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It's funny how Kelly turned into Mr. Buffalo. I remember the 83 draft and he didn't want to come here and then went to the USFL's Houston Gamblers. But when that league folded, Kelly came here in 86 and the rest is history as they say.

If so, that grey is better than the mock-up shown. But it reminds me of a Raiders or Detroit uniform No soup for you!

For the most part, judging GMs by their misses is a poor method of evaluation. They should be judged by their hits. Beane missed on Elam but hit on Benford. If it had been the other way around, nobody would even care.

Why are these Beyond the Blue & Red videos so much better than the Hard Knocks episodes? Great vid. I really think this is exactly what people want, getting to know the players they watch on Sundays.

I mean I don't have a list but there are a fair few of them that do... Kelly, Thomas, Nixon , Tasker come to mind...

Now you're getting it! Locker door material!

I think it started when they delisted it as a mental illness. I mean, if you want to eschew gender norms that are effectively a societal construct, fine. You do you and I won't judge. When that crosses a line into denying your biology (edge cases like hermaphrodites notwithstanding) then it transitions (😂 no pun intended) into mental illness. It's no different than the people who think their foot feels weird and have it purposely amputated.

They were a good group when Diggs was here, but now they are truly Allen's team. The absence of Diggs' energy from the locker room seems palpable... in a good way.

I know who you didn't vote for!

Just curious. How many retired Bills players live in Buffalo area?

Personally... I thing liberal men get off men hitting and hurting women as long as that man wears a dress...

Gotcha by 2 secs lol

If these are it…I’m in!

new uni here This is the n

I go to a restaurant because I want to eat a meal I go to a bar for a drink and entertainment If I went to a whorehouse, I’d expect to get some I watch my football team because I want to see them win it all. Is it possible to watch and enjoy regular season games and still be disappointed at losing in playoffs? Yes Is it ignorant to call such people ignorant? No. It is stupid and small minded😘

If they were going to do grey I kind of wish they’d have made a grey jersey and pants. Don’t really like the grey parts of the logo but it’s not horrible

Boring if true

Sahlens hot dogs are so overrated.

Well it depends on who you ask. If you ask the Roundy types they'll tell you that people who identify as trans are being identified for eventual concentration camp incarceration and elimination. Trans genocide. If you ask people who still live under a blue sky they are saying that seven year old kids should not be indoctrinated into the trans ideology in school and that trans "women" not be permitted to participate in women's sports. These people will also point out that trans "men" participating in men's sports doesn't seem to be a thing in the trans movement at all. Weird. Now comes the part where the Roundy types respond to this post full of acknowledgement that people who say they are trans do indeed exist is evidence of my denial of the existence of trans identifying people.

You act like he had all day to just lob a pass to Kincaid. He was under pressure that whole snap.

I really like McD. this thread was not intended to trash him or the Bills really. moreso it was to contextualize the Bills playoff success/failure in regards to rule changes. Ultimately, I think there’s an argument that under the old rules we may have less overall playoff wins, but with the bye, have gone further or even won a Super Bowl by now. There’s a certain irony that the rules allowing an expanded playoff field and loss of bye is a disadvantage that only came after the Bills probably could’ve benefitted greatly from during the drought. But that’s a different topic.

Andy Reid also “snubbed”

This is the rumored design. We will know for sure in about 40 mins. This would harken back to the first year colors which would be interesting and kinda cool. I would be ok with this as a one-off

Given they went 13-4 in a season that seemed like at least a reset, and it's hard not to believe they quietly had a season of improvement, I'm optimistic... Optimism: - Coleman and Kincaid more likely to improve than regress and Kincaid's second season was just weird - One of the best O-lines in football (and perfectly paired with Allen) and they quietly have a lot of great depth - Thoughtfully paired WR room: Shakir (high YAC, catches everything), Coleman (Contested catch dude), Palmer (separation), Moore/Samuel (speed), Shavers (big, reliable target) - D-line very promising: Sanders and Walker look great, Jackson might be slower to start, Bosa looked like dominant self in small flashes, additions should push Rousseau and Oliver to another level, Solomon could be a secret stud (or could be gone week 7), Hoecht has looked amazing and his swiss army knife-ness could change the whole defensive dynamic - On that note, Rousseau is poised for a breakout - Sneakily strong and deep LB room: we've never seen Milano/Bernard together for long stretch and Milano looked great in pre-season, Williams could be a future solid starter, Thompson is a former solid starter and Andreessen plays with fire in games making for some impressive depth. And Jenkins and Ciarlo on PS even looked great. - Christian Benford just keeps getting better and better and may jump to all-pro level (if not already there... a lot of his metrics were off the charts) - Jackson Hawes could add to both the run and pass game with his blocking ability - ST coverage plus Codrington on returns led by well-respected new ST coach could be huge, especially with this year's changes. - Babich's plans could take flight in year 2 - Oh, right, that guy wearing 17 is likely to still be pretty damn good Pessimism: - Secondary Beyond Benford: I feel confident about Tre's return, but he is 30 coming off multiple injuries, we don't know Hairston's NFL career and even if he comes back it could be a lost season, Taron had a relatively down year so is it just an anomaly, Rapp is a great tackler, but can he stay healthy, Bishop's a question mark, Hamlin is overly maligned here, but would prefer he not have to start... - Babich could just be a bad defensive coach - Kicking game is a question mark: Bass looks like he's out of his yipsy phase, but still has too many bad moments. Robbins was the worst punter in his one healthy season - Maybe Allen and Kincaid just have zero on-field chemistry - Can O-line stay incredibly healthy for THREE seasons and depth, while promising, has very little experience - Injuries can happen at any time and if we're talking Super Bowl, as much as we want to say "Super Bowl or Bust," Dion is right... 31/32 teams go home sad. You can have an amazing team and one bad day or just bad luck (i.e. a delayed wild card game meaning two days fewer rest combined with the entire middle of defense hurt against the best QB/TE combo in the game)... or as great as your team is, one other team could just be better