Alphadawg7 Posted April 2, 2009 Share Posted April 2, 2009 According to this report he tested positive for some kind of drug at the combine. He previously tested positive for Marijauna in 2008, so one would assume thats a likely candidate... I remember when this happened to Sapp and he slipped in the draft because of it...so now if Raji falls to us, would we still take him? Especially considering all the other off field drama we've had? Link Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magox Posted April 2, 2009 Share Posted April 2, 2009 Yes!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stl Bills Posted April 2, 2009 Share Posted April 2, 2009 According to this report he tested positive for some kind of drug at the combine. He previously tested positive for Marijauna in 2008, so one would assume thats a likely candidate... I remember when this happened to Sapp and he slipped in the draft because of it...so now if Raji falls to us, would we still take him? Especially considering all the other off field drama we've had? Link Sweet, hope he falls......he would be a difference maker on this team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bizell Posted April 2, 2009 Share Posted April 2, 2009 buhbye possibility of #1 overall. hello.... buffalo? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsNYC Posted April 2, 2009 Share Posted April 2, 2009 Now they just have to uncover Maybin as the other one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM57 Posted April 2, 2009 Share Posted April 2, 2009 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anttaj_Hawthorne Hawthorne was expected to be a first round draft pick and have a bright National Football League (NFL) future, but a positive test for marijuana at the NFL Combine caused him to fall in the draft. He was drafted by the Oakland Raiders in the sixth round of the 2005 NFL Draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steely Dan Posted April 2, 2009 Share Posted April 2, 2009 Opinions on marijuana usage have changed since Sapp was drafted, IIRC, there was an article last year saying it was not considered a big deal anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted April 2, 2009 Share Posted April 2, 2009 According to this report he tested positive for some kind of drug at the combine. He previously tested positive for Marijauna in 2008, so one would assume thats a likely candidate... I remember when this happened to Sapp and he slipped in the draft because of it...so now if Raji falls to us, would we still take him? Especially considering all the other off field drama we've had? Link I'd take him, but there is some risk now involved. He'll likely go into the NFL's treatment program straight out the gate. That means his next positive test could get him a suspension, if there ever was a positive test. A roll of the dice, but it would be worth it in my eyes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stl Bills Posted April 2, 2009 Share Posted April 2, 2009 I just don't see him getting past Denver.....even with the Cutler situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stl Bills Posted April 2, 2009 Share Posted April 2, 2009 Opinions on marijuana usage have changed since Sapp was drafted, IIRC, there was an article last year saying it was not considered a big deal anymore. as it shouldn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuckincincy Posted April 2, 2009 Share Posted April 2, 2009 Sweet, hope he falls......he would be a difference maker on this team. Sat out '07 because he's a blockhead. Bring'em on... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Senator Posted April 2, 2009 Share Posted April 2, 2009 Sat out '07 because he's a blockhead... Perfect roommate for Peters Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steely Dan Posted April 2, 2009 Share Posted April 2, 2009 This is an article on it. "I doubt it will have any effect whatsoever," said Gailey, a former Dallas Cowboys head coach. "I think he's a great young man who probably did it one time to see what it was like and told the truth [when asked about it]. I don't think it's an issue with him." While some teams could see marijuana use as troubling, others might view the players' admissions of prior use as a sign of maturity, particularly since players are encouraged to be honest in the interviews. The difference is that Johnson admitted it in interviews. Raji probably didn't and that may cost him. If he did admit it then it might not be a big deal but the fact he tested positive shows he can't stay away from the cronik even when he knows the combine is coming up. That might be a problem for him. This one isn't easy to figure out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PushthePile Posted April 2, 2009 Share Posted April 2, 2009 as it shouldn't. I disagree. For the record I could care less if a player smokes weed or not. I do however think it says alot about somebody who can't follow the rules for a few months, knowing full well your going to be tested numerous times. By following the rules, I mean all you have to do is put the blunts away for a couple months/weeks and your fine. What kind of clueless freaking moron is going to take the chance of losing millions. Seriously, if it only costs him 3-4 spots in the draft it's worth millions. What a douche-bag. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papazoid Posted April 2, 2009 Share Posted April 2, 2009 we have yet to see the results of the test first.....if marijuana i would take him at #11 in a heartbeat.....if steroids, then absolutely not !! P.S. - nice cupholder......lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macaroni Posted April 2, 2009 Share Posted April 2, 2009 Here is a guy sooooooooooo damn stupid he can't keep clean prior to the one day that could make him millions ........ and you want him on our team???????????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SKOOBY Posted April 2, 2009 Share Posted April 2, 2009 Damaged goods, future risk. Sounds like about 2/3rd's of all NFL at some point of their careers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scribo Posted April 2, 2009 Share Posted April 2, 2009 He couldn't stay away from it for the biggest event of this life so far, and we're suppose to expect him to do so once he gets that first big payday? Too much risk. Sure, you put Sapp out there as an example, but how many others are there who let drugs ruin their very bright futures? Countless... