zow2 Posted October 27, 2009 Share Posted October 27, 2009 This guy has been so mentally frazzled this year. Similar problems as Trent but not even as accurate. Now he just gets a pick six. If he can't pull it together tonight, this could be the last time we see Campbell as a starter for a while. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rubes Posted October 27, 2009 Share Posted October 27, 2009 This guy has been so mentally frazzled this year. Similar problems as Trent but not even as accurate. Now he just gets a pick six. If he can't pull it together tonight, this could be the last time we see Campbell as a starter for a while. I'm not sure he ever should have been a starter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No QB - No Bueno Posted October 27, 2009 Share Posted October 27, 2009 I've never understood the Skins' infatuation with the guy. Marginal NFLer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerball Posted October 27, 2009 Share Posted October 27, 2009 I've never understood the Skins' infatuation with the guy. Marginal NFLer. Pot meet kettle. Once you get 'em you're kind of stuck with them for a time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No QB - No Bueno Posted October 27, 2009 Share Posted October 27, 2009 Pot meet kettle. Once you get 'em you're kind of stuck with them for a time. Touche! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Posted October 27, 2009 Share Posted October 27, 2009 I think he has some talent. I have no idea whether he will develop into the kind of QB that they wanted when they drafted him. I actually feel sorry for the guy given the number of offensive coordinators he has been through in college and the NFL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geno Smith's Arm Posted October 27, 2009 Share Posted October 27, 2009 This guy has been so mentally frazzled this year. Similar problems as Trent but not even as accurate. Now he just gets a pick six. If he can't pull it together tonight, this could be the last time we see Campbell as a starter for a while. The problemis they both suck. Lots of QB's have sucked through the years. We can talk concussions, bad coaching, mental problems etc, but really they just aren't good enough to win consistently. At all times in the league history, ther have been anywhere from 10 to 15 guys that are good enough, and the rest of the teams are still waiting/looking. The Bills (forget the AFL) have really only had ONE top notch QB ever. The rest of the time we have been searching. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted October 27, 2009 Share Posted October 27, 2009 Let me be the first to post that we should trade Roscoe and a draft pick and get him here. Git'er dun, Russ! PTR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan-4-Ever Posted October 27, 2009 Share Posted October 27, 2009 This guy has been so mentally frazzled this year. Similar problems as Trent but not even as accurate. Now he just gets a pick six. If he can't pull it together tonight, this could be the last time we see Campbell as a starter for a while. The Skins are in termoil. Like the Bills they have an inept owner, yet the Bills still support their team mates and coaches. Today everybody's pointing fingers from top to bottom. If you think being a Bills fan is bad... Picture the current Redskins or any winless team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
8-8 Forever? Posted October 27, 2009 Share Posted October 27, 2009 The Skins are in termoil. Like the Bills they have an inept owner, yet the Bills still support their team mates and coaches. Today everybody's pointing fingers from top to bottom. If you think being a Bills fan is bad... Picture the current Redskins or any winless team. Trust me. Being a Bills fan is bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsGuyInMalta Posted October 27, 2009 Share Posted October 27, 2009 Trust me. Being a Bills fan is bad. Things won't change in Washington until they change owners. And unfortunately for Skins fans, Snyder has a portrait in his attic that is constantly getting older. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zow2 Posted October 27, 2009 Author Share Posted October 27, 2009 For all the critisicm he takes (and it's warranted)...Snyder wants to win as badly as any hardcore Redskins fan. That's his problem. He's like a superfan that runs the team and gets too involved. They throw $100M to get the best F/A D-lineman who only plays 1/2 the snaps because he so fat and out of shape. That's a bad move. They need to get rid of Vinny Cerrato, hire a real GM and coach.... and Danny boy needs to step back and watch. I'm sure he will pay a kings ransom for Gruden, Shannahan or some other well known coach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan74 Posted October 27, 2009 Share Posted October 27, 2009 I've never understood the Skins' infatuation with the guy. Marginal NFLer. Strong arm can make all of the throws; problem no protection, no confidence, no consistent running game, awful ever changing coaching staff...not sure he is a total bust. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
