ExiledInIllinois Posted September 16, 2009 Share Posted September 16, 2009 I knew people on my street who definitely paid more attention to their lawns than they did their family. Ya, tell me about it! And then watch how much the lazy lumps pay attention to their driveway/walkway during a snowfall. I guess practicality never plays into things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Posted September 16, 2009 Author Share Posted September 16, 2009 Another thread got me thinking. Since Coach Dick stupidly didn't even bother giving instructions for McKelvin to be sure to bring out anything fielded cleanly, would we be nearly as pissed if somebody had spray-painted cusswords on Jauron's lawn? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted September 16, 2009 Share Posted September 16, 2009 So if somebody did it to your lawn, you'd be pissed. But it's a joke for anybody else to be pissed because it was done to somebody else's lawn? Common sense isn't exactly Dwight's strong suit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramius Posted September 16, 2009 Share Posted September 16, 2009 Common sense isn't exactly Dwight's strong suit. Rational thought and using actual facts isn't either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted September 16, 2009 Share Posted September 16, 2009 Another thread got me thinking. Since Coach Dick stupidly didn't even bother giving instructions for McKelvin to be sure to bring out anything fielded cleanly, would we be nearly as pissed if somebody had spray-painted cusswords on Jauron's lawn? Depends if I deserved the critique or not... If I did, would say: "spray away." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SDS Posted September 16, 2009 Share Posted September 16, 2009 Another thread got me thinking. Since Coach Dick stupidly didn't even bother giving instructions for McKelvin to be sure to bring out anything fielded cleanly, would we be nearly as pissed if somebody had spray-painted cusswords on Jauron's lawn? they should be warned about the nightly turds I leave there... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Posted September 16, 2009 Author Share Posted September 16, 2009 Depends if I deserved the critique or not... If I did, would say: "spray away." Actually I wasn't wondering if you'd be pissed, I was wondering if BillsNation would be as pissed. And I was also wondering more about that reaction in regards to the painting of Dick Jauron's yard as opposed to yours. they should be warned about the nightly turds I leave there... If you just lived nearer to McKelvin's property than Jauron's we could have tracked these perps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted September 16, 2009 Share Posted September 16, 2009 You know what the receipe for disaster is? Collecting a NFL check and living in Hamburg. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heat89 Posted September 16, 2009 Share Posted September 16, 2009 I find this to be quite ridiculous. Not only is it completely classless, but it also paints a picture of bills fans to the rest of the leauge of a fan base of hooligans. That if you don't play well you'll pay for it. Now this is clearly one (or a few) bad apple(s) and we all know that. However players around the leauge don't know that they will just read the headlines and make thier judgement. This incident while even if it is completely isolated only furthers to hurt our changes in the FA market. Now we have bad weather, a reputation for not making the playoffs, an extreamly frugal owner, and now to top it off players are under the threat of vandalism. UNREAL. As a fan what runs through your head? How can this help change anything. Oh well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted September 16, 2009 Share Posted September 16, 2009 Actually I wasn't wondering if you'd be pissed, I was wondering if BillsNation would be as pissed. And I was also wondering more about that reaction in regards to the painting of Dick Jauron's yard as opposed to yours. If you just lived nearer to McKelvin's property than Jauron's we could have tracked these perps. Bleed over from my last post... Sorry. Anyway... I think it would be the same (reaction) on this board. This place is a tad different than the rest of BillsNation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted September 16, 2009 Share Posted September 16, 2009 Too bad there wasn't a foot of snow on the lawn, I wonder if people would be equally "pissed"... If you know what I mean! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delete This Account Posted September 16, 2009 Share Posted September 16, 2009 I appreciate the class you show by actually admitting you agree with me. The guy who did this is an idiot, and if I see someone doing that to my lawn....I scare the kid to death....but for anyone to be shocked or outraged by this is a joke. i think the time we as people become so desensitized that the instinct to muster outrage is gone, is the time to start folding tents and saying prayers. just my opinion. jw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delete This Account Posted September 16, 2009 Share Posted September 16, 2009 I am really, really hoping the obscenity on Leo's lawn wasn't a racial slur. no, it was not. jw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lori Posted September 16, 2009 Share Posted September 16, 2009 i think the time we as people become so desensitized that the instinct to muster outrage is gone, is the time to start folding tents and saying prayers. just my opinion. jw Well said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted September 16, 2009 Share Posted September 16, 2009 i think the time we as people become so desensitized that the instinct to muster outrage is gone, is the time to start folding tents and saying prayers. just my opinion. jw You just gave Dwight some much needed KoolAid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted September 16, 2009 Share Posted September 16, 2009 i think the time we as people become so desensitized that the instinct to muster outrage is gone, is the time to start folding tents and saying prayers. just my opinion. jw I totally agree. Yet, it is a two way street. Do we want to morph into what the rest of the league has become? Or do we handle our douchebage fans ourselves and still keep our unique old school passion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dwight Drane Posted September 16, 2009 Share Posted September 16, 2009 I know, I've been working at it for months but I can't quite reach it. So if somebody did it to your lawn, you'd be pissed. But it's a joke for anybody else to be pissed because it was done to somebody else's lawn? The joke is the overreaction from the media/fanbase. That is what I am taking issue with. From some of the reaction here, you would think there was a burning cross on his front lawn and his kids were being held hostage. McKelvin made a mistake.....he's a nice and talented kid and I hope he runs back 3 TDs next week. However....in the Real World before Twitter and all this other BS, this would not even be a story and you wouldn't have a clue. This stuff has gone on for ages....by Kawika having to scoop it to the world, he is only inviting more attention seekers to see if they can top this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lori Posted September 16, 2009 Share Posted September 16, 2009 "Over-reaction"? Bull. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delete This Account Posted September 16, 2009 Share Posted September 16, 2009 I totally agree. Yet, it is a two way street. Do we want to morph into what the rest of the league has become? Or do we handle our douchebage fans ourselves and still keep our unique old school passion. be yourself. do what you think's right. isn't that what makes Buffalo unique? or is it still how this town is judged by others that makes it tick? hey, just asking. jw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steely Dan Posted September 16, 2009 Share Posted September 16, 2009 The bigger question is how can we communicate to Leodis that there are THOUSANDS of Bills fans that realize it's a game and support him completely? For what it's worth the option I came up with was and email to Chris Brown asking him to convey my apologies for those real numbnuts and let the kid know that he's OK by me. Deerball actually has a good idea! Morely likely a couple of middle aged guys with fat wives who beat them down on a daily basis and kids who hate them. It was their chance to go on a beer muscle power trip. Nice job dip sh-ts, your parents would be proud. ...and their fat and psychopathic wives would thrash them within inches of their lives! So the Perp/Perps want to paint....when caught make them repaint every piece of playground equipment at public parks in Hamburg... We all just have to wait a couple of days to let this whole thing play out. Anybody dumb enough to do sh-t like this likely bragged about it to all their retarded friends. Now that the national media picked this up, you better believe resolving this will be job one for the the local police. The cops will be knocking on your door soon dumb ass....enjoy. That's the sick part. Somebody probably thinks this is funny. Lynch....hits a girl with his car and speeds off, gets arrested with contraband firearm and drugs in the carHardy...hits his girlfriend while holding his infant son, pulls out a gun while confronting his father Whitner, Parrish, Simpson, Hargrove....all arrested for various violence and alcohol induced tirades. This in the course of a little over 12 months..... But some yuppie kid who was decent enough to voice his displeasure on a renewable canvas without vulgarity is what pushes the fanbase over the edge when it comes to the image of the city and it's people. You're wrong about the vulgarity. Here's the difference as I see it. Those situations weren't perpetrated by fans. There's been A LOT of chatter about those situations with the players here and so I can reasonably assume that the fanbase is angry about all of those things. This was done by a fan to a player. Those other things were done to others in the player's personal lives and not against any fans. That doesn't make it right by a longshot but the players personal lives aren't in the control of the fans. What is in control of the fans is their civility. You have to remember these guys have a lot to worry about from strangers. That's why a lot of them have hired bodyguards for when they go out. If it were me I wouldn't be taking it