damj Posted October 14, 2009 Share Posted October 14, 2009 I am the Walrus. Goo goo g' joob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerry Christ Posted October 14, 2009 Share Posted October 14, 2009 I am the Walrus. shut up donnie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan-4-Ever Posted October 14, 2009 Share Posted October 14, 2009 I heard a RUMOR that Danny Snyder is interested in Chucky as his next Head Coach Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davefan66 Posted October 14, 2009 Share Posted October 14, 2009 I believe Seattle made their Super Bowl breakthrough after Tim Ruskell took over the GM duties from Bob Whitsitt who I believe was basically a Holmgren puppet while he was GM. Once Ruskell took over the reins and Holmgren focused on coaching the Seahawks were able to get to the Super Bowl (where they were somewhat robbed by poor officiating in losing to the Steelers). If Holmgren took over football operations, I wonder who he would name as his general manager. I don't know when, but he was relieved of the GM duties in the last years with Seattle. Based on that, I don't know if I would want him to be GM IF he came to Buffalo. Honestly, I'm not sure I would want my HC to be GM. On the flip side, he does well with QB's - Favre and Hasselback, so that would be a plus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted October 14, 2009 Share Posted October 14, 2009 I don't know when, but he was relieved of the GM duties in the last years with Seattle.Based on that, I don't know if I would want him to be GM IF he came to Buffalo. Honestly, I'm not sure I would want my HC to be GM. On the flip side, he does well with QB's - Favre and Hasselback, so that would be a plus. Correct - Ruskell took over the personnel decisions and that's when the team improved. Holmgren was a total failure when it came to evaluating talent. Also you know it's a bad sign when the OP uses the UK spelling of "rumor." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LA Bills Posted October 14, 2009 Share Posted October 14, 2009 Quote:as it was discussed this morning on J.T. the Brick’s radio show that there are rumors in Buffalo that Mike Holmgren could receive total control of the Bills if he decided to take over the Bills. http://hardknoxsports.com/nfl/buffal...olmgren-bills/ He is not my top pick but how can it not be an upgrade over Skeletor. Holmgren has proved he could win, which is another bonus What the heck is JT's Brick radio show? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanInSouthBuffalo Posted October 14, 2009 Share Posted October 14, 2009 Holmgren was a total failure when it came to evaluating talent. And so was Shanahan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
damj Posted October 14, 2009 Share Posted October 14, 2009 Holmgren was a total failure when it came to evaluating talent. He'll fit it quite well with the Bills Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pBills Posted October 14, 2009 Share Posted October 14, 2009 Holmgren is a proven winner. He knows who to hire and fire for his staff. Something the Bills need big time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloWings Posted October 14, 2009 Share Posted October 14, 2009 Correct - Ruskell took over the personnel decisions and that's when the team improved. Holmgren was a total failure when it came to evaluating talent. Also you know it's a bad sign when the OP uses the UK spelling of "rumor." I've seen a number of cases where a team underachieved when the coach was also the GM. When you're the GM, you're responsible for watching over the cap, negotiating with players/agents, and overseeing the scouting. Add all of that to the actual Xs and Os of being a coach and your time is limited. That can easily bog down the team and what they do on the field, which is why I don't like a coach being a GM. That said, it might be exactly what the Bills need right now from someone like Holmgren. They'd have a GM who has been around the league, has good contacts, and knows people that can run a team well. He can probably even bring in a few players that played for him and also know how to win. They would also have a coach with experience - someone who has won the Superbowl and been there two other times. I don't know how true this rumor is or if it's even plausible, but this would be a perfect situation for Holmgren to come into. It's just a matter of whether or not Ralph is willing to give up the control like he did to Donahoe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marv's Neighbor Posted October 14, 2009 Share Posted October 14, 2009 Having lived in Seattle for most of the time he was there, I am unimpressed. First of all he went to Seattle because they offered him the Head Coach AND GM spots. While that may appaeal to some, it was totally unsuccessful. Holmgren couldn't do both, and it showed. Second, He demanded and was paid VERY WELL, when has that ever happened in BUF? he was there when Paul Allen essentially gave him an open check book. Third, he likes to ride his Harley. Even if we accept "Global Warming," Given the WNY weather AND Road Conditions, that's not going to happen very often. It sure didn't in Green Bay! He's a Control Freak on the order of Donohoe and does not have the success to back it up. All things considered, Wade was a better Coach than Holmgren will ever be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pBills Posted October 14, 2009 Share Posted October 14, 2009 From what I have seen he's 161-111 (.592) for his head coaching career. I would like to see that in Buffalo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrags Posted October 14, 2009 Share Posted October 14, 2009 It could happen. The Walrus left Seattle to take a year off. Has said it would take him being GM AND Coach to come back. If he could get that in Buffalo it would be a great setup for him. Small market like Green Bay. Rabid fan base. We're down, he can build us up and be a hero. Likes cold weather football. Ralph is itching to bring a good coach in here and knows he needs a new GM too. Kill 2 birds with one stone. Downside is the Walrus pretty much failed at this in Seattle and had to give up the GM role and be only coach. Seattle suffered though many 8-8, 7-9, and 9-7 seasons before hitting it big in 2005. Maybe he learned something. He's also good at bringing along young QBs. Anyone heard of Brett Favre and Matt Hasselback? Just what the doctor ordered. I say do it. We can only wish for 8-8 and 9-7 seasons. LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WVUFootball29 Posted October 14, 2009 Share Posted October 14, 2009 Having lived in Seattle for most of the time he was there, I am unimpressed. First of all he went to Seattle because they offered him the Head Coach AND GM spots. While that may appaeal to some, it was totally unsuccessful. Holmgren couldn't do both, and it showed. Second, He demanded and was paid VERY WELL, when has that ever happened in BUF? he was there when Paul Allen essentially gave him an open check book. Third, he likes to ride his Harley. Even if we accept "Global Warming," Given the WNY weather AND Road Conditions, that's not going to happen very often. It sure didn't in Green Bay! He's a Control Freak on the order of Donohoe and does not have the success to back it up. All things considered, Wade was a better Coach than Holmgren will ever be. Wade Phillips Career record 61-42-0 (Regular Season) 0–4 (Postseason) 61-46-0 (Overall) Mike Holmgren Career record 157-100-0 (Regular Season) 13-11 (Postseason) 170-111-0 (Overall) Super Bowl wins 1996 Super Bowl XXXI Championships won 2005 NFC Championship 1997 NFC Championship 1996 NFC Championship The Facts suggest otherwise Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magox Posted October 14, 2009 Share Posted October 14, 2009 If only it were true.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Cocktosten Posted October 14, 2009 Share Posted October 14, 2009 That reminds me of a story...So this guy comes running into his house one night, screaming to his wife, "Hey honey, quick...pack your bags....Wife says, "Why? What's goin' on?" Guy says, "Just hurry ...hurry up...hurry up and pack your bags..." Wife says, "Honey, tell me WTF is going on..." Guy shouts, "I just won $10million in the lottery....hurry...pack your bags..." Wife says, "Holy &*%#!, that's great honey, where we goin'? Guy says, "We? WE??? We're not going anywhere...pack your bags and get out!" Oy vey, I slay me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramius Posted October 14, 2009 Share Posted October 14, 2009 Yeah, i'd hate to have a coach that led his team to 5 division titles and 6 playoff appearances (along with a super bowl) in his 10 years there. Someone remind me how we've done in the last 10 years? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted October 14, 2009 Share Posted October 14, 2009 I remember that Holmgren had promised his wife he would retire after a certain number of years with the Seahawks and was dead set on sticking to that promise- so I don't see this happening. Oh, Definitely. I keep every promise I make to my wife. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted October 14, 2009 Share Posted October 14, 2009 I'll take anyone who can lead Seattle to the superbowl I like that--with Hasselback, no less! He must be some sort of Wizard. But it ain't gonna happen this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flbillsfan#1 Posted October 14, 2009 Share Posted October 14, 2009 Having lived in Seattle for most of the time he was there, I am unimpressed. First of all he went to Seattle because they offered him the Head Coach AND GM spots. While that may appaeal to some, it was totally unsuccessful. Holmgren couldn't do both, and it showed. Second, He demanded and was paid VERY WELL, when has that ever happened in BUF? he was there when Paul Allen essentially gave him an open check book. Third, he likes to ride his Harley. Even if we accept "Global Warming," Given the WNY weather AND Road Conditions, that's not going to happen very often. It sure didn't in Green Bay! He's a Control Freak on the order of Donohoe and does not have the success to back it up. All things considered, Wade was a better Coach than Holmgren will ever be. I agree with everything except the Harley. Unless he likes to ride in the rain, he could probably ride more days in Buffalo than Seattle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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