todd Posted October 27, 2009 Share Posted October 27, 2009 This guy has been so mentally frazzled this year. Similar problems as Trent but not even as accurate. Now he just gets a pick six. If he can't pull it together tonight, this could be the last time we see Campbell as a starter for a while. With Dockery and Williams protecting him, what did you expect? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fewell733 Posted October 27, 2009 Share Posted October 27, 2009 the first thing Campbell has to do to reclaim his career is to learn to STOP FUMBLING. The guy fumbles every time he's breathed on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted October 27, 2009 Share Posted October 27, 2009 The Skins are in termoil. Like the Bills they have an inept owner, yet the Bills still support their team mates and coaches. Today everybody's pointing fingers from top to bottom. If you think being a Bills fan is bad... Picture the current Redskins or any winless team. They have different expectations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted October 27, 2009 Share Posted October 27, 2009 Campbell has a strong arm, but is inconsistent with his accuracy, especially on deep passes. In his defense, he has suffered through just about the same mess in Washington as our QB's here in Buffalo. He's had Cooley and Moss for targets and that's about it. Not to mention going through learning 3 different playbooks in the NFL. I think the guy is a career backup, if that, once his tenure is done in DC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongLiveRalph Posted October 27, 2009 Share Posted October 27, 2009 The SEC, top to bottom, is the best NCAA conference. But my major issue with the conference over the past 5-6 years (more or less) has been the lack of impact QB's. Sure the defenses in the conference are huge, fast, and supremely athletic, but I always wondered if some of the "greatness" of the defenses also had something to do with the overall lack of good quarterbacking. Granted, I understand college is a different game, and a great college QB doesn't necessarily translate to the NFL. But, just a snapshot of some of the recents: BAD: JaMarcus Russell (LSU)- one of the worst in the league Jason Campbell (Auburn)- terrible. Thank you Ronnie Brown and Cadillac for making me look good Brodie Croyle (Alabama)- a signature "just doesn't have it" guy Rex Grossman (Florida)- did enough to get to a Super Bowl but never took a starter's job and excelled David Greene (UGA)- 3-yr college starter, 3rd rd pick, never appeared in an NFL game for 4 different teams, retired Casey Clausen (UT)- pretty good in college, has all the tools, just never amounted to anything JURY STILL OUT: Matthew Stafford (UGA)- made some promising starts along with to-be-expected rookie struggles Jay Cutler (Vandy)- big arm, big stats...Leader? Winner? Has top-10 QB potential SUCCESS STORIES: Payton Manning (UT)- best in the game for 10 years. Makes everyone better, consistent performer and winner Eli Manning (Ole Miss)- can argue his consistency and accuracy. Can't argue his wins, comebacks, and Super Bowl ring. Who else is there? I must be forgetting a few... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zow2 Posted October 27, 2009 Author Share Posted October 27, 2009 The SEC, top to bottom, is the best NCAA conference. But my major issue with the conference over the past 5-6 years (more or less) has been the lack of impact QB's. Sure the defenses in the conference are huge, fast, and supremely athletic, but I always wondered if some of the "greatness" of the defenses also had something to do with the overall lack of good quarterbacking. Granted, I understand college is a different game, and a great college QB doesn't necessarily translate to the NFL. But, just a snapshot of some of the recents: BAD: JaMarcus Russell (LSU)- one of the worst in the league Jason Campbell (Auburn)- terrible. Thank you Ronnie Brown and Cadillac for making me look good Brodie Croyle (Alabama)- a signature "just doesn't have it" guy Rex Grossman (Florida)- did enough to get to a Super Bowl but never took a starter's job and excelled David Greene (UGA)- 3-yr college starter, 3rd rd pick, never appeared in an NFL game for 4 different teams, retired Casey Clausen (UT)- pretty good in college, has all the tools, just never amounted to anything JURY STILL OUT: Matthew Stafford (UGA)- made some promising starts along with to-be-expected rookie struggles Jay Cutler (Vandy)- big arm, big stats...Leader? Winner? Has top-10 QB potential SUCCESS STORIES: Payton Manning (UT)- best in the game for 10 years. Makes everyone better, consistent performer and winner Eli Manning (Ole Miss)- can argue his consistency and accuracy. Can't argue his wins, comebacks, and Super Bowl ring. Who else is there? I must be forgetting a few... I like your observations. It's just really difficult to tell if the SEC QB failure/success rate is vastly different from any other Division 1 conference? The Big Ten has some really good QB's and some failures, so does the Pac-10. I think we just expect so much more out of SEC QB's because they are on national tv every week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongLiveRalph Posted October 27, 2009 Share Posted October 27, 2009 I like your observations. It's just really difficult to tell if the SEC QB failure/success rate is vastly different from any other Division 1 conference? The Big Ten has some really good QB's and some failures, so does the Pac-10. I think we just expect so much more out of SEC QB's because they are on national tv every week. Not sure about success vs. failure...But these are the guys starting in the NFL today, by college conference. What's pretty crazy, not ONE starter from a Big 12 school. The Bucs may start rookie Josh Freeman out of Kansas State coming off the bye week, but right now it's Josh Johnson. The breakdown: BIG TEN: Drew Brees (Purdue) Tom Brady (Michigan) Kyle Orton (Purdue) Kerry Collins (Penn St.) Chad Henne (Michigan) ACC: Matt Schaub (Virginia) Phillip Rivers (NC State) Matt Ryan (BC) Matt Hassellbeck (BC) played there in Big East Shaun Hill (Maryland) PAC 10: Mark Sanchez (USC) Aaron Rodgers (Cal) Derek Anderson (Oregon St) Trent Edwards (Stanford) Carson Palmer (USC) Matt Cassell (USC) BIG EAST: Donovan McNabb (Syracuse) Mark Bulger (WVU) SEC: Eli Manning (Ole Miss) Peyton Manning (Tennessee) JaMarcus Russell (LSU) Matthew Stafford (UGA) Jay Cutler (Vanderbilt) Jason Campbell (Auburn) OTHER SCHOOLS: Brett Favre (Southern Missisippi) Tony Romo (E. Illinois) Kurt Warner (N. Iowa) David Gerrard (East Carolina) Joe Flacco (Delaware) Jake Delhomme (Louisiana Lafayette) Ben Roethlisberger (Miami, OH) Josh Johnson (San Diego) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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