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I couldn't find a clip, but my wife insists that at some point Hailee was crying and Josh appeared visibly frustrated as he tried to console her. Anyone else see this, or is my wife the crazy one?

Kirby, it’s been out in plain site for years. And it isn’t just at receiver. Beane fills the roster with bargain basement signings en masse and hopes he will hit on a few. He has gotten lucky a few times but mostly not. All the old ad nauseum discussions come into play. Is it Josh lifting everyone up?, is the coaching actually not that bad? Are the margins just that close between good and bad teams? In the end, for me, you are what your record says you are. It hasn’t worked and IMO it won’t work going forward.

Should we send Hunter a Dion Dawkins signed copy of the Hallmark Movie "Holiday Touchdown: A Bills Love Story"?

Why would I care what someone does in their free time? We had that and went to 4 straight super bowls but never raised a Lombardi. If only they decided to party after the superbowl instead of the night before.

I'm sick and tired of getting retreads, injured guys, guys that "show promise" because of the lack of investment Beane has given the wide receiver room. Just like the team went all in to acquire pieces and use those pieces to move up the draft to get Allen, I want them to do the same for a WR #1. So, no to Aiyuk, because that spot can be taken by a bonified WT #1. No more excuses, no more b.s., no more bargain bin shopping, Beane get us a real, credible, legit WR#1, like you when we acquired Diggs. The End.

Just use a lottery like every other North American sport where the draft counts.

As proof to your comment, his self written autobiography is titled "They Called Me Dirty" And it was a very good read.

Agree. The Browns tanked once the year they ended up taking Garrett. They weren't trying to tank the next year they were just so bad they go Baker anyway. The last few years we have had the Browns (Garrett and Baker), the Jags (Lawrence and Walker) and now likely the Titans (Ward and ??) end up with back to back #1 picks. It is no guarantee at all that you get good. That uncertainty lf the draf and the physicality of the game (meaning it is really hard to tell guys putting their bodies on the line not to try) means that intentional full tanks are rare and I don't see it increasing any time soon.

Can anyone discuss how much he would cost? Is it even feasible?

You know what’s weird about the arrogance part? It just dawned on me that over the last few years the Bills have loaded up on former top 77 picks that failed everywhere. Lol, they believed that “if Andy Isabella comes here he will excel because we know best.” Looking over the last few years (in parenthesis is their draft slot): Cooper (4), Samuel (40), Moore (34), Coleman (33), Palmer (77), Hamler (46), Isabella (62), and Chase Claypool (49). With the exception of Cooper none of these guys were ever good. Now, I’m not going to be a hypocrite and fault them for taking a shot on guys that were highly thought of. I always scream for that. At the same time, there had to be a balance of, “this guy has been solid for a while” (Darnell Mooney types) to go along with Isabella, Hamler, Claypool, Coleman, etc…

Thanks for sharing this. “Republicans against TRUMP” is based in Austria. Fun.

So you don’t think that this “insatiable greed” has anything to do with the wildly increasing player salaries?

I don’t find tanking to be as egregious in football as it is in other sports. Really don’t understand the need to reinvent the wheel here. The Titans deserve the #1 pick because they are garbage.

Anyone who watches football and thinks Elam has been better than any of the Bills CBs this year is bananas. The Bills pass D is actually ok, relatively speaking. It’s the run D that’s the problem. For years, PFF has been penalizing CBs in heavy zone schemes because of the separation numbers. But that is how the D is supposed to be run.

He was not well out of bounds.

As much as Russini’s idea has merit, they’ll never do it.

"I don't see the spaceship, either!!" I don't know if this is Rochesterfan: or this is:

🎯 It all boils down to this for the left: 1. White people are bad. That said, @ryangrim, the post isn’t about the validity, to whatever degree, of the things Ken Burns decided to include in the opening of the documentary. It’s about propaganda, which is always built around lies, half truths and truth, all carefully interwoven to create a narrative. Propaganda works by controlling the lens through which we see things. And for Ken Burns to frame the American Revolution in this way, right from the start, sets the stage for how the viewer interprets everything that comes after. So for example, the smallest amount of truth, like “the Iroquois had a confederacy” morphs into “it was used as a model for America” while leaving out the more important structural influences, including the very system of government used by Britain at the time. Or “Ben Franklin referenced the Iroquois in his writings” becomes “influenced,” while leaving out the far more influential thinkers that had an impact on all the founders. This combination of lies, half truths, truth, along with deliberate omissions, especially at the start of the documentary, are what make this propaganda.

I'd love to see a definitive analysis, but the ones I've seen indicate that both these things are true, but that most of the problems stemming from Brady's schemes and play calling. As many here have observed, he's predictable, limited, slow to adapt, late getting plays in, has not adapted his offense to the receivers he has, and lacks innovation, creativity, and vision. In short, he's just not a good coordinator. I'm encouraged that McDermott fired Dorsey, so maybe he will pull the trigger on this guy. Who would replace him, though? I really doubt he would bring back Daboll. Kromer might be the answer. He was terrific his first year with the Bears, setting franchise records for yards and touchdowns. I don't see how he could be worse than Brady.

If you’re tanking with a QB like Josh, you don’t deserve his services lol If he’s injured and out for the season, sure. Go ahead.

The missed extra point really burns my buns.

From Diana Russini in The Athletic today. Thoughts on this idea? I confess to really liking it! But I realize it’s unlikely to happen. https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/6828031/2025/11/22/nfl-rumors-news-joe-burrow-brandon-aiyuk-shedeur-sanders/ ‘And finally, save some room on your Thanksgiving table for a special Wednesday edition of the column. With luck, it will give you some good NFL chatter to discuss with those cousins you see once a year. Here’s a safe debate topic that doesn’t involve politics: Would the NFL ever implement a minimum number of wins a team must reach to keep its first-round draft pick? My friends over at “Pardon My Take” were using their weird but brilliantly wired brains to dream up ways to prevent tanking in the NFL, and I’ll admit it — Big Cat and PFT Commenter might actually be onto something. If a rule like this ever passed, some of Sunday’s Week 18 slate would instantly become must-watch TV for teams outside the playoff picture, scrambling for that final win to retain a top-three pick. Think of it as an unorthodox, chaotic, American spin on relegation in global soccer. So, of course, I had to ask around the league. Here’s what I heard, via text: • “Wowwwwwwwww. I love that. No tanking!” — AFC executive • “They won’t do that. They should.” — NFL owner • “Zero chance that ever happens. The league loves parity.” — NFC team president • “December would be nuts. We’d be starting injured veterans just to scrape out a third win, so we don’t lose our shot at a franchise QB.” — NFC head coach • “You think coaches get fired fast now? Imagine if this became a thing?” — Super Bowl-winning veteran And from a GM who said such a plan would have no shot: “Just because you get the first pick doesn’t mean you’ll get it right,” he argued. “Put a team out there that competes and let the chips fall. The Mavericks had like a .1% chance of getting the first pick and ended up with (Cooper) Flagg.”’

That Madden video in other threads suggest that we currently only run 5 offensive plays in any case, no problemo, arise OC Josh Allen. Brady demoted to waterboy.

in hindsight, this is likely correct.

As others have said, losing to the Texans on a short week with their top ranked menacing defense, was not a shock or reason to hang heads. It was losing to the Falcons and Dolphins that made it way worse to stomach.