a receiver core similar to what we have, but got by with a strong Defense he could rely on This year he’s back to having one of the better WR rooms in the AFC Allen had Diggs & Beasley for a few years and never a Defense he can count on when it matters But we want him to play now like he does..

This is brutal. But I cannot disagree.

This is definitely a burner account.

This drives me nuts. A guy I knew who was an assistant during the super bowl years told a story that Walt Corey would berate the offense for scoring too fast. Seems like we’re getting back there with our self imposed governor on that side of the ball. Run. More. Plays. It drives me nuts.

Why do people want to convince themselves that a quality receiver isn't essential or even needed? Josh hasn't been great, but he will play better for sure, especially if Beane provides a lift to the offense in the form of a threat. The problem is obvious to the eye, secondaries are playing "downhill" against us. I remember some plays vs Atlanta, and even against Carolina, where the I couldn't believe how fast the secondary was moving up and closing on the receiver routes. No fear at all!!

The running game is great and definitely takes pressure off Allen, but the key (as Olsen pointed out during Sunday’s game), is to generate big (20+ yard) plays. You aren’t going to consistently have 10+ play drives vs good defenses. The easiest way to get big plays is to be able to throw the ball downfield, which the Bills are struggling to do, and this is primarily because of the WRs, IMO. What’s really concerning to me is that running the ball as well as they do should tremendously help them throw the ball downfield, but it’s not.

Of all of the Republican giveaways health care is where the line is drawn. Interesting. Maybe, then, the paths to negotiate and to phase out subsidies at a lower income cap. But Republicans won’t do that. Of course, you know all of this, Anus Man.

So I think when I said run, I meant designed run... he seems to be under a bit more duress this year and scrambling.. BUT that is just to my eye, I have not actually gone to a break down to see if this is actually so... I really do not see at all as many designed runs and that is what I was deferring too... I do think they still spy him when he drops back... that said... he is much better at avoiding hits for sure where I think before he seeked contact... I also think he feels the trailing pressure sooner and gets down...

Hurts has Brown and Smith Burrow when healthy has Chase and Higgins Dak has CEE-DEE and Pickens Allen has what at the WR position that would be considered elite... NOTHING!!!

The commanders game was interesting they took away a ton of the designed plays and the chiefs offense was just very well executed improv when the initial play was taken away. thats why pressure is so important against those guys

There's definitely a WR problem, but I agree that Allen has been way underperforming. I don't care what the statistics say this year over last year. He's sucked. And the Oline had a bad game pass blocking vs Atlanta. So in that game, Josh was bad, the Oline was bad and the WRs were bad/injured.

I’d contend that if our WR’s aren’t capable of doing things Allen is comfortable with, thus making him regress with the solution seeming to be forcing him into becoming a game manager, that it’s indeed a problem. We also don’t have the Defense, at least historically, to beat teams when it matters with ball control. This concept requires having a Defense that can hold an opposing QB below 30 in high leverage games. Also, Brady made mention of us only getting 8 drives per game. The Offense is cognizant of the games being shortened and that surely leads to Allen pressing. Instead of all this soul searching and wanting Allen to be Brock Purdy, maybe we can just get him a WR… I know, crazy concept.

WGR AM show brought up an interesting point yesterday...historically thrwoing the long ball (touch, loft, accuracy) has not been one of Josh strenghts...a point I have made over the years as well..partly his fault, partly the WR issue...resulting the OC play-calling not having confidence in that play and talking himself out of it ??? flame on...

I think that story is made up but I still wouldn’t be surprised. The guy is weird and definitely has some skeletons in his closet. it is a figure of speech but he may have literal skeletons in his closet

I still think he’s just smarter about taking hits in the regular season tbh. If he’s got a lane to get a decent chunk of yardage and slide he’ll take it. Or if the game is going poorly and we’re in danger of losing. Our two losses he had 6 carries for 42 yds and 9 carries for 53 yds.. average of those two is 47.5 rushing yards per game and a whole season of that is over 800 rushing yards. Even with this new philosophy of minimizing injury risk he’s still on pace for his average season rushing yardage total

No, Jim. We indeed have a receiver problem. No one can get open, which also forces us to turn to the run. I fear that soon that will lead to a RB problem because Cook is taking a lot of hits and we have no capable RB behind him to take some of the early season wear and tear off. We are one dimensional with the most gifted QB on Earth. It's like taking the tires off a Ferrari and replacing them with sandbags.

Just a few minutes back, it was all about the bad Republicans wanting to starve people. Now it’s “true. will be interesting to see how it plays out”. At least you are measured and rational. Good God.