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted April 2, 2009 Author Share Posted April 2, 2009 I disagree. For the record I could care less if a player smokes weed or not. I do however think it says alot about somebody who can't follow the rules for a few months, knowing full well your going to be tested numerous times. By following the rules, I mean all you have to do is put the blunts away for a couple months/weeks and your fine. What kind of clueless freaking moron is going to take the chance of losing millions. Seriously, if it only costs him 3-4 spots in the draft it's worth millions. What a douche-bag. Excellent points... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted April 2, 2009 Author Share Posted April 2, 2009 Here is a guy sooooooooooo damn stupid he can't keep clean prior to the one day that could make him millions ........ and you want him on our team???????????? I never said draft the guy, I asked would we? I want OL at #11 as I really think Peters gets traded as I dont see either side caving... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuckincincy Posted April 2, 2009 Share Posted April 2, 2009 He couldn't stay away from it for the biggest event of this life so far, and we're suppose to expect him to do so once he gets that first big payday? Too much risk. Sure, you put Sapp out there as an example, but how many others are there who let drugs ruin their very bright futures? Countless... Yup. Here's one that that was talked in terms of the 2nd round...DT Claude Wroten, 2006. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Claude_Wroten Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted April 2, 2009 Author Share Posted April 2, 2009 we have yet to see the results of the test first.....if marijuana i would take him at #11 in a heartbeat.....if steroids, then absolutely not !! P.S. - nice cupholder......lol Lol...thanks... Its my logo for one of my Fantasy Football Team called "Big Ole TD's" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PushthePile Posted April 2, 2009 Share Posted April 2, 2009 Excellent points... Thanks. I still want him on the Bills and I would find it in my heart to forgive him rather quickly. Until then, what a douchebag. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted April 2, 2009 Author Share Posted April 2, 2009 Thanks. I still want him on the Bills and I would find it in my heart to forgive him rather quickly. Until then, what a douchebag. HA! Ditto Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted April 2, 2009 Share Posted April 2, 2009 Well....I would take him in a heartbeat....I had a dream last night that we had a choice between Everette Brown and BJ Raji. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magox Posted April 2, 2009 Share Posted April 2, 2009 Weed? Who cares? Sure, he's a dumbazz for costing himself millions. But I'm glad he smoked it, now we have a shot at getting him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
San Jose Bills Fan Posted April 2, 2009 Share Posted April 2, 2009 Opinions on marijuana usage have changed since Sapp was drafted, IIRC, there was an article last year saying it was not considered a big deal anymore. This is true. I personally don't have a problem with it. However there's this: "According to the NFL's drug policy, a positive test for street drugs, which includes marijuana, puts a player into the initial stage of the NFL's drug program. He's then subject to random testing and subject to a fine or suspension if he tests positive again." If he has another violation he is then considered to be in stage two of intervention and he can be suspended and/or fined. So, it makes him a bit of a risk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steely Dan Posted April 2, 2009 Share Posted April 2, 2009 we have yet to see the results of the test first.....if marijuana i would take him at #11 in a heartbeat.....if steroids, then absolutely not !!P.S. - nice cupholder......lol I agree 100% because steroids may be the reason for his college production. i.e. Tony Mandarich. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted April 2, 2009 Author Share Posted April 2, 2009 Weed? Who cares? Sure, he's a dumbazz for costing himself millions. But I'm glad he smoked it, now we have a shot at getting him. Yeah, I could care less about weed, but its his judgement now in question...I mean how stupid do have to be to do this twice in back to back years (assuming its weed) and right before the combine... We are also jumping the gun, it could be some banned substance found in an over the counter supplement where he just made a careless mistake and no big deal, or it could be even worse and be some kind of illegal steroid...weed is what he got caught with in 08, so its the front runner based on history at this point... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PushthePile Posted April 2, 2009 Share Posted April 2, 2009 This is true. I personally don't have a problem with it. However there's this: "According to the NFL's drug policy, a positive test for street drugs, which includes marijuana, puts a player into the initial stage of the NFL's drug program. He's then subject to random testing and subject to a fine or suspension if he tests positive again." If he has another violation he is then considered to be in stage two of intervention and he can be suspended and/or fined. So, it makes him a bit of a risk. Great point. He is a high risk for suspension, IMO. Possibilities 1. He thinks he's above the rules and said screw it (precursor to other problems) 2. He can't resist the temptation and influence of others (stronger than his value of self preservation) 3. He's to stupid to understand the ramifications, rules, or testing schedule (very disturbing and dangerous) All of these possibilities aren't fixed when a kid gets handed millions of dollars. I'd still take him on the Bills in a heartbeat, let Russ and Dick worry about that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fingon Posted April 2, 2009 Share Posted April 2, 2009 As Mike Florio said... if you test positive for drugs at the combine you are