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There isn't a drop in receiving talent surrounding Allen relative to last year. If anything, it was better when factoring in a relatively healthy Kincaid up until now.

Thanks. This is the perfect illustration of the variability in the performance of even the most elite players. The drop from 3 to 7 is likely a direct result of a drop in the receiving talent surrounding Allen.

I'll admit I never heard of him but his stats look good.

Hey I know that battalion! Last time I went to visit the folks in Fla I wanted to stop at Ft. Stewart. I'm gonna make that happen

now I find myself having to use this on multiple threads

Gabe's a career 3 catch a game guy Lets not get crazy w expectations

For what is worth, this is Allen EPA+CPOE ranking by year. CPOE is completion % above expected. I think it's showing what you would expect it to show. Allen is historically a top 3 performer, arguably #1 in 2024 and 2020, but always top 3. This year he's performing more like a 5-10 guy which is pretty significant as far as the difference in those tiers. Obviously his statistics are a product of himself and his environment so that's not to say his value is 5-10. I imagine other QB's would be signifgantly lower ranking with the assets he has, but non the less the stats are the stats. We are getting 5-10 type output.

Again, Allen didn't play great in those games and the Bills roster apparently can't win a game where Allen isn't great. Good thing for the Eagles that on a night their elite QB was misfiring through the first 3 quarters they had enough around him to eke out a win on the road against the Packers.

He got hurt so we'll never know will we. But 2 catches for 60 yards on 2 targets in the 1st quarter before he was hurt suggested Palmer was on his way to having a big game.

Allen has played poorly in several games this year, including Atl, NE, and Mia - all losses.

Remember the games when punting rarely happened. 3rd and 15 was no big deal.

The posts would be become very tedious if I front and back loaded my comments with lots of "In my opinion" & "maybe" & "I don't have any inside knowledge but it's possible that"........................

Why did Dems block this?

And I can quote a much longer list where Allen has had exceptional plays this season. But what's the point? And for the record I took your Allen is "playing poorly" comment to be for the whole season not just the Miami game. BTW, which QB this season hasn't had a couple of clunkers? Again, Allen is on pace for a 4700 total yards; 41 total TD's with only 13 total TO's. That's a solid season and not a string of 4 yard pass completions. It is almost universally believed that Mahomes has been the best QB over the last 8 years. At the same time he has barely been a top 10 QB in a couple of those seasons.

In the 2025 season thru 10 games, they are exactly that. You can bring up the schedule this and schedule that all you want it's irrelevent, and you likely don't comprehend how hard it is to win games in the NFL, even harder to win on the road. You just literally went to Miami and got cooked, was supposed to be an "easy win" You play who they say you play and that's all their is to it Bad teams don't go on the road and beat teams like buffalo or Tampa bay. And if MV and JM aren't there they aren't anywhere near 8-2, not even close.

Joe Ferguson has never heard of the court of public opinion. People still think Alan Dershowitz was a pedo because he was linked by Virginia Giuffre before she was discredited. If Trump, or anyone for that matter, is shown to have done something illegal in these files, it should be brought to light. Fine by me. I’d much rather JD Vance lead this country. Why hasn’t it been? Because just like the Biden Admin, the Trump Admin is trying to sit on it because there’s likely no smoking guns (especially re: Trump, or we would know) and a lot of people who may have done nothing wrong will be implicated by association.

It's really sad to look back on. That was the year. Everything had fallen into place. They were peaking at the right time. All lost because our coaching staff didn’t understand that a touchback doesn't run any time off the clock. Or that a team with three timeouts doesn't need to use the sidelines. I will go to my grave believing that McDermott knowingly ceded a field goal attempt because he preferred that to risking a long pass to Hill. It's just disgusting to think about the overall incompetence and cowardice.

Nothing matters because trump is safe as long as the dems have no centrist alternative.

there isn’t really anyone to promote this time. If change happens it will be end of season most likely. Don’t forget that this is actually the offensive style McD has wanted since he got here. I think people forget how bad Mahomes has looked with a bad supporting cast too.

You're supposed to be anonymous Mr. Cooter.

If we need him to always play like a top 3 guy to win then Bean/McD have failed to construct the right roster. When people say Allen is a top 3 QB it doesn't mean that in every game and in every season he will be a top 3 guy. That ignores the reality that there is variation in every human performance. What being a top 3 QB means is that over time and in Allen's case the last 6 seasons including this one, Allen has AVERAGED out to be a top 3 QB. Last season he was #1 this season he may end up at 6 or 7.

I haven't read most of the posts in this thread and apologize if this has been already posted. Josh has the same look and demeanor in both the games and post game interviews where he has recently struggled that he did in the final days of Dorsey's tenure. Time for a change.