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Yeah but if Tom Brady was drafted by the Detroit Lions also not Tom Brady That's why good coaching could make somebody who's decent look good.. good look really good.. and make someone who's really good great Bad coaching will take someone who's good and make them look average There is zero world where if Tom Brady was drafted by plenty of teams he's anything close to getting developed by Bill belichick for 15 years Even Patrick mahomes is regressing right now.. just because you are really really good doesn't mean it's guaranteed forever In the NFL if you're not progressing you are regressing I have always said that.. Josh Allen's been steadily going up still to this day Patrick Mahoney's been slowly going down And Pat still has great coaching.. if Patrick mahomes got drafted by the Chicago bears he's not anything close to what he was.. not close To say situation doesn't matter is akin to saying coaches don't matter in the NFL.. players can train themselves players can coach themselves... Because nobody helps them and it's all them Tom Brady going to the Buffalo Bills is not changing the course of our history.. that skinny kid in 1999 who had the best defensive coordinator in the world shut down the greatest show on turf would not help the Buffalo Bills

That is my plan! The 2nd bet I don't know if I want to add the Ty Johnson anytime TD for bigger payout, or play it a bit conservative on that one. I just gotta feeling about Ty getting in the end one, but that also could be the McDonald's I ate Third bet, odds are the same between Coleman anytime TD and Kincaid anytime TD. Leaning Coleman because the guns DBs suck

I literally spit my beverage out when I read this.

A large part of it is the longevity. M Allen played forever, especially for a RB. Seriously, solid TD production every year he was healthy for 15-16 years in the league. The guy scored 11 tds when he was 37! Just nuts. Imagine D Henry keeping it going for another 5-6 years. 🤯

The league knew he was contracted with Fox when they voted unanimously to approve his partial buy-in of the Raiders. If they didn't like it, that would probably have been the right time to do something about it.

Dude, my dog is in from out of town and my mother-in-law crap on the rug.

Why don't you just bet $10 on each one..........at least one of them will pay out.

Tom making Brady haters heads explode like only he can do.

Can you do us all a favor and not post anything from this scumbag? Thanks!

Well, you better get on your knees and start praying for the defense to get and stay healthy; especially Bosa, Ed, and Groot. Without those three guys performing at a high level McD or Babbich will be trying to manufacture pressure in high leverage moments.

This is not something I care even a little bit about. If teams are concerned, they can control what information they present to him when he is in his role as a broadcaster. If they are dumb enough to give him information that would help the Raiders, that's on them.

Dems have got it going on!

This is a valid point and my concern

I doubt he is getting much out of the production meetings. “What’s the plan this week? “ “we want to establish the run and convert 3rd downs.” The biggest advantage he has is getting to interview potential coaches or players to joining the raiders. It can be under the guise of a production meetings, but he has access to coaches and players like no other team has

Yeah, I agree. I don't think those guys are playing because McDermott has a different philosophy. If they weren't developing through training camp, Beane would have been active picking up guys as they got cut elsewhere. They could have thrown Phillips in there Sunday, if they thought someone wasn't ready, but that didn't happen. Still, there's no question that getting the playing time is a great opportunity to continue their NFL educations. It means they should know what they're doing when the second half of the season comes around. I feel the same way about Bishop. He's not playing because of an injury, but if he weren't minimally competent he would be playing. It could have been Hamlin or even Poyer. But since he's at least decent the playing time is a great way to get him up the learning curve and ready for the second half. And it was great that Dorian Strong got the time he did against the Ravens, and now he's getting more spot time. All those guys getting playing time is good for the games to come.

No apology needed. Maps aren't a big deal. I am glad you are doing the announcers thread, which you are doing great! You're passionate about this.

I mean you're not wrong but this is part of JA and his game, he's a gamer and is gonna play tough no matter what

Figured I'd start a thread for those of us that love to wager on the games Here's the bets I'm thinking about for Thursday vs Dolphins Palmer over 33.5 yards Kincaid over 30.5 yards Coleman over 41.5 yards +600. $10 pays $70 Allen over 1.5 TDs Palmer TD Palmer over 34.5 Ty Johnson over 12.5 yards rushing Allen over 234.5 yards passing +1100 $10 pays $120 If we add ty Johnson anytime TD +5000 $10 pays $510 Kincaid over 29.5 yards Cook over 11.5 receiving yards Boss over 0.5 sacks Knox anytime TD Coleman anytime TD +7500. $10 pays $760 On this one, I can change Coleman and Kincaid and the odds remain the same for anytime TD I'm debating on my second bet if I want to add that ty Johnson anytime And on the third bet, I'm debating on Coleman or Kincaid. Leaning Coleman cause the final DBs are trash 1st bet I feel really good about Thoughts? What's your bills SGP? Or what about NFL bets in general this weekend?

Tom Brady is a known cheat who exploits the rules for his favor. Why wouldn't that bleed into his post-quarterback career? It's an obvious conflict of interest to be an owner of a team and a broadcaster with access to other NFL teams. He's not even a very good broadcaster.

awaiting heat maps

i've already said it. right now he's better, to answer your specific question that we are clearly talking about.

Jest looking 0-3 squarely in the face.

I think the great quarterbacks will probably be good anywhere I 100% don't agree that Patrick mahomes would be the exact same quarterback in 31 other teams.. if Josh Allen goes to the Jets I think he probably showed flashes and is good but again does not reach his height with the bills because of our organization being top-notch Same with Tom Brady If Tom Brady goes to the lions or browns at 22 I don't think he's anything close to the same player I think they could all be really good.. but I find it highly highly unlikely that Brady gets 7 rings if he doesn't start off his career with belichick I don't think mahomes has three super bowls if he doesn't start with Andy Reid The Buffalo Bills organization 100% has been a calming growing influence on Josh.. literally every single 22-year-old kid has a chance to be a bust.. it's not fair to coaching staffs to say they don't have an influence which is why they're around... To think Josh Allen would be an MVP if he was drafted by the Jets , it's not happening I think his career is much more Sam darnold trajectory then Patrick mahomes is regressing from what he was and he still has great coaching.. so it shows that even someone who is considered great can even start losing itba bit... Even with tremendous coaching...Kurt Warner was great with the Rams Didn't play good for years until he got to the Cardinals There's a lot of things with quarterbacks going on and to think every truly great quarterback.. could be as just as good in any situation I don't believe that Players would be coaching themselves and calling plays themselves if they didn't need people to help them develop... Josh Allen has been getting developed by the Buffalo Bills extremely well and the entire football world agrees with that Joe burrow certainly can be a lot less effective in a lot of other places just look at him now he already struggles to stay on the field... If he was in Chicago his career wouldn't be nearly as close and it still falling apart Situation matters For the elite quarterbacks to even reach that elite status they need to be in the right place with the right staff... Sure once you reach elite status it's hard to lose it because they knew what it took to get there But I don't think Patrick mahomes becomes elite Patrick mahomes if he's on the Chicago bears ... I don't believe that at all

I never thought Micah wasn’t athletic and I’m only basing it on their comparable RAS numbers. But the similarities in their career arcs is interesting imo. Both played multiple DB positions in college, both 5th round picks, both asked to play nickel initially as pros while many projected Hyde as an eventual safety and are now doing with Hancock. I’m looking forward to his evolution as a pro.