either: A.) an idiot B.) have a real drug problem neither are good. He has had off field problems, is considered immature, and is overweight. Now you add this... he might drop pretty far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steely Dan Posted April 2, 2009 Share Posted April 2, 2009 As Mike Florio said... if you test positive for drugs at the combine you are either: A.) an idiot B.) have a real drug problem neither are good. He has had off field problems, is considered immature, and is overweight. Now you add this... he might drop pretty far. If he's there I hope the Bills pass on him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewildrabbit Posted April 2, 2009 Share Posted April 2, 2009 I disagree. For the record I could care less if a player smokes weed or not. I do however think it says alot about somebody who can't follow the rules for a few months, knowing full well your going to be tested numerous times. By following the rules, I mean all you have to do is put the blunts away for a couple months/weeks and your fine. What kind of clueless freaking moron is going to take the chance of losing millions. Seriously, if it only costs him 3-4 spots in the draft it's worth millions. What a douche-bag. Good point, and... Now,what happens after he fails 3 NFL drug tests if he is not bright or strong willed enough to stay off the weed for a few months? Just because Bruce Smith and Warren Sap can put it behind them doesn't mean that others can, The Bills were lucky Travis Henry didn't implode until after he left Buffalo. Ricky Williams- Lawrence Phillips-Quincy Carter- Natrone Means ring any bells ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill from NYC Posted April 2, 2009 Share Posted April 2, 2009 Great point. He is a high risk for suspension, IMO.Possibilities 1. He thinks he's above the rules and said screw it (precursor to other problems) 2. He can't resist the temptation and influence of others (stronger than his value of self preservation) 3. He's to stupid to understand the ramifications, rules, or testing schedule (very disturbing and dangerous) All of these possibilities aren't fixed when a kid gets handed millions of dollars. I'd still take him on the Bills in a heartbeat, let Russ and Dick worry about that. But ya see PTP, if any of your scenarios are true (especially #2), the last place this kid needs to be is on a team coached by Dick Levy, a "players coach." I can't stand Jauron as a coach. He is flat out awful, and has been for years on end, but he is a gentleman. He treats the players well, and this is a kid who might need better supervision than Jauron is capable of providing. The guy might have just cost himself 5 million on a signing bonus alone. For what, to smoke a joint? He sounds undisciplined, and Jauron has none to offer. Bad match for the Bills. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thoner7 Posted April 2, 2009 Share Posted April 2, 2009 I can recall walking the campus of St John Fisher during the training camp (I live right down the road), and seeing a pimped out all black escalade on 22's rolling across campus. A naive person would have thought there was a bon fire lit on the passenger seat, and Im willing to bet it wasnt a college student taking summer classes. Bottom line is most NFL players smoke dope, including a lot of Bills players. Gaines Adams and Calvin Johnson both tested for weed at the combine correct? They were high picks. Hopefully he slips, but he wont. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted April 2, 2009 Author Share Posted April 2, 2009 You guys are still assumng its weed...we still dont know what he tested positive for... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffaloed in Pa Posted April 2, 2009 Share Posted April 2, 2009 Good for the stoner. The only one to stick up for him here are probably stoners too. Looks like we know how he got that pear shape. Munchies and chillin. If he`s that STUPID to get nailed at the combine,then he will probably get nailed in the NFL.Fat ,dumb and lazy are no-way to go through life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lets_go_bills Posted April 2, 2009 Share Posted April 2, 2009 I'm weary of his slight tendency to break rules, albeit minor ones, but they are still rules. But when I think about seeing him playing down there next to big Marcus, it's exciting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astrobot Posted April 2, 2009 Share Posted April 2, 2009 I just don't see him getting past Denver.....even with the Cutler situation. I think GBay and Denver have other fish to fry, so here's the simulation from DraftTek: 1 Detroit Aaron Curry OLB43 Wake Forest 2 St Louis Jason Smith OT Baylor 3 Kansas City Brian Orakpo DE43 Texas 4 Seattle Michael Crabtree WRF Texas Tech 5 Cleveland Malcolm Jenkins CB Ohio State 6 Cincinnati Eugene Monroe OT Virginia 7 Oakland Everette Brown DE43 Florida State 8 Jacksonville Mark Sanchez QB USC 9 Green Bay Tyson Jackson DE34 LSU 10 San Francisco Andre Smith OT Alabama 11 Buffalo BJ Raji DT34 Boston College 12 Denver Rey Maualuga ILB USC 13 Washington Michael Oher OT Mississippi 14 New Orleans Brian Cushing OLB43 USC 15 Houston Clay Matthews OLB43 USC 16 San Diego Jeremy Maclin WRF Missouri 17 NY Jets Matthew Stafford QB Georgia 18 Chicago Hakeem Nicks WRF North Carolina 19 Tampa Bay Peria Jerry DT43 Mississippi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PushthePile Posted April 2, 2009 Share Posted April 2, 2009 But ya see PTP, if any of your scenarios are true (especially #2), the last place this kid needs to be is on a team coached by Dick Levy, a "players coach." I can't stand Jauron as a coach. He is flat out awful, and has been for years on end, but he is a gentleman. He treats the players well, and this is a kid who might need better supervision than Jauron is capable of providing. The guy might have just cost himself 5 million on a signing bonus alone. For what, to smoke a joint? He sounds undisciplined, and Jauron has none to offer. Bad match for the Bills. No I agree, he might be a bad fit with us. It's too bad. I'm curious to see what he popped for. It's probably marijuana and he'll get drafted before us anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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