lightly. This could very well have been done by someone who lost a big bet on the game and is angry. Next time it might not just be painting on the lawn. The person who did this is obviously disturbed. Are they disturbed enough to turn to physical violence? Probably not, but you or I or anyone cannot tell Leodis they definitely aren't going to take it to the next level. I appreciate the class you show by actually admitting you agree with me. The guy who did this is an idiot, and if I see someone doing that to my lawn....I scare the kid to death....but for anyone to be shocked or outraged by this is a joke. IMO, it's a joke not to care about it. I am really, really hoping the obscenity on Leo's lawn wasn't a racial slur. This situation is bad enough as it is. I was thinking the same thing. BS had a little problem with that while he was here, IIRC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lori Posted September 16, 2009 Share Posted September 16, 2009 I totally agree. Yet, it is a two way street. Do we want to morph into what the rest of the league has become? Or do we handle our douchebage fans ourselves and still keep our unique old school passion. Depends. Are fans of the rest of the league's teams painting obscenities in their players' front yards? If not, maybe I do want to be a little more like them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steely Dan Posted September 16, 2009 Share Posted September 16, 2009 i think the time we as people become so desensitized that the instinct to muster outrage is gone, is the time to start folding tents and saying prayers. just my opinion. jw +1 no, it was not. jw That's very good to hear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dwight Drane Posted September 16, 2009 Share Posted September 16, 2009 You're wrong about the vulgarity. Here's the difference as I see it. Those situations weren't perpetrated by fans. There's been A LOT of chatter about those situations with the players here and so I can reasonably assume that the fanbase is angry about all of those things. This was done by a fan to a player. Those other things were done to others in the player's personal lives and not against any fans. That doesn't make it right by a longshot but the players personal lives aren't in the control of the fans. What is in control of the fans is their civility. You have to remember these guys have a lot to worry about from strangers. That's why a lot of them have hired bodyguards for when they go out. If it were me I wouldn't be taking it lightly. This could very well have been done by someone who lost a big bet on the game and is angry. Next time it might not just be painting on the lawn. The person who did this is obviously disturbed. Are they disturbed enough to turn to physical violence? Probably not, but you or I or anyone cannot tell Leodis they definitely aren't going to take it to the next level. Do I get a candlelight vigil? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted September 16, 2009 Share Posted September 16, 2009 be yourself. do what you think's right. isn't that what makes Buffalo unique? or is it still how this town is judged by others that makes it tick? hey, just asking. jw No. I never seen it the first way, just the later way you described. Not that I was any help... I still left, I am totally part of the problem... Oh that isolated feeling Drives you up against, up against the wall 'Cos you've been on the mainland baby Been on the mainland, comin'on strong Too long in exile Too long people keep hanging on Too long in exile Too long like a rolling stone And the wheeling and the dealing All takes up too much time Check your better self baby You'd better satisfy, satisfy your mind Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steely Dan Posted September 16, 2009 Share Posted September 16, 2009 Some stupid Cardinals' fans burned pro Cardinals' stuff into Donovan McNabbs lawn with diesel fuel. The best part is the guys who did it were 37 and 28. They were probably suffering from SRHA (sperm retention headaches) Link But McNabb stopped laughing when he went outside Saturday morning, smelled diesel fuel and realized someone had burned Cardinals cheers into his lawn, causing about $2,000 in damage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebug Posted September 16, 2009 Share Posted September 16, 2009 Someone threw a beer bottle and smashed my car window a while back. I cleaned up the mess, got a new window and moved on, I'm sure he will do the same (minus the new window). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwampD Posted September 16, 2009 Share Posted September 16, 2009 Depends. Are fans of the rest of the league's teams painting obscenities in their players' front yards? If not, maybe I do want to be a little more like them. I want to be more like them, because they are probably rooting for a team with a better record. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted September 16, 2009 Share Posted September 16, 2009 Depends. Are fans of the rest of the league's teams painting obscenities in their players' front yards? If not, maybe I do want to be a little more like them. Obviously the perps are jerks. I am not saying I want this to happen... Yet I don't want to be drones and meat for media shills of the league. Like jw said... I seek uniqueness... These douchebags brought that uniqueness that can NOW be taken down two paths... I choose to spin it positvely and unlike the way the rest of the nation and league may see it. That is the way TRUE Bills fans should be spinning it. Ya, this guy(s) did something negative... I won't stand by what they did physically... But I will stand by their passion as Bills fans. And if Leodis is reading and HAS his feet firmly grounded, this is the message he will take out of it. Flame away if one must. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steely Dan Posted September 16, 2009 Share Posted September 16, 2009 Obviously the perps are jerks. I am not saying I want this to happen... Yet I don't want to be drones and meat for media shills of the league. Like jw said... I seek uniqueness... These douchebags brought that uniqueness that can NOW be taken down two paths... I choose to spin it positvely and unlike the way the rest of the nation and league may see it. That is the way TRUE Bills fans should be spinning it. Ya, this guy(s) did something negative... I won't stand by what they did physically... But I will stand by their passion as Bills fans. And if Leodis is reading and HAS his feet firmly grounded, this is the message he will take out of it. Flame away if one must. And you think that's the best way to spin this? I don't think so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lori Posted September 16, 2009 Share Posted September 16, 2009 I want to be more like them, because they are probably rooting for a team with a better record. Valid point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted September 16, 2009 Share Posted September 16, 2009 Everybody is slacking BFLO... But hear this... If the Bears lost to the Packers for 6 straight years... This town (Chicago) would come unhinged/unglue ten times worse. The streets of Lake Forest/Halas Hall would be burning remnants. Heck TWO years would be enough to do the trick... It is amazing people in BFLO have showed this much restraint for this long... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goynahan Posted September 16, 2009 Share Posted September 16, 2009 A good way to show some love is by writing on donte whitners facebook wall n ask donte to relay the msg to leodis. That and twitter. Losing is bad enough, but to make our players uncomfortable living in our city is even worse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omar Little Posted September 16, 2009 Share Posted September 16, 2009 no, it was not. jw That's a relief. Thanks, John. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted September 16, 2009 Share Posted September 16, 2009 A good way to show some love is by writing on donte whitners facebook wall n ask donte to relay the msg to leodis. That and twitter. Losing is bad enough, but to make our players uncomfortable living in our city is even worse Womb to the tomb baby! Have we lost all sense of intrinsic self-grounding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HurlyBurly51 Posted September 16, 2009 Share Posted September 16, 2009 Shameful, gutless cowards. I hope they are caught and prosecuted to the full extent of the law. Oh wait, what's that, like a $50 fine? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted September 16, 2009 Share Posted September 16, 2009 I hope they are caught and prosecuted to the full extent of the law. Oh wait, what's that, like a $50 fine? You forget, unless your last name is Kane or you are a celeb... Everything else is like Les Misérables. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glass To The Arson Posted September 16, 2009 Share Posted September 16, 2009 Does anyone know what it said? I heard it was "learn 2 kneel 25-24" or something on those lines Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ofiba Posted September 16, 2009 Share Posted September 16, 2009 Everybody is slacking BFLO... But hear this... If the Bears lost to the Packers for 6 straight years... This town (Chicago) would come unhinged/unglue ten times worse. The streets of Lake Forest/Halas Hall would be burning remnants. Heck TWO years would be enough to do the trick... It is amazing people in BFLO have showed this much restraint for this long... Have you ever made a mistake at work and come home to a vandalized front lawn because of it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted September 16, 2009 Share Posted September 16, 2009 Have you ever made a mistake at work and come home to a vandalized front lawn because of it? "Hey Eric, you didn't lock that boat fast enough! I am gonna mess up your lawn!" Words: "FEATHERBEDDER!" I guess I would learn my lesson sleeping on the job! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loyal2dagame Posted September 16, 2009 Share Posted September 16, 2009 Have you ever made a mistake at work and come home to a vandalized front lawn because of it? we'll , i got home from work today to find my front lawn (90X80) was mowed by an unknown person. didn't need to be cut yet, but if i find out who did it......... i'd buy them a case of beer! if only they did the acre in the back. true